mike103

I’ll throw in a little brag picture. This is mine from last year with the Xbow.

No not an injury. I’m right handed but shoot left handed because of a left dominate eye. I tried a left handed bow many, many years ago before mechanical releases and my shooting was not proficient enough to hunt. But with the new technology I’m hoping I can overcome it. Being retired I have more time to practice and pick out the right bow. I don’t know about others but in our area of 4P and 4R more people are hunting and using bow, Xbow, and BP to hunt with. I think the antler restrictions have a lot to do with it. My group that have been hunting together for 47 years we’re all gun at one time have taken up the muzzleloader, Xbow and compound as of late. Not all. Some do one and not the other. But all methods are represented in our group. Which is all a good thing. And the fact that we have four under 40 year old hunters is great. And we are about to add a youngster. Someone has to drag for us old guys.

I did not have him on my trail cam but I did see him in person several times including in velvet. Well the neighbor took him with the bow this week. Here he is. I’m not upset. I took a 10 last year during Xbow that he had on camera. That’s how this game goes. But next year by hook or crook I will find a compound I can shoot and get out October 1st. Or hopefully the Xbow will be legal for the entire archery season.

I leave mine up all year. Lasted 6 years. This year it has to be replaced. I have a new one all set to go.

Bird hunting yes. Deer hunting when moving I wear a orange camo hat. In my blind no but I have orange on my blind. Years ago when the Catskills was a war zone on opening day I glowed with orange to to bottom.

I “heard” the same thing. That the size and draw weight were picked by the NYS Bowhunters so that Xbows would not have an advantage over compound bows. I have a Tenpoint Titan Extreme. NYS compliant. I have harvested two bucks with it. I missed a doe the first year but my fault not the bow. I do not need a new bow. It pisses me off to no end that we Have these restrictions. I’d like to upgrade my equipment from time to time and it should be my choice what kind of bow I buy not the NYS Bowhunters Association. F..king NYS. We have compliant AR’s and handguns. And now compliant Xbows.

Can’t shoot them from the couch. If you get bored walk. If you get tired sit. Carry extra shells because you never know what might happen. PB&J tastes awful good in the woods.

Failed?! My camp has grown and those of us who remember love the new Saturday opening and the extra weekend it brings.

“Unfortunatetly also, all...and I am saying ALL xbow hunters I know do not put the practice in with thier bows to shoot proficiently and are very prone to shooting irresponsibly due to the "rifle like accuracy and trajectory" of the xbow. They suck with them. of course there are plenty of responsible shooters out there, but it seems many of them use it strictly as a crutch, and a poor one at that.” Well I have the exact opposite experience. My camp went to Xbows when they were allowed and love shooting them and staying proficient. First one was a little six at 50 yards in 2016 and the second was a ten last year at 20 yards. I practice hard and hunt hard for those two deer.

According to his own profile he hunts with a 30-06 and a compound bow......traditional bow hunter my........

As others said the 28 gauge has been kept alive because of registered skeet. Registered skeet has four guns, 12,20,28 and 410 plus doubles. You can shoot a smaller gauge in a larger gauge event. Because of this most people don’t shoot the 12 gauge anymore. I started shooting quail in Florida four years ago and I can’t see much difference between the 20 and 28 gauge. Just the price of the shells. But there is a cool factor in using the 28 gauge.

If copper bullets are inaccurate than why are so many people using TSX ammo? Real question because DEP has hinted that they are going lead free on their land and my crew was planning to begin switching next year. Thanks in advance

Switch to copper ammo. They even make copper 22’s.

I have no personal experience but the reports on the web are not good. There are still SBE2’s out there. If not the Beretta A400 Extreme is a good choice. I have two of them.

DEC officers are Police Officers in the state of New York. They are bound by the constitution like any other Police Officer. They use the exigent circumstances exception to preform many of the acts that people think are beyond the scope of any other police office and the 4th amendment. For example they search your cooler for illegal game without first obtaining a search warrant. The courts allow this because coolers are easy to move to another location and fish and meat are easily disposed of. In the case of trespassing on private property again they use the same exception when responding to calls of gunfire that is illegal, illegally shot or captured game and baiting because if they fail to act the suspect will flee and or evidence will be destroyed.

No we are watching the downfall of socialism and the Democratic Party. We will be fine.

