PETERBFLY

How about you tell Shawn that... Im waiting for my personal message to tell me to cool it or im booted again..

Just using it as an example. Shawn banned my reply and reported me as if I insulted his family... So I used other posts as examples, but I know im wasting my time.. I just dont seem to fit in on this site.

HOW ABOUT THIS ONE???? TOTALLY ON TOPIC RIGHT? JUST MY POST WAS THE PROBLEM... WHAT DOES SNORT WHEEZE HAVE TO DO WITH THE PHASE OF THE RUT DURING GUN SEASON?

WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH WHAT PART OF THE RUT IT IS WHEN GUN SEASON OPENS? SHOULD I KEEP GOING? ARE YOU KIDDING ME SHAWN? WHAT LAME ANSWER ARE YOU GOING TO GIVE ME NOW? THAT I DERAILED THE ORIGINAL TOPIC? I THINK YOU ARE PICKING A FIGHT WITH ME... THATS WHAT I THINK... IMMEDIATELY BREAK MY BALLS AS IF I POSTED ABOUT ANTLER RESTRICTIONS AGAIN...

THIS WAS ALSO OFF HIS ORIGINAL TOPIC, BUT MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE RE-RAILED HIM THE MINUTE HE VEERED OFF COURSE. FORGIVE ME FOR NOT CORRECTING HIM IMMEDIATELY

DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH WHAT PART OF THE RUT IT IS WHEN GUN OPENS? THIS GUY WAS DERAILING ALSO? I DONT KNOW, MAYBE IM CRAZY.. JETMEC DIFFERENT GUY, NOT ME..

Reported? There are like ten different discussions here about the Rut, Poachers and asking permission to hunt on other pieces of property. Do we have a problem????? I thought I would give this website another try and it seems as though that was a mistake. Always seems like someone is picking a fight with me.. Not many friendly hunters here.. Its a shame too because im a fanatic and love swapping stories.

Sounds to me like alot of good advice.. I dont really have much more to offer, but I do have a suggestion.. Bowhunt.. I think it is the absolute best time to be in the woods.. First two weeks in November are magical and the bucks are cruising lookinh for some tail. Thats when a Grunt call is invaluable.. You can also learn alot bowhunting considering the fact that you need to be close for a kill shot.. I started bow hunting when I was 15 and didnt take a Racked Buck until I was 26 (with the bow). Many mistakes and mishaps in between, but I learned alot about deer. First week of gun is so so for me, but after that I just fill my doe tag. Too much pressure and any buck worth his salt has gone nocturnal in my area. Im also in Columbia County.. Chatham/Kinderhook area. Lots of deer and not many bow hunters which makes for some exciting hunting. Plus if you love to hunt, why not do it as much as possible? Im in the woods in October with a bow and in December with my Muzzeloader.. The deer absolutely hate me.. I think a nice buck is in the near future for you. Dont kick yourself either. I could tell you 50 should have could have would have stories.. Those mistakes and mishaps have made me a deadly camoflauged ninja..

I have been using a Knight and Hale generic grunt call (NEVER LEAVE HOME WITHOUT IT) and I actually rigged it up to make it sound as Realistic as possible. You would laugh if you saw it because of all the duct tape on it.. I wanted it to sound like a young buck grunt as oppose to the deep grunt that it made.. I have grunted in and shot around 4 bucks with it so far. All 7 and 8 pointers too.. Grunted in tons of young bucks also.

Some nice bucks fellas.. How do I post my pics on here?

Just wanted to say hello to everyone.. Im sure some of you remember me. Hope you all had a great season in 2012.. I managed a doe with the bow and an 8 pointer with the muzzeloader.. Just got back from upstate last night.. Hung some stands and cleaned up the woods a bit.. Had a doe and spike pay me a visit while I was tossing logs.. Saw alot of good sign too, so im thinking its going to be a pretty good year....

Yes sir. Doe tag (DMP) can be used for any season you want. Bow, Rifle or Muzzel. The Bow/Muzzel Antlerless can only be used during bow and then again for the Bow/Muzzeloader season. I would save the Bow either sex for a buck or until the end, because once you use it you will not be able to take a buck with the bow or muzzeloader should the opportunity present itself. Hope that helps. Good Luck!

