Dan
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Buyer beware. These are expensive products but the durability of them in upstate NY is poor. I wore the chugach nx rain pant once and light briars ripped holes in them. KUIU told me to it was wear and tear and to buy a patch for them. I have the rain jacket too and that has been good but the pants are very poor durability.
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don't buy KUIU pants especially chugach nx rain pant. first time wearing them and light briars ripped holes in them. very poor durability in NY state brush. service was poor too