Look at Mossberg MVP rifles.

Magazine limits are for semi autos only.

See current hunting seasons Discharge of Firearms, Crossbows and Bows For information on where various legal implements may be used in the state, see Rifle, Shotgun, Crossbow and Bow Areas. It is illegal to discharge a firearm, bow or crossbow: so that the load or arrow passes over any part of a public highway, within 500 feet (for a firearm), 250 feet (for a crossbow) or 150 feet (for a bow) of any school, playground, or an occupied factory or church, within 500 feet (for a firearm), 250 feet (for a crossbow) or 150 feet (for a bow) of adwelling, farm building or structure in occupation or use unless you own it, lease it, are an immediate member of the family, an employee, or have the owner's consent. You may hunt waterfowl with a firearm or bow, over water, within 500 feet of a dwelling or public structure as long as neither are within 500 feet (for a firearm) or 150 feet (for a bow) in the direction you are shooting. You may not hunt waterfowl with a crossbow. Manner of Taking It is illegal to take or hunt wildlife: while in or on a motor vehicle (except by the holder of a Non Ambulatory Hunter Permit). with the aid of a vehicle's lights. on or from any public road or shoulder. with any firearm equipped with a silencer. with any firearm which continues to fire as long as the trigger is held back (an automatic firearm). with a spear or spear gun. with a bow equipped with any mechanical device which is attached to the bow (other than the bowstring) for drawing, holding or releasing the bowstring, except for a hunter with a disability who is in possession of a Modified Longbow Authorization (or valid Modified Archery Permit). with a modified crossbow except for a hunter with a disability who is in possession of a Modified Crossbow Permit. with an arrow with an explosive head or shaft. with any device designed or intended to deliver drugs to an animal. with any semi-automatic firearm with a capacity to hold more than 6 rounds, EXCEPT the following semi-automatic firearms: firearms using .22 or .17 caliber rimfire ammunition, or firearms altered to reduce their capacity to no more than 6 shells at one time in the magazine and chamber combined, or autoloading pistols with a barrel length of less than eight inches. with a crossbow if you are under the age of 14 years old. Back Tags Back tags must be visibly displayed on the middle of your back while hunting, except in the Northern Zone and Catskill Park. Attractants Baiting It is illegal to hunt with the aid of bait, or over any baited area when hunting big game, upland game birds, turkey or waterfowl. It is illegal to place a salt block or mineral lick on lands inhabited by deer at any time of year. It is also illegal to feed deer. Some attractants that are marketed for deer are liquids or dissolving powders which deer may not directly consume, but the attractants may entice deer to feed on the material which absorbed the attractant. These types of products would not be legal. Lures You may use cover scents and lures for deer hunting. However, hunters should use synthetic products, as natural deer urine products could contain CWD prions. While bear hunting, you may use up to 1.5 fluid ounces of a liquid scent/lure. Decoys Decoys are legal to use for deer hunting in NY. You should exercise caution when transporting a deer decoy to and from the locations in the field. Some hunters wrap a strip of blaze orange material around the decoy when carrying it. Electronic Calls Electronic calls are legal to use for deer hunting and furbearer hunting in NY. You may not use an electronic call for turkeys, ducks, or geese. Artificial Lights It is illegal to hunt deer or bear with the aid of any artificial light including laser sights. A small flashlight utilized to navigate to and from your hunting location is permitted as long as you are not using the light to locate or hunt any big game. Spotlighting You may use lights to observe deer and bear under the following conditions: You are not within 500 feet of a home or farm building, unless you have permission from the owner or lessee. While in or on a motor vehicle and operating a light and no person has a firearm or bow unless: the firearm is taken down or the bow is unstrung, or the firearm is securely fastened in a case, or the firearm is locked in the trunk of the vehicle, or the firearm is a handgun. For information on hunting furbearers at night, see the Small Game and Furbearer Regulations. Possession of Firearms and Crossbows During the open season for deer, it is illegal to: possess shotgun shells loaded with slug or ball, unless holding a valid license or permit to take deer or bear, or possess a rifle larger than a .22 rimfire (muzzleloading rifles excepted) in areas where rifles are banned for taking deer. In Westchester County and on Long Islandit is illegal to use any rifle or crossbow for hunting, or to carry one afield. In the Northern Zone it is illegal to carry a rifle larger than .22 rimfire or a shotgun loaded with slug, ball or buckshot afield if accompanied by a dog, except when coyote hunting under permit from the local Environmental Conservation Officer. Possession of handguns in New York State requires a NYS Pistol Permit. New York does not recognize permits issued by other states. Transportation of Firearms A person may not transport or possess a shotgun, rifle or crossbow in or on a motor vehicle unless the firearm is unloaded in both chamber and magazine or the crossbow is unloaded or taken down. A loaded firearm may be carried or possessed in a motorboat while legally hunting migratory game birds. A muzzleloader is considered unloaded when the cap is off the nipple, the primer is removed, the primer powder is removed from the flintlock pan, or the battery is not in an electric-fired muzzleloader. A crossbow is considered unloaded when it is uncocked. A crossbow is considered taken down when the limbs have been removed from the stock, securely fastened in a case, or locked in a trunk. Importing Firearms for Hunting To bring a rifle or shotgun into New York to hunt, U.S. Customs requires that all nonimmigrant aliens: Possess a hunting license before entering New York State. Have an approved Form 6 Import Permit from the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (BATF). Print and complete a Form 6 Import Permit Application (link leaves DEC website). Apply early! Six to 12 weeks are needed to get this permit. For more information: Visit the U.S. BATF import