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Welcome and good luck.
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Its been awhile I have been busy.Sorry for leaving you guys
hanging.I wasn't crying about the money the conversation
was simply about learning to do it yourself.I learned because
I simply couldn't afford to have my trophys done elsewhere.If
I hit a taxidermists nerve's I apologize atleast I am man enough
to do that.Lets see if I get any lol.By the way heres a couple of pics.
I guess its true anywhaere you go someones looking to dog you.
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I have seen deer hunch up and buck up in both
cases I feel its a matter of the animal.I have also seen
deer drop as low as possible to the ground with a heart
and double lung hit.I have seen deer drop and just lay
down on a gut shot I really feel it depends on the animal.
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I caught some guys stealing tree stands by putting the
trail cam in the ground that worked for me.I think your
gonna find its a nieghbor or someone who knows the area
and what to look for.Anyway it sucks I hope you nail'em
good luck.
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I have a rule I use forget all that bait crap I have perrenial
food plots for yr round use then in the fall I plant annuals
good for drawing in your game later in the yr.usually winter
oats,brassalias,and yes planting soybeans later will bring
great hunting plot in late oct and nov.I also plant a annual
called no plow by whitetail institute in early nov what a fall
hunting plot it produces.
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Ya go with a tractor its many uses and attachments make it
the most veritile thing to own.
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You only have 4 acres its still enough to be productive
if you wanna hunt it.nows a good time to scout it.Check
for deer or bear sign.talk to the farmers around your
property.most of all take some time to sit out there and enjoy
what you work so hard for.
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I just looked over the farm that I am supposed to work on
next yr.Its an old horse farm lots of open land out front.A
small creek right behind the paddocks then 2 open small
fields about 7 to 10 acres then a huge hill in the middle.
I found a cedar grove on one end a secluded over grown
field in the back and a big stone wall built right through the
middle of it.I recomended to the owner the food plot the back field
and the smaller field in front.the creek has several natural stand
setup points as well as the stone wall.on the northwest edge is a swamp
complete with a huge bedding area a great sanctuary spot.I told him with
240 acres its a great piece of property.I told him with about $300 to $400
in food plot seed and some fertilizer he has a great setup and theres room
for about 30 stand sites or more.I told him the swamp and thicket is shared
another piece of property privately owned and the landowner has over 300 acres
none of which I believe he allows to be hunted.I did see posted signs.This is
a great piece of land if he does the right things.I think a yr of shooting only
doe's trail camming and posting the property will be the best way to evaluate
this property.I did not see any new or manufactured stands on it.its secluded
and was owned previously by a very anti hunting family.The scrapes and rubs
tell me its already home to some nice bucks.I have already been invited onto
it but will wait atleast til next season.The biggest thing is this is in the 3m unit.
which allows you to have up to 4 doe permits per person.I will set up a full plan
over the winter the land owner is pumped and seems willing to do what ever it
takes to build a great hunting property.There still is some great land around here.
prices are dropping and theres some good opportunities to pick up land.I
really feel I can help alot of land owners/hunters. with me experience and I am
really be reconized as an innovator in my area.
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Ya alot of great suggestions 270 or 30-06 are great reach out rifles
not bad on recoil prices are fair and the bullets are still middle of the
road price wise.
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I recently happened to be asked by way of( word
of mouth) by 2 land owners to next spring come
in and set up thier respective properties.The white-
tail is an obsession with me 365/24/7 a year.I have
over the last 7 yrs set up about 6 properties all of
which the land owner/leasie are thrillled with the results.
I started out in 92 after getting permission to post/hunt
a 138 acre piece of property which buts up to my and
my dads 12 acres.I wanted it to be the best place to hunt.
Its become just that I cleared only about 12 acres for plots
thinned the oak groves for better acorn production.Set up
sanctuaries.I put in a small deep pond.I even put in a small
apple/pear grove this spring I am set to clear another 2 acre
area for soybeans and whitetail institutes power plant.
I have not charged anyone for my services because of
my love for being out there giving something of importance
that I feel the need to do back to the great outdoors and others
who really want to enjoy it.I feel the bigger the land the better
the results but I set up a 10 acre parcell 2 yrs ago and the guy
leasing it has taken 2 nice bucks off it with bow the last 2 yrs.
I was wondering would it be wrong to start charging for my services
or should I keep just doing it as a goodwull gesture to help
others have the greatest experience possible too.
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God rest his soul not sure what to say.I think for 84
if he was still that active god bless him.It's still a really
terrible accident.Safty is so very important accident's
can happen at any time its just so unfortunate that he
hunted all his life and died that way.My prayers go out
to his family.I hope some one somewhere doin the heater
in the stand setup takes notice and refects back on this
before lighting ther heater.
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Hello and welcome good luck and be safe.I think you'll
really like this forum lots of great people on here and a
great soource of info.
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Ya the does are eating heavy but the bucks keep running in and
scattering them.I probably am not helping by driving them nuts with
the doe in heat and also this yr I am using code blues grave digger.
I made a mock scrape and the next morning(friday) there was 4 more
scrapes under the same tree.I have made 2 mock scapes using the
grave digger and touched them up with tinks buck urine and crossed
my stand areas up with doe in heat(golden estrus) and its driving the
bucks crazy but I only hunt the same stand every other day either all
day or in the morning or afternoon I have 8 stands in a 10 acre area
running a oak ridge above a swamp and bedding area.