OK Bubba, thanks for clearing that up for me. Boy have I had it wrong this whole time. I always thought that cows had antlers and bulls were the ones who gave the milk too, but now I know the truth. My man Mr. Vet, I read a comment you posted regarding the AR hunters being against taking does and I wanted to point out that I am a Pro-AR hunter who is totally for harvesting does. Do me a favor and talk to Sits in Stands about the benefit of the Restriction. One more thing I wanted to add: I know Illinois doesnt have AR's in place, but when I hunted there (just one time), I saw 60% more bucks then does and lots of nice bucks too. They had a very healthy deer Population and Harvested 2-3 does for every buck that was taken. Know why? Because they wanted to keep the Buck to Doe Ratio the same or more to keep the competition for Breeding rights and allow the more Dominant bucks to do most if not all of it. Ask Jet about the area he skydives in which is an AR unit. Ask him te quality of bucks he sees there compared to what it use to be. Sits in Stands will also agree. Im done going in Circles. Think im getting booted off this site anyway. Happy Hunting!

Im 17 and a half

No you troll, its about education and filling the holes of the bucket of conservation and unifying us as a whole and not a half of a whole. You are so ignorant you troll, must be related to Jetmec. You dont know what your talking about, killing small bucks that offer no challenge is Great. I pump my chest once for every point, so I usually only gots to pump it twice. Illinois doesnt have AR so your dumb you troll. Meet me at Dicks so we can buy some bubble gum and candy bars. Im gonna keep on killing young bucks because it smell good in the pan, yes sir. Even though I could just shoot a doe instead..

Im not gonna throw even half of my two cents in, just gonna quote somone who hunts an AR area. Argue this one and tell me im still wrong.

Trolls huh? U mean the guys who dont shoot anything that offers a shot? The guys who enjoy the challenge of the hunt and the trophy they may or may not get? If you have a spike walk into bow range would you be as excited as you would if a big 10 pointer did the same?

EDIT: Geno C LEAVE THE WIFE TALK OFF THIS SITE...

I honestly think this is more about hunters who dont get to spend alot of time in the woods and when they do, there isnt much action versus guys like myself and Jet who do spend alot of time in the woods and see tons of deer. I wish we could divide the regulation so you can continue to harvest whatever you want in your area and areas like mine can impose restrictions because there are plenty of does that can go into the freezer. I have 2 does tags, plus my Super Sportsman Doe tag and my Either sex Archery Tag. I can legally take 4 doe and I would have no problem filling every tag with my bow

Yes Sir!! There you go Anti AR hunters.. Its working and you have nothing to say.. Thanks for the info Sits in Trees. I have been going back and forth with these guys and they keep saying I am a dummy. I would say you heard it from the Horses mouth and I will refer everyone to you from now on. Its amazing how an animal/fish will grow to become bigger if you dont harvest it.

I understand that the 1.5 YO are bucks are misplaced by the doe groups, but the same happens on the property next to mine and so on. We have tons of deer where I hunt and I would say 85% of them are does and 1.5 YO bucks. Why do bucks have antlers? To compete for breeding rights correct? So why arent they all just spikes then? Why do the horns progressively get bigger and bigger each year? There is a scientific reason that nature intended them to grow and become more dominant. Perhaps it is for the health and balance of the overall herd? I know, im a dummy right? I think you are the same, but I am not the one insulting anyone.

How would you say I make myself look like a dummy? Its really a very simple concept. If I let a 1.5 YO buck walk, he will grow to be a bigger 2.5 YO buck Right? So if he and all the other young bucks which are normally shot make it, now you have almost 100% more bucks in the area. So if only one or two of the 2.5 YO bucks make it through hunting season, now we are talking a very smart 3.5 YO buck or two. Thats all I want. A 3.5 YO buck in my area might score 115-120 if im lucky and I am satisfied with that. Im not expecting a 180 class 12 pointer because we dont have the genetics, but the overall quality should definitely improve. What is dumb about that?????????????????????????????????

How would you say I make myself look like a dummy? Its really a very simple concept. If I let a 1.5 YO buck walk, he will grow to be a bigger 2.5 YO buck Right? So if he and all the other young bucks which are normally shot make it, now you have almost 100% more bucks in the area. So if only one or two of the 2.5 YO bucks make it through hunting season, now we are talking a very smart 3.5 YO buck or two. Thats all I want. A 3.5 YO buck in my area might score 115-120 if im lucky and I am satisfied with that. Im not expecting a 180 class 12 pointer because we dont have the genetics, but the overall quality should definitely improve. What is dumb about that?????????????????????????????????

Exactly!!! A hunter who knows what they are doing versus a hunter who walks into a diner to have breakfast with all of his/her hunting clothes on. Who has no idea which direction the wind is blowing and spends most of their time spooking almost every deer in the woods. You know exactly who you are..