regulations website (link leaves DEC website) - or - Call the U.S. BATF at 304-616-4550 Accompanying A licensed hunter may bring an unlicensed individual (including children) along, as long as the accompanying individuals are not participating in the big game hunt (including driving deer). Young children who are underage for deer hunting yet possess a hunting license are permitted to accompany a deer hunter and actively hunt small game. A licensed hunter who has filled all their tags may continue to participate in the hunt, including driving of deer, but may not attempt to shoot a deer. Definitions Air gun - a firearm that uses spring or compressed air (not gunpowder) to propel a single projectile that is .17 caliber or larger and produces a muzzle velocity of at least 600 feet per second. Smooth or rifled bore air guns are allowed. Bow - includes long (stick), compound, or recurve bow. Crossbow - consists of a bow, a string, and either compound or recurve limbs with minimum width of 17 inches (outer tip of limbs excluding wheels and cams, uncocked), mounted on a stock. The stock that holds the string and limbs under tension until released. It shall have a minimum overall length from butt of stock to the front of the limbs of 24 inches and be able to launch a minimum 14 inch arrow/bolt, not including the legal arrowhead. It shall have a draw weight of 100 to 200 pounds. Dwelling houses -- a permanent place where people live and sleep. Excluded are temporary residential units including camping trailers, motor homes or other portable shelters. Also excluded are abandoned dwellings, detached garages, tree houses, "playscapes", decks, pool areas, storage sheds and out-buildings - even when/if they are temporarily occupied. A permanent camp or cabin may qualify as a "dwelling house". Factory or church -- A factory is interpreted to mean any building or structure used for commercial purposes. The discharge of a firearm or longbow within 500 feet of a factory or church is prohibited only when such building is occupied at the time of discharge. Farm building, farm structure that is either occupied or used -- these structures are largely determined on a case-by-case basis. To qualify, the premises alleged to be a farm must be utilized principally for agricultural production for commercial purposes, including but not limited to crops, fruit, hay, livestock, production of dairy products, nurseries/greenhouses. There is no minimum number of acres that must be either owned or farmed to qualify. To receive protection the farm building or farm structure must be either occupied by people or livestock or used in some, even small, degree for storage of farm related tools, equipment or livestock. Excluded would be structures and out-buildings on acreage or lands that are not a "farm" even if they are temporarily occupied. Furbearer - Coyote, red and gray fox, bobcat, raccoon, skunk, mink, weasel and opossum. Handgun - is any pistol or revolver intended to be aimed and fired with one hand, and having a barrel length not exceeding 16 inches. To hunt - means to pursue, shoot, kill or capture (other than trap) wildlife and includes all lesser acts that disturb or worry wildlife whether or not they result in taking. Hunting also includes all acts to assist another person in taking wildlife. Motor vehicle - means every vehicle or device operated by any power other than muscle power including but not limited to automobiles, trucks, motorcycles, tractors, trailers, motorboats, snowmobiles and all-terrain vehicles whether operated on or off public highways. Muzzleloading Firearm - is a firearm loaded through the muzzle, shooting a single projectile and having a minimum bore of .44 inch. Public Highway - means any road maintained by a state, county or town. A private road is one maintained by a person or corporation. Rifle - is a firearm with a barrel length of at least 16 inches with rifling in the barrel that uses metallic cartridges. School building, school playground -- a school building is any building owned by a school district. A school playground is interpreted to mean any area that is maintained by the school including mowed lawns and fields, athletic fields, playgrounds, and/or other areas where students engage in school sponsored activities. Excluded are school parking lots. A maintenance building or bus garage owned by a school district is not a "school building" but would be a "factory" as discussed below. Shotgun - is a firearm with a barrel length of at least 18 inches that uses shells that are nonmetallic except for the base. Small Game - Upland and migratory game birds, small game mammals (red squirrel, rabbit, hare, porcupine and woodchuck) and certain frogs and turtles. To take - means to pursue, shoot, hunt, kill, capture, trap, snare or net wildlife and game-and all lesser acts that disturb or worry wildlife-or to place or use any net or other device commonly used to take wildlife. To trap - means to take, kill or capture wildlife with traps, deadfalls and other devices commonly used to take wildlife, including the shooting or killing of lawfully trapped animals. It also includes all related activities such as placing, setting, staking or checking traps or assisting another person with these activities. More about Hunting Regulations: Recent Hunting Rules Changes - This is a summary of recent significant changes that affect hunting in New York. Check the guide for other minor changes such as season dates. Wildlife Management Units - A key to wildlife management units in New York State, providing links to boundary descriptions of each Crossbow Hunting - As of April 1, 2014, a new crossbow law is in effect. The DEC is currently working to develop regulations that will implement this new law. Details coming soon. Avoiding Conflicts Between Hunters and Property Owners - Tips for avoiding conflict between hunters and property owners. Public Input on Hunting Regulations - This page describes ideas being considered for potential hunting related rule changes and invites feedback from the public. Hunting Regulations Recent Hunting Rules Changes Wildlife Management Units Crossbow Hunting Avoiding Conflicts Between Hunters and Property Owners Public Input on Hunting Regulations Find on this Page Definitions Discharge of Firearms and Bows Manner of Taking Baiting Artificial Lights Spotlighting Possesion of Firearms Transportation of Firearms Contact for this Page NYSDEC Bureau of Wildlife 625 Broadway Albany, NY 12233-4754 518-402-8883 Send us an email This Page Covers

