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  1. 10 minutes ago, heavuser said:

    You know, when I asked them for extra doe tags besides the 2 dmp tags I got they said not until November, does that sound right to you?

    Yes, the "extra" DMP tags only become available when the DEC has not given out the number that they have predetermined that they want to give out for a particular management unit. (I assume this is based on what they want the anterless harvest to be and the expected success rate for that unit.) So, even for units that historically are undersubscribed these permits are not available early on.  Lots of folks only hunt gun season and buy their licenses before that season opens.

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  2. 42 minutes ago, PraiseDiana said:

    How does it work if you select the same WMU for both DMPs? Does it count as two drawings with the same odds?

    No, look at the DEC website mentioned above.  In some WMUs, for example, a PP is required to have a chance of drawing your first DMP and there is no chance of drawing a second DMP.  So, it depends on the WMU.  In some WMUs the odds are HIGH for both permits and they always even have extra DMPs that you can apply for at a later date.

  3. 4 hours ago, bigpaul said:

    Got it today. Bought the Lifetime 21 years ago for $750 with bow and muzzleloader. 

     

    Same here, we also get free DMP tags and never have to hassle getting the licenses, they mail it to you, good deal.

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  4. I agree Rob.  I am nearly 68 and in my lifetime the deer hunting has improved substantially.  I live in Oswego and have numerous places to fish within a 45 minute drive.  Other states have things to offer that we don't but we have lots of opportunities in NY and it's not too hard to stock the freezer with venison and fish.  (Turkeys have been a problem lately!)  Where I live we don't have much concern about earthquakes, forest fires, hurricanes and floods.  A person with skills and a good work ethic can usually support a family.  Yes, we have much to be grateful for.

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  5. My GF and I often joke about taking "the kitchen shot" on the farm.  We've never done it, I certainly would not think of it as hunting.  Maybe if we needed a doe at the end of the season? 

  6. 8 hours ago, Swamp_bucks said:

    Just be careful even the most seasoned loggers can get hurt.  
     

    Few years back my BIL who’s done fire wood since he was 10 forgot to look up before he cut a tree and never saw the widow maker.  It killed him instantly so always make sure you pay attention. 

    Yes, there is a lot of logging in my area and it seems most every year a logger or farmer is killed.  And from experience I also agree dead trees are dangerous.  No telling what the top of a dead tree will do and the "hinge" from a dead tree can crack or pop, causing loss of control.  Please don't ask how I know these things...

  7. 37 minutes ago, left field said:

    "Hey, sis! Hold these two rods for a minute!"

    Cool video.

    I did a quick Google search and saw that one version of this device was recalled after 30 deaths. And that would have been 25 or so years after I bought one.  Somehow I survived.  As I recall it worked, but was not great.

  8. 4 hours ago, ApexerER said:

    Used to hit the whole roll with a hammer. Man would your ears ring!

    We would take two bolts and a large nut, put caps in the nut, SLOWLY screw the bolts into the nut.  Drop from waist height onto the sidewalk, stand back after it was dropped.  Not recommended!

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  9. When I was a kid Netcraft sold "Electric Worm Getters".  Basically it was two copper rods that you stuck in the ground a certain distance apart and then plugged it in.  It was dicey, but it worked.  I imagine it went the way of Lawn Jarts, for good reason!

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  10. 1 hour ago, airedale said:

    Turkey hunting has evolved a lot for me over the years. I live a stones throw away from one of the DEC's first release areas of wild live trapped birds to establish viable breeding populations. It was a resounding success and after just  few years birds were being seen in good numbers and serious hunting for them began. I learned the basics and killed a few but can say I was not bitten by the bug. My biggest mistake was raising a flock of western Merriam wild Turkeys here on the farm and the luster of hunting the local wild birds faded away big time.

    This year a thread about Turkey hunting with a double barrel stirred my interest and I thought I would get out and kill one with my classic LC Smith double. I knew there were a few around from seeing them when Deer and Squirrel hunting. Did some scouting and with some observation I found there was a small local flock frequenting my hunting ground. Best I could tell there are six hens and one Tom and I had their daily routine down pretty good. What bothered me a bit was just the single Tom, I was hoping to see some satellite opportunistic Toms or Jakes hazing those six hens. I see other Toms out in fields and crossing roads in the area so I figured sooner or later I was going to see them horning in on the local boy. Well it has not happened, day after day I am seeing the same Tom with his harem with no competition. I could have killed him several times but I keep holding out as I want those six hens to have an opportunity to mate. To make matters worse they are now coming out of the woods every day and hanging around my house LOL, shooting the Tom now would be almost the same as killing those tame Merriams I once had, Personally with the way things stand I would really not feel very good about killing him at this point so with the wife's encouragement he is getting a pass.  Believe it or not he is right outside my window gobbling now 20 yards away.

