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Well now that this is out forget about AR's. lol

Wow, some serious pointers-thanks a whole bunch of zucchini! BTW any of you fry the Zucchini flowers? My Italian MIL does they are great!

I can understand you feeling this way. It's a shame he ended up handicapped but there are a lot of people out there in the same situation. I think it's a good thing he still practices what he loves. Bear hunting is pretty much done like that wether your handicapped or not. Dog chases bear, bear climbs tree and hunter shoots bear. I really have no use for this type of hunting but some do, to each his own.

I'm going to give it a try next year. I eat a ton of veggies so why not. Maybe some pointers when I'm ready?

Hey-I swore I had that yesterday in NYC. We ordered Vietmanese food!!! I have had it before and is very good!!!! (not the yote) My neighbor tells me years ago he heard of guys putting out treble hooks with meat on it. You hang these from trees on piano wire just high enough for them to jump and...............forgot the rest of the story?

One other predator is the common house cat. On LI its a big problem. These things kill just for killing.

With all the talk about this tag and that tag, how many deer does your family consume per year? My brother and I shot three deer last year all were good size. We are about 2/3 the way through the venison. It will be finished off by November. My family consists of 2 children and 1 adult. He has 4 adults. I think 3 is the limit for us.

I hope this is not the case and the DEC along with hunters can keep them under control. Could you imagine having your hunt ruined or your food plot that you worked on all summer eaten one night by a bunch of pigs!

I use ladder stands. We have about 6 of them on 54 acres. We also have two Gorilla hang-on stands that still get put up. They go in trees that you can climb. The days of screw in steps are over. This week we are at camp so I'll start to inspect all the stands and get them in good shape.

Well there you have it, take a kid out without their cell phone and teach them to love the sport no matter if you bag something or not. Simple as that!!

I also feel that not getting kids involved is a huge mistake. I have two girls who want to give it a shot. They both will be offered a chance to hunt with me. I have mentored other kids coming up through the ranks and it was well worth it. I am so looking forward to the proposed youth season. If you have never taken a kid out give it a shot, you won't be disappointed! getting kids involved will help enormously, we all head off to our happy hunting grounds some day-need to pass it on!

Looked that way, they took away that dirt to get the blocks in and that is where the pipes run for the footer drain. I actually talked to the guy doing it yesterday. They will have the floor done on Friday and do some back-filling. Then it will sit until mid Sept. Should be done by Bow season. No rush on my end, I'll do the finish work over the winter. They took the extra dirt/clay and started to build up an area across from the cabin for a barn I want to put up,that will be in a couple of years. I'm up there all next week on vacation and will take some picts. Thanks

