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Makes sense on the bullet shot ones that there is residue. I will bury any I shoot. But, I would bet more gun shot and not recovered deer are out there than yotes. I would also bet that any fish they eat out of polluted waters would be harmful, like all those eagles that winter on Onondaga lake. Eating some of the most polluted fish in the country. And how does a car hit coyote get lead in it?

I would love to have learned more about mushrooms and such... but like the rest of you I would really hate to poison my fool self to death!!

Most of the yotes I have shot the lead went in one side and out the other. Give to a neighbor down the street for the pelts if they are not mangy. If mangy laid where they died.

4S you are kinda being a Richard. Your statement might make sense if you are saying all the buck sightings big or small would be replaced by a doe sighting, which we know they won't. And as well, not one person said that they would be happy with never having the chance to shoot any buck big or small ever. It is not a priority for a lot of folks. For most of us it is losing the choice!! Myself I have shot a bunch of smaller bucks mostly when I was younger. Now I let all kinds of them pass by me and that is the phase I am in and my choice. I would never take away those great experiences I have had from any of our upcoming hunters or a guy/girl who gets out a couple days a year and he sees one deer say a 2.5 year old 6 point or a 1.5 year old spike and can't shoot it. pfft Back on topic I agree with most of the posters above. Using bow hunting instead of gun hunting to make the changes they seem to want is just a fail. I don't think it will increase illegal activity too much. Those that cheat will always cheat.

Send her this..... Winston-Salem, N.C. — MY mind was absorbed by the biochemistry of gene editing when the text messages and Facebook posts distracted me. So sorry about Cecil. Did Cecil live near your place in Zimbabwe? Cecil who? I wondered. When I turned on the news and discovered that the messages were about a lion killed by an American dentist, the village boy inside me instinctively cheered: One lion fewer to menace families like mine. My excitement was doused when I realized that the lion killer was being painted as the villain. I faced the starkest cultural contradiction I’d experienced during my five years studying in the United States. Did all those Americans signing petitions understand that lions actually kill people? That all the talk about Cecil being “beloved” or a “local favorite” was media hype? Did Jimmy Kimmel choke up because Cecil was murdered or because he confused him with Simba from “The Lion King”? In my village in Zimbabwe, surrounded by wildlife conservation areas, no lion has ever been beloved, or granted an affectionate nickname. They are objects of terror. Photo Protesters have called for the death of the hunter who killed Cecil the lion. Credit Eric Miller/Reuters When I was 9 years old, a solitary lion prowled villages near my home. After it killed a few chickens, some goats and finally a cow, we were warned to walk to school in groups and stop playing outside. My sisters no longer went alone to the river to collect water or wash dishes; my mother waited for my father and older brothers, armed with machetes, axes and spears, to escort her into the bush to collect firewood. A week later, my mother gathered me with nine of my siblings to explain that her uncle had been attacked but escaped with nothing more than an injured leg. The lion sucked the life out of the village: No one socialized by fires at night; no one dared stroll over to a neighbor’s homestead. When the lion was finally killed, no one cared whether its murderer was a local person or a white trophy hunter, whether it was poached or killed legally. We danced and sang about the vanquishing of the fearsome beast and our escape from serious harm. Recently, a 14-year-old boy in a village not far from mine wasn’t so lucky. Sleeping in his family’s fields, as villagers do to protect crops from the hippos, buffalo and elephants that trample them, he was mauled by a lion and died. The killing of Cecil hasn’t garnered much more sympathy from urban Zimbabweans, although they live with no such danger. Few have ever seen a lion, since game drives are a luxury residents of a country with an average monthly income below $150 cannot afford. Don’t misunderstand me: For Zimbabweans, wild animals have near-mystical significance. We belong to clans, and each clan claims an animal totem as its mythological ancestor. Mine is Nzou, elephant, and by tradition, I can’t eat elephant meat; it would be akin to eating a relative’s flesh. But our respect for these animals has never kept us from hunting them or allowing them to be hunted. (I’m familiar with dangerous animals; I lost my right leg to a snakebite when I was 11.) The American tendency to romanticize animals that have been given actual names and to jump onto a hashtag train has turned an ordinary situation — there were 800 lions legally killed over a decade by well-heeled foreigners who shelled out serious money to prove their prowess — into what seems to my Zimbabwean eyes an absurdist circus. PETA is calling for the hunter to be hanged. Zimbabwean politicians are accusing the United States of staging Cecil’s killing as a “ploy” to make our country look bad. And Americans who can’t find Zimbabwe on a map are applauding the nation’s demand for the extradition of the dentist, unaware that a baby elephant was reportedly slaughtered for our president’s most recent birthday banquet. Continue reading the main story Write A Comment We Zimbabweans are left shaking our heads, wondering why Americans care more about African animals than about African people. Don’t tell us what to do with our animals when you allowed your own mountain lions to be hunted to near extinction in the eastern United States. Don’t bemoan the clear-cutting of our forests when you turned yours into concrete jungles. And please, don’t offer me condolences about Cecil unless you’re also willing to offer me condolences for villagers killed or left hungry by his brethren, by political violence, or by hunger. Goodwell Nzou is a doctoral student in molecular and cellular biosciences at Wake Forest University.