    Al

     

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    If you were to take that gobbler it's pretty much guaranteed that the hens will pick up a new boyfriend within a few days.  Don't ask me how they do it, but I have seen it several times.

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  11. That's a great first picture.  Those choppers and claws are impressive.  They are well equipped.  I saw one race up a tree after a grey squirrel, the squirrel jumped to another tree and the fisher followed.  There was a scuffle and some noise.  It was over in a flash and the fisher came down with the squirrel in its mouth.

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  12. 5 hours ago, Four Seasons said:

    Now this sounds like something only Ny could come up with…..You may not hunt Turkey with crossbow in the fall in the Northern zone if you are using dogs…. Has anyone ever hunted turkeys with dogs using any kind of weapon?                             Typical for this state. 

    I believe it is popular amongst a very small group of people.  I think there are guides that do this as I have read articles in outdoor magazines.  As Pygmy said, the primary purpose of the specially trained dogs is to find and scatter a flock.  Then the dog (who is trained to do so) is hidden under a blanket or towel while the hunter attempts to call the flock back.  Clearly this would not work in areas with smallish tightly posted areas like where I hunt.

  13. 6 hours ago, hueyjazz said:

    "Can you just get bear spray or is it illegal in ny"

    You can get "self protection" sprays which are limited in size and potency.  Some of these are actually labelled bear sprays but really what you would be doing is really upsetting a bear at close range.

    The types of bear sprays that actually work aren't allowed in NY.  But they aren't necessary for our black bears

    From USA Today

    In New York, there was a fatal attack in 2002, when a young male bear killed an infant in the Catskills, DEC Region 3 Wildlife Manager Ted Kerpez said. Six other people have been injured during the last 26 years; in almost every case, it was due to people chasing or trying to take food or a cub from a bear, he said.

    I did a quick google search and it does seem to be illegal to have large quantities of bear spray in your possession in NY.  Apparently "bear spray" is differentiated from "self defense" spray by the quantity and concentration of the Capsaicin.  The same search showed a statement from the DEC that said there was no DEC policy against bear spray when used for its intended purpose.  Of course, that does not trump state law.  With that said, I saw bear spray for sale in a big box store in Rochester a few weeks ago.  I guess I won't name the store.  (It was true bear spray, large, concentrated canisters, I think 2 for around $40.)  Of course, the same stores sell deer bait and its' use is not legal in NY either.  Your mileage may vary.  Luckily, I have only seen one bear in all my times in the woods so I have no need of bear spray.  He/she smelled me from 100 yards away and ran like hell.  Man, they can really cover some ground!

  14. I agree they often hang out together and I'm sure a big reason for that is that it is beneficial to both for security.  I also have observed apparent "play behavior" between them.  Most often involving fawns but sometimes adults.  I've seen deer bluff charge turkeys just to make them move a bit and have seen turkeys puff up and flap their wings and jump up  in the direction of fawns, apparently for the same reason.  Sometimes I think they "enjoy" each others' company, if that is possible.

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  15. 14 hours ago, Uncle Nicky said:

    Ask 100 hunters, you will get 100 answers.

    I've seen pheasant & grouse basically disappear during my stay on the planet called Earth.

    Fall turkey hunting probably has the LEAST impact on turkey numbers, but that's where everyone points the finger first. I'm convinced most fall turkeys are killed by guys that are archery hunting for deer & sling an opportunistic arrow out of boredom, and not by dedicated fall turkey hunters. 

    Predators, ESPECIALLY avian predators, are probably the biggest culprits. But it seems like trapping keeps the 4 legged predators in check, or at least helps somewhat. 

    Then there is terrain changes, farming practices, suburban sprawl, climate changes, maybe some sort of avian diseases that haven't been discovered yet......

    I have to agree about avian predators.  Fifty years ago (gasp!) there simply were a lot less birds of all kinds, probably due to the use of DDT.  Pheasants and rabbits were common and often seen in fields.  Now there seems to be hawks and other predatory birds atop every other telephone pole in the country.  That's a slight exaggeration of course but back then you rarely saw one.  Pheasants, which were prone to be out in the open, became easy targets.  Of course we also have a lot more coyotes now and from what I've seen fishers are effective and their numbers are growing.  Things change, they always do. 

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