I know one thing for sure, there will be lawsuit after lawsuit pointed in every direction when NY gives the go ahead. The lawyers will be the big winners in NY!!!lol Here is a letter to the town of Dryden from a landowner coalition. DSEC letter to Dryden Town Board: policy considerations and a legal warning Dryden Safe Energy Coalition (DSEC) c/o Henry S. Kramer [email protected] August 1, 2011 Dryden Town Supervisor Members, Town Board By E-Mail and hand delivery to Town Clerk As it appears that the Dryden Town Board will be voting on a complete energy development ban on August 2, 2011, this to present DSEC’s position, to amplify Henry Kramer’s prior statement, and to put the Board on formal notice that if it passes a total energy development ban it will be engaging in knowing prospective violations of constitutional rights, federal, and state law. If the Board enacts the proposed ordinance it may subject the Town not only to litigation costs but also to potentially hundreds of millions of dollars of taking liability, which would ultimately have to be borne by the taxpayers. The Board should not take lightly the risk of such potential liability. Whether or not the Board believes it may somehow legally prevail, the Board should weigh the cost to benefit ratio of adopting this ban. Even assuming, for argument only, that the possibility of success were 50-50, can the Board risk the chance of a nine figure liability? Not reasonably. First, the ban would violate the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments of the United States Constitution and constitute a taking requiring just compensation. The ban entirely confiscates mineral rights to an estimated value of $175 million (valuations may vary, but the significance of the sum involved remains), not including the additional value of royalty rights also likely in the many millions and the costs of litigation. Alternatively, the Board’s action may be viewed as a 100% confiscatory tax on wealth in mineral rights, a tax outside the Board’s powers, not authorized by and preempted by state law. Board members have fiduciary responsibilities. Given the magnitude of potential damages and the outsized legal risks, it is simply not fiscally prudent behavior to adopt this ban. Second, the ban would be in violation of the state’s preemption of the regulation of drilling. In the May Dryden newsletter, the Town Supervisor so acknowledged. Legal authorities give ban ordinances little chance of surviving court challenge. The wiser course, when faced with legal doubt, is not to act. Third, the ban as a zoning ordinance is in violation of many of the holdings of the New York Court of Appeals in the Udell zoning case, a copy of which was previously supplied the Board. Read the case and it should guide the Board. Fourth, the ban is ultra vires, that is outside the authority of a town board. There is no authorization in state law for the Town to enact a complete ban, on the contrary Town action is preempted. An Article 78 proceeding may follow. Fifth, a Town may not, by local ordinance, nullify, or make entirely nugatory, state created and recognized mineral rights and general laws. To do so would, in effect, nullify state law and state created rights within Dryden. If towns could do this, they could pick and choose which state laws would apply. Sixth, section 5 of the proposed ban which would have the Dryden ban trump state and federal permits and actions, as a matter of black letter law, is invalid. It is reasonable to conclude that the Town Board will be knowingly attempting to override and destroy constitutional, federal, and state rights. Seventh, the ban is discriminatory. It shifts the entire alleged environmental protection costs onto land and mineral rights holders instead of the general population. This is not an incidental shift but an overwhelming burden, extinguishing millions of dollars of thousands of individuals’ property rights. If such an action is taken, it must be a general charge on the population of the Town. The survey on which our comprehensive plan is built calls for compensation for takings. Further, such compensation was provided when the Town bought development rights, recognition of the injustice of unpaid taking. Eighth, adoption of this ban would cloud the land titles of thousands of Dryden residents who have signed leases on 41% of Dryden land. A ban is a classic force event and may prevent these leases from ever expiring. A ban could thus condemn many Dryden residents to land sale and mortgage difficulties for years to come, a harsh and selective punishment. Ninth, the Town may not be insured for any act it takes which it knows, or reasonably should know, is illegal. The Town is notified it will be in violation of constitutional and legal rights if it enacts the ban. Tenth, if Town Board members, having notice, violate constitutional and legal rights, they may lose their qualified immunity and be subject to suit in their personal (possibly uninsured) capacities. In conclusion, the Town should affirmatively anticipate that federal and/or state court action against it is highly probably, if not virtually certain, on one or more of the above cited or other claims. You cannot extinguish hundreds of millions of dollars of property values held by thousands of residents and separate mineral rights held by both in and out of state people without anticipating legal actions. The energy industry has its own causes of action and may also sue. It is highly probable that this overly broad ban, as written, will have unforeseen or unintended consequences. For similar reason, the County Legislature deferred action on a road law. The more sensible alternative and responsible fiduciary response is to defer any action on a ban until ban challenges elsewhere are litigated. Certainly, the State is far from ready to begin permitting wells, so there is no need for haste. You have at a minimum into 2012, if not longer. The Town should take notice that a ban is inconsistent with environmental advocates’ position favoring the development of natural gas under the Kyoto protocols. It is also inconsistent for the Town and individuals to use energy from elsewhere while refusing to allow its regulated development locally. And, failure to develop domestic energy means foreign energy dependence, foreign wars to protect vital energy interests, and the sapping of revenues the government could use to pay debt and provide programs. DSEC’s mission is to offer balanced, data driven information on safe energy development, to logically and numerically evaluate benefit-to-risk ratios, free of emotional bias or ideology, and to bring together people interested in an analytical approach to energy issues. A ban does not serve to meet this mission. It does not allow for a “middle way” in which there is lawful, safe, regulated energy development. Legally, we believe a total ban is an unnecessary high risk strategy for the Town and which in its uncompensated takings is unjust. The Board is now on notice. It is DSEC’s hope the Board will do the prudent thing and recognize there is both division of opinion in Dryden and significant large scale dollar risk. Both drilling without regulation and refusal to drill are equally extreme solutions. We oppose both. Please opt for deliberate moderation and do not adopt in haste this radical total ban. Sincerely yours, Dryden Safe Energy Coalition By Henry S. Kramer, Tracy Marisa

What would you consider small game, that you actually hunt? When I did hunt small game rabbits and grouse were my target. Could care less about squirrels and you have to stock pheasant. Rabbits are so plentiful right now and I have seen many grouse. I'm in 8P and things are pretty good.

It's about two weeks this is where we are. I think the foundation sits for 3 weeks and they will be back end of August to finish the structure.

I run everyday. If I stop running for a few days I start to get aches and pains, go figure.

I agree Doc, well put!

Funny you say that, the last catalog from Cabelas had crossbows and no compound bows featured. Thought it was odd but they do put out a bow catalog.

Thanks!

This is true and accidents are a small percentage but when they happen it's catastrophic. Think of the gulf spill. If it plays out there will be many more wells drilled in the Southern tier than we have ever seen. I'm still on the fence about this.

I have one food plot that is ready to go but I haven't got a clue what I want to put in there. Suggestions????? It's on a travel rout leading to a big clover field.

Years ago I video taped all my hunts. I actually made a 2hr feature film from all of it. It took hours of work but was worth it. Probably the last 8 years I haven't taken the camera in the woods. Partly because it's tough filming a by yourself but things have changed and I'm looking to be a bit more stealth out there. lol The real reason I will go back to filming this year is my Father inlaw who has hunted with me for the last 25 years was just admitted to a nursing home. He had a stroke at the age of 50, it slowed him down but we were able to get him out in the field every year. This will be the first that he isn't with me on the 6 hr drive up, he would tell the same stories over and over again about hunting Indian lake with his brothers. We laughed the whole way. I'm thinking I'll bring the hunt to him. I'll get a recorder that mounts on the bow and take it from there. It will be nice to show him.

Hey, did anyone read the story in ODN about the conviction of the guy who shot a hunter in PA? The story is nuts, the shooter was an convicted felon/lawyer who tried to do this huge cover up. There are some scary characters out there, be careful when confronting them. Check out the story if you can.

Don't want to be an alarmist (said it 23 times) but even the deer are holding their summer coats into November!

The chemicals are used to reduce friction, kill algae and break down mineral deposits in the well. Various well services firms make different proprietary blends of the solutions and supply them to the drilling companies, which blend them with water at the well site before pumping them underground. In recent years, some makers of the solutions have sought to replace toxic ingredients with “green” or food-based additives. For instance, Range Resources Corp., one of the most active drilling companies in Pennsylvania, is close to rolling out a 100 percent biodegradable friction reducer, spokesman Matt Pitzarella said Monday. Wouldn't that be nice. ;D