I said from the beginning it does not matter to me either way. But it seems to me that the way your acting and your nonsense statements has me believing you are the one being selfish. I am starting to agree with the other side of the coin " take your kids with you, you dont need a special weekend" . I am starting to think lowering the age all together makes more sense. I find it also after talking to 16 yr olds and 17 year olds a little BS that this works against them bigtime.