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of course the law abiding citizens deserve the right to arm themselves and these new laws are screwing them, but I don't see the point in blaming the cops on the street for what's happening as many are doing......I bet most cops wish they could do their job without having to worry about using their guns or having others use guns against them.

and like it was said before, this is an issue that needs to be addressed with the lawmakers, not the cop on the street trying to do his job.....I would hope everyone would like the police to be able to do the job with the best tools afforded to them, and until this turns into something more than politicians screwing the public by infringing with their rights, lets not misdirect our anger.

actually, it's really more that cops need the proper tools to do their job, not a matter of feeling superior, most cops had revolvers until it was realized that criminals had them out gunned.....your average cop is not a fanatical gun owner who feels they are getting over on the average citizen by having a better gun or more bullets.

Cop's and gov't forces have been allowed to have arms that have been denied to the general public for years, the last magazine restriction that was enacted about 10 years ago went unchallenged, why is it just now that people are waking up?

and if you ask me, the companies who are now refusing to sell to anyone in NY are playing right into the hands of those who want to restrict gun and ammo sales here. It's not going to affect law enforcement agencies, just the general public.

Doc, I appreciate your well thought out post's....unfortunately many don't know where they should direct their anger and no matter how hard you try, it's not gonna change their way of thinking.

I can't help but think, that isn't this what The Governor wants? he wants restrictions on everything gun related, so the less people selling to NYer's the better.......like I said in another post, the majority of Officers are issued their guns and magazines by their dept, they're not buying them from these small companies.....maybe a small amount of guys buy restricted stuff with their credentials as L.E.O.'s.............now if Glock, Smith & Wesson, Ruger along with ammunition manufacturers stood up and did this it would have an impact.

you beat me to it, and as big as the shooting community is in NY, just think of the taxes that will be collected....can't see Albany having a problem with that........can't imagine any local dealer wanting to let anyone order discount ammo from anywhere delivered to his shop so the customer can save money, not gonna happen.

just a thought, but maybe it isn't having an impact on their business, that's why they can afford to do it.......I honestly think it will affect the general public more than any agency, if they refuse to sell to anyone in any State that has any restrictions, what's gonna happen when the ammo background check goes into affect? my guess is you can say goodbye to saving money on mail order because you'll be stuck buying at the local shop for more $....the outcry is from the public, and we see what Albany thinks about our opinion.

is it really the "cops" who support theses laws? there are letter's out there from several law enforcement agencies speaking out against these laws. If you're basing your entire opinion on the few who stood behind the governor when he announced these laws, I don't know what to tell you...there are probably more who oppose it.....and unless the big companies like Glock, Smith & Wesson, Ruger and any of the ammo manufacturers jump on board, these small companies aren't holding anyone accountable, because it will have no impact on how any agency operates.....does anyone think the NYPD is ordering 2000 Glocks a year from Midway?

oh boy, didn't take you long to dredge that up again did it?

actually, the police don't defend the laws, just just enforce them, people need to look at the bigger picture in the enforcement and prosecution of laws. How many have contacted their District Attorney's office and inquired if they intend to prosecute these laws? my guess is no one..........the cop on the street is the least of your concerns in this mess.

I agree, and the donation of money would be a more genuine gesture towards the gun owners. I don't think many of the law enforcement agencies buy guns or ammo from the small arms dealers, my guess is they buy directly from the manufacturer. I think they are directing this towards the few Law Enforcement Officers who may buy the odd high capacity magazine, etc. for his own personal use. The majority of guys are issued this banned stuff and that's all they want or need.......and unfortunately, another company is gonna sellout and cash in on the other companies refusal to sell to New York.

How about one of you guys who suggest that an individual officer take a stand and lose his job and everything else that comes along with that, and who have even hinted at armed resistance to fight against any lawful action against you and your guns, do this...show up at the State Capital for the next rally and bring with you any currently illegal magazines, weapons or whatever you refuse to give up or register and make a statement by getting arrested for these unconstitutional laws..........it may cost you some money, the loss of a job and who knows what else, but by the time you fight it all the way to the supreme court, it will hopefully be ruled that the laws under which you were arrested are unconstitutional and you will be exonerated and the laws will all have to be reversed.

to be quite honest, I've never even heard of these companies who are boycotting NY. Kinda like Hyundai saying they're not gonna supply cars to any NY law enforcement agency.

my guess is because most Sheriff's are elected by the people, and if I'm not mistaken, the Head of the NYS Police is appointed by the governor.............that say's it all

The police are any easy target for the general uneducated person to lash out at, maybe it's because they are out there in the public eye and not hidden in an office. It's pretty disturbing at the amount of people that associate them with EVERYTHING that is associated with laws and the criminal justice system, when in fact they're only a small piece of the criminal justice system. It's beyond me to understand why someone who is pissed off about these laws would look at the local cop on the street and feel he has anything to do what is going on.........It sounds to me like many go to bed at night fearing their front door is going to be kicked open and the cops are going to storm in and take all their guns.

Police are government employees, and that's who's laws they follow. there are numerous laws they enforce that many people think are wrong and consider violations of their rights. They're already given powers to deny citizens of rights when they break the law......but, I guess people are expecting them to turn in their badges and give up their livelihoods..........and consider this, not all cops are pro-gun ownership.

I don't think any topic on this board is complete until it turns on the police, alot of angry people out there, they need to blame someone.......I guess they don't realize that Police have had exemptions from certain gun laws forever, all of a sudden it's a problem.

I wonder if these companies actually have big dollar contracts with law enforcement agencies or if they just sell the odd gun to officers for personal use......that's gonna have a big impact on the result the boycott has.

I could care less as well....maybe someone should know if the nutjob living on your street just ordered 5000 rounds of ammo.

unfortunately almost everyone reacts to a situation based on their opinion.........it would probably be pretty shocking to see the number of people who will do nothing to assist in the fight against these laws, in any way, because they have no use for the guns that are being targeted.......I for one have no use for the guns currently being banned, in fact when one shows up at the range with a bag full of ammo and magazines, it's the signal for me to go home......however, I will do what I can to help the cause to fight the new laws.

How many of you that are calling him selfish for his thoughts on gun ownership and laws, have no problem being selfish by dividing the hunting community with your stands on antler restrictions, youth hunts, crossbows, etc.....? those are all me me me issue's.

one of the sections defining prohibitions regarding Assault weapons states "any of the weapons, or functioning frames or receivers of such weapons, or copies or duplicates of such weapons, in any caliber known as.........." it than goes on to list the makes and models of what are considered assault weapons. I would say the answer to your question is no.

I always thought you had to show full time residency for a pistol permit...am I wrong?