They bought sixty acres. Now buy a 6’ fence to keep your dogs on your own property.

Well I’m still stuck in Florida. Should get the go ahead from the doctor to leave in a week or so. Might make the last weekend. But nephew #2 scored this morning. Same area Roxbury Township 4P. This time private land. 37 yard shot with the 870 I gave him. Old school Remington #6 3 1-2” Nitro’s. So proud of these kids driving 4 hours from Long Island keeping up the traditions of the family. Hunting and fishing. True outdoorsmen.

Well while I’m stuck in Florida still with medical issues the nephews are still hunting. Nice to know traditions that you passed on continue without you. DEP property in 4P. Came in with another gobbler. 9” beard. Don’t know what time yet. Mossberg shotgun. We bought a 5 acre a lot that gives us good access to a very productive DEP piece in Roxbury Township. Update: Just talked to the kids. Very exciting morning. Cold. Lots of deer. Turkeys gobbled from the trees. Picked up hens and wandered around for a couple of hours. Nephews just waited them out. Two gobblers came from behind could only get a shot at one. 40 yard shot with #6 3” Long Beard ammo. First shot hit low was shooting uphill. Second shot ended it. They said lots of hunters out this morning. Lots of bear sign.

First deer I ever tracked. Found his scrape and fresh tracks. Started at about 12 noon and shot him around 1pm or so. He hid in a blown down. I got below him and shot him when he started trotting away. Hit him low and a back a bit. Fresh snow so he was easy to follow. Finished him off as it was getting dark. First deer I ever had to chase. Basket eight. Shot him with my Remington 750 carbine in 35 Whelen.

Turkey gun sight-in.......wow I’m jelly!!! Still stuck in Florida wish I was there.