I like that idea Doc. Lots of good comments. At times I think we are our own worse enemy. I mean that we lack in ways to promote ourselves unified as a group. We find ourselves attacked in this politically correct climate where LOUD small interest groups get the media. And the media in this country is not in any means a non biased news source. The media is more like a reality show these days. Sensationalize and sell be damned the facts. We get compared to stuff like the Cecil shooting not by people that are close to us and understand but by a lot of the general public who are not in touch. They look at this and see hunter and us and see hunter. I don't want to be represented by that.

So with all the negative public opinions on trophy hunting due to recent news blasts, Cecil etc.... https://gma.yahoo.com/beyond-cecil-lion-trophy-hunting-industry-africa-explained-183200620--abc-news-pets.html My question is - Do you think with all the AR talk and trophy deer rules being pushed in this state, and on this site, are we the start of our own demise? Many studies over the past decades show 10%-15% of people hunt and 10%-15% are antis that leaves 70%-80% in the middle. Of these middle the majority have supported sustenance hunting, hunting only species you eat and use. As you make deer hunting into you can only shoot trophies and blackballing the guy/girl who is happy shooting a forkhorn to feed his/her family. What is this doing to the middles perception of us? Real discussion and polite replies only. I do not want a piss match just good discussion. My and my children's future hunting rights may very well depend on our actions in the next 5-10 years.

Easton Carbon Raider Platinum 65-80 with 2 inch Blazer vanes out my Diamond Marquise Custom Black Eagle executioner out of the new Mission crossbow - oops those are bolts not arrows! both will be shooting Rages

Yea we had a lot but leftovers are awesome!! Smoked bologna sandwiches yum!

My ABTs - atomic buffalo turds Jalapino pepper stuffed with a mixture of cream cheese, cheddar, garlic, honey and rub wrapped in bacon. Make them from scratch.

ATBs, bacon wrapped scallops, pork ribs, beef short ribs, wild pork shoulder, wild pork loin, and a 3 pound Bologna. Burp

I always split lobsters when grilling. You get a different texture a bit dryer than putting them in a pot. Both ways are good just different.

Deer #1 and deer #2

Yum I like garlic pickles!! It is always more rewarding the more of your own sweat is put into something!!

Hmm I did not know the local crabs, lol freshwater were like the ones down in the bayou, saltwater and ok to eat?? Next time you put out that spread give us a shout!!! Your friends don't know nothing!!

No wonder I can't find any ammo!!

89 and Thanks!!

I use a Western, My grandfather gave me his when I was young and he taught me. I carried it for years but almost lost it once so had to put it up. I went online and bought one each my young son and I. They do not make them anymore so you can't get new ones. Always been favorites of mine since Pop gave me his.

I drag the deer to a good open space I can work in and always hang my orange hat on a branch over where I am working. I take out and open my one gallon Ziplock bag, a red hanky to clean hands and knife so I don't have to dig in pack while bloody. I ring the butt first and pull it out a bit when its' loose, I can't see carrying a butt out as this only takes 1-2 minutes anyway. I don't bother tying off, I will explain later. I then roll the deer on its back with me standing over the rib cage with the deer's front legs kind of tucked behind mine to balance. This makes gravity pull the guts down away from where I will start my cut right at the v in sternum. I cut down to the side of the jewels or teats. Then roll the deer on its side and reach in and find the bladder and up to the loose end of the anus and pinch off and pull out. No need to tie it that way I can reach right up to the end. I then cut through the diaphragm and up to cut the windpipe and esophagus. Everything pretty much pulls out from there you may have to cut or tear away some connective tissue up near the spine. If I have a lactating doe I will cut out the whole sack, that thing holds heat and will screw your meat if not careful. I tip the deer up to drain and bag up the heart. I do not split the pelvis or ribs, that just promotes contamination while dragging. If you are in extreme heat then I can see doing it. I also use a small 3.5 inch blade knife. I see some guys with like a Bowie knife and I am like whoa!!

Love looking at the pics you shoot Wooly!

I would use a ladder stand in preference over the blind. I would keep wind, sun and good cover tree at the front of my plan. I would also prefer the deer to be coming from a angle from left or right across in front of me. I never want to be on a trail where deer are coming looking right at me. To easy to get picked off getting your weapon ready. The spot depends on what time of day you are hunting it, morning, night or all day as this will probably mean a lot towards where you will want to be.

My bluetick lab mix is a rescue from North Carolina got her at 8-10 weeks old. Not a problem dog just an unwanted dog.... She has been great.

Very nice pics Wooly, thanks for sharing!!

My blue berries are loaded and fat and just starting to ripen, lots of blackberries but on the small side this year,

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