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Every buck in the county is scraping now I have seen 9 different
bucks making about 30 scrapes in the last 3 days but nothing I
want to shoot now.I will hold out til the big boy comes in.I read
an artical that the peak of the rut will fall somewhere between the
11th to the 17th now is the time to put more time in the woods including
sitting all day.I had a nice 7 pt come into doe in heat this morning.
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I agree milkweed pods or collect dandiloins when they turn
into seed carriers. Both tell you where your scent goes as
far as distance.I use both which ever is more available.Just
remember to use a good cover scent tinks vanish,dead down
wind and scent killer all work good.I use scent killer under my hunting
siut and dead down wind or tinks vanish over my hunting siut.I never
have any issues I have literalially reached out and touched deer on the ground.
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The problem with butchers is that they are assembly line processers.
Iknow of several who cut deer up in lots of 10 to 20 at a time assembly
line type chances are you dont even get your own deer.Another thing
if you pay more than $80 its to much guys charging 100,110,120 then
charging $5,$6$7 for a pd of sausge or a pak of jerky its crazy I make
plenty of money charging $70 for a custom cut one deer at a time my
sausages are $3 per pd jerky is$3 per pak brats are $3 per pd and I
make corned venison for $10.There is one thing you do lose alot of
weight on a deer simply because they are big boned,and most deer
when harvested are young haven't had a chance to fill out yet.Honesty
thats just the way it is but I get more meat back then the bigger processers
simply because I do one deer at a time and dont hurry the deer down the line to
the next person on line.
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I dont lease but know a few people who do.If you truly want
to lease land do your research on the property surounding
lands.check with and check out surrounding land owners.be
sure of what you want to do with the land some land owners
won't allow you to alter the land(food plot,orchards,ponds etc).
Watch leasing land that buts up to state land.alot of times if
its not beeb leased or controlled its hard to get the people
using the state land to stay off your leased land.I have a by luck
setup in the late 80s I approached a land owner because of his
over hunting and unsafe land.to my surprise he game me sole
access to ploice patrol and hunt the land.I added 3 adjacent
properties afterward.The biggest reward is I am allowed to alter the
lands how ever I want.I have multiple foodplots,put in a pond,added
a small apple and pear orchard.trimmed hardwoods(oaks) better acorn
production.So be specific when leasing land know what you want and
be sure the owner knows and allows it.
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bucks do break racks off fighting but its not as common
as damage to the racks when they are in velvet and the
other common reason is that the antlers are made of calcium
minerals if in a given area certain minerals are lacking it
does make for a weaker antler base as far as what is needed
to make the antlers stronger.I dont know if anyone hunts around
dairy or horse farms but if the farmer put out minerals blocks think
back and I bet there were less broken antlered deer around.
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I think this is a personal preferance thing myself.I usaully look to see
if the fawn or fawns are button bucks and how healthy they seem.I will
take a doe with one fawn because the fawn is usaully healthier then
a doe with 2.One other thing to keep in mind a doe that has 2 fawns
a yr is a prime breeder and will usaully have 2 bucks every other yr.A
doe always will rejoin her fawns after being bred so I am alittle more
selective when taking doe's I mignt even take the fawn if its a doe and
is the only one.my real preferance is to take a yearling doe.
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Ya ny hunter's right qiuckly,watch your scent and when deer are least likely to be active.
Also do it be fore a rain it will help wash away your scent.
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Correct regulations I believe are sun rise which means to me I can see the sun.
To sun set which means again to me that the sun has set beyond my sight.I really
don't think it means lightt to dark.I have read lots of accident reports and when the
low light issue comes up to me no body should for any reason discharge their fire-
arm.Its not a matter of I thought or it looked like.Actually this is the time of the day
that scares the hell out of me in the woods even if I have a light.I read an srtical
one time where a guy shot another guy cause he thought the light was the white
flag of a deer.Alot of these type accidents always make think if theres more to the
story thats being told.There was an accident in the 80s or 90s near middletown
where a guy shot and killed another hunter in low light.After investigating the circum-
stances the police found oout that the 2 men had be feuding for over 2yrs over the
hunting spot.
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Just posted my location I think its a good thing.
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She looks healthy to me.I shot one once as a mercy harvest
he was hurting.But she looks healthy does she have fawns
that you know of.Its truly amazing what these animals can
adapt to I shot a doe once that had about 3 inches of arrow
shaft that had grown into her front shoulder.I didn't see any
sign of it when I was watching her before I harvested her.
It wasn't til I started processing her that I found it she showed
no signs of being hurt or handycapped.It had actually healed
around the arrow shaft.
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To touch on W.I. products again yes I use atleast one annual
every yr this yr I planted no plow and winter greens the hurricane
and tropical storm slowed them down but the came back.I will say this
the W.I. double cross this yr was their first choice over even the clover
and corn.
Frustrated with bow hunters
in Bow Hunting
Posted · Edited by hb270deermanager
We all have a responsibiltiy to try and havest wild game
(deer) as quickly and humanly as possible.Truth is it
doesn't always work that way.Ya everyone's entitled to
their views.But here's something for you to think about.
More deer are killed or mamned every yr by being hit
by auto's or natural accidents(yes this actually happens to)
then hunter's wounding them in a given yr.I won't bash anyone
on here but I would ask for anyone posting about a sensitive post
to please take the time to think about what your saying and who
or what it's about.I have been bow hunting for over 20 yrs now and
yes I have lost 1or 2 over the yrs it happens.As long as humans are
on god green earth human error will occur we just hope it doesn't
happen to often.