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    permethrin not working for ticks

    in General Hunting

    Posted

    25yrs running hounds & bird dogs it was rare to find one. Now in the last 5yrs we found ticks every outing. Go to DOD and read there treatment plan. We use Python dust, and cattle tags on collars.

    We dip our training shits and pants in Permethrin and let dry, Sawyers works. I'd pay close attention to cuffs and hat, this has cut down on the ticks but not all.

    How to lose your guns

    in General Chit Chat

    Posted · Edited by Huntscreek

    I don't have the time, desire or need to read this entire thread.....but yes, if you do something stupid with a gun, you may deserve to lose the right to own one, Constitution or not.......I know many say that owning a gun is a God given right, but I can't find that anywhere in the Bible...nor can I find proof that God even exists...enjoy.

    If you was to read the thread more people agree on mentally ill and Criminal's should not have a gun. BUT yes if your mentally ill or used a gun in a crime than you should lose your Right BUT with due process by the law.

    Now Your looking in the wrong book if your in the bible,The wording God Given is used as a figure of Expression by some yes. Your Freedom to believe is your right, and that's in the same Constitution that protects you to write your comments here. US History 101 is the book you want to pick up, a lot of our history is being forgotten.

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    How to lose your guns

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    What your saying Belo is people like me are the problem? Why because I believe in the US Constitution I' am a Extremist, No That use be called being an American at one time. More Laws and bigger government regulating meddling in your life is not freedom nor American. The next time I fight for your rights I'll make sure I only fight for part of them you like LOL.

    Belo if being a Extremist means not compromising nor allowing infringements of OUR rights, than so be it. Now What are you?, do you even know, 1/2 pro 1/2 anti only for what gun control you see fit. There is already a little north Korean fellow who runs a country that way.Rest assured when your handing you bunny gun over mine will be in my cold dead hands, now that's extreme.

    How to lose your guns

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    Posted · Edited by Huntscreek

    Belo I told you in another post that there is more to the shooting of the dog. I also Told What it would take for me to kill another's dog. If you read and comprehend only your view and can't understand I can't help you there. Your view on guns in America and history is a delusion, in your own mind, none based on fact. Also when your led to the facts you fail to read or only want to see your View. There is an old saying you can lead a horse to water but can't force him to drink, you are the horse.

    How to lose your guns

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    What you fail to realize is that not all hunters believe in a free for all.

    Regardless, you still said shooting a dog, regardless of why was a non-violent act lol. I don't even need to go any further.

    What I do realize, that will be all your down fall. I would also say if your logic towards firearms is systemic NY is worse off than we think. I'm so glad we are out of NYS in 2mos, you and like minded are very confused as to privilege's and Constitutional rights and will learn it the hard way. 

    Reasons to kill