steve863

Unfortunately, I think your only bet will be Brookhaven to sight in a deer rifle like a .308. It's a nice range and all, but just not very close to the city. The good part is that I think it's open all day 4 or 5 days of the week. So if you have a day off during the week that will most definitely be the best time to go since the weekends can get crowded, especially close to deer season.

I figured you'd get a kick out of this, Geno. No, I really don't go out there much any more. This was before I had a wife and kids to take up all my time! I do want to go sometime this spring and summer and take everyone along with me to check out what is there these days. The kids are old enough to walk a bit further now. Those deer were spitting distance from me. Me and my brother who was shooting still pictures were just standing behind a couple of trees. Not like the deer didn't know we were there. They are quite tame out there, especially in the summer time. Well anyway, glad you liked it!

The Lazer sighters I saw were like rifle cartridges and would be centered in the chamber . If you put a lazer light flashlight in the rifle , I doubt it would be centered . If it is cocked a bit , it could make a big difference at 50 - 100 yards . Yeah, I know what you are saying, but I think the beam is thick enough on the flashlight where it would reflect off the inside of the barrel if it weren't centered well enough to shine thru it. I don't think the flashlight I got could shoot a visible beam more than 20-30 yards in daylight. I think this could help bring the crosshairs pretty close to center nonetheless. But then again one can use the method you suggested and that would work just as good which is the way I typically do it also. I just don't think those expensive bore sighters are really worth it. One has to fire some rounds anyway, so why not just use the old fashioned method?

I recently bought an LED flashlight that also has a red laser beam mode for $4 at Home Depot. I can wedge it to the top of my action once I remove the bolt and beam the light thru the barrel. I am sure it can do the job just as good as buying one of those expensive laser bore sighters.

Here you go, Geno! I'm glad I finally got this figured out and was able to download it here. This was filmed in July and August and I think the year was 1998. Old footage, but some dandies were running around the place that year!

Links to Robert Moses deer videos. [/size] [/size]

And it seems like half the gun shops on Long Island are in legal hot water right now, so there may not be many places left to buy guns and supplies either.

I think you might be out of luck to find something within an hour. Brookhaven might be your best option. Going over the bridges into NJ or Westchester/Rockland areas will end up being more time with the bridge traffic. That is why I miss the old Huntington range. It was less than 30 miles from NYC. Shooters are being pushed into the boonies, that is for sure!

Well, I could also see some disadvantages of having only one hole, but I won't get specific here. I do think the medical profession would lose out big time if we had only one hole. There wouldn't be a need for all the specialties like urology, gynocology, proctology, etc. You would just go to one doctor and have him put his digit in one hole and be done with it.

I'm sure glad we humans do it the way we do compared to birds! Sounds kind of messy. And I think we like to do it just as much as the birds although we probably don't want to admit it . Not to say that I have heard turkeys admitting anything lately either.

Continued luck to you then. I have absolutely NO desire to hunt in terrain like that. I could care less about antler scores also, so I will stick to hunting areas that are more accessible to both man and beast and where my success rate has still been pretty good.

You're not kidding!! It's sounds like a tougher job than pulling out trapped coal miners.

Isn't it all one and the same? The vast majority of people who plant any sized food plot are hunters who do it to attract deer to their land, so any sized food plot should be called a hunting plot in my opinion. Now if a tree hugger type person who dislikes hunting planted a food plot then I surely wouldn't call it a hunting plot, but guess what? I don't see any tree hugger types planting food plots for deer, so when we do see a food plot we generally know what the motive behind it really is.

If you guys have to use ropes to get down in there, exactly how do the deer get there? We are talking about whitetail deer here and not mountain goats after all. Deer are certainly more agile and surefooted than we are, but I would think it wouldn't be a pleasure trip for the deer to get in there neither. I would also think it would take some extremely heavy hunting pressure to push deer into a habitat like that. Deer can be lazy just like humans and they will most often opt for easier escape routes. It's not like deer have some super reasoning powers like many try to make us believe. Thousands upon thousands get shot each and every year of all shapes and sizes to prove this fact.

Yeah, I know what you mean by stepping on it! Luckily I don't wear shoes often. Thanks for clarifying!!

Sorry to hear it. I think I saw something about length extension methods available for men that are too short. Not that us non-pygmy Africans need to worry about such things.

Yeah, those loin cloths were snug because we had a white American missionary woman sew them for us. I guess she didn't realize that us African boys needed a bit more room down there compared to white American choirboys she worked with back in the states.

Nothing like live human bait, that's for sure. The whiter skinned human the better when it comes to baiting leopards! Don't exactly remember the name of who sent us the crossbow, but I know he was from upstate NY. The letter did say that he was sending us the bow because they weren't legal to hunt with in his home state. Too bad for him and lucky for us! I still wear those leopard teeth on a chain around my neck!

Yeah Doe, and do you remember that we went leopard hunting right afterwards? We went out with that neat crossbow some nice charitable person sent us from the USA.

OK Doe, I give you credit. You are being more truthful here than I was going to be. I was about to tell them that the video was shot a few years ago when we both were kids and that me and you can be seen singing on this video in the second row.

Wow, I thought me and Doewhacker were bad. We are looking like choirboys compared to you boys right now! LOL Well anyway, my only reason for posting is to try to help bring peace amongst our hunting brothers. Lets all stop, think of the sins we have committed, and sing along together. Video link attached to help you sing along!

I appreciate the info!

WNY, I would think campsites in national parks (the places we would most want to visit) might not be too easy get unless you prearrange well in advance, and on a cross country trip with kids it might not be too easy to time ones arrival perfectly so private campgrounds in some cases might be the only option. I agree with you that some private campgrounds are like amusement parks. Not that I have ever been in one, but I have seen some near roads that looked so packed and I can just imagine how rowdy things could get in there. I think one might get a quieter night of sleep in a hotel room than at a campsite like that. My wife and kids are the more quiet and peaceful type so I don't know if they would enjoy a place that could potentially get rowdy.

I can see the value in a knife like this, but I think one like this Browning would serve the same purpose plus you also have a normal blade and a saw all in one.

I think many people who use trail cameras must use some sort of bait to get the animals to come around, be it a food plot or something else. Those who nail them to any old tree probably get the least amount of pictures. So again the DEC seems to be contradicting themselves as usual when they say that animals shouldn't be fed, yet they allow it for this and with food plots, etc. This trail cam stuff actually has never done much for me. I much prefer seeing wildlife photos that were taken by an actual person standing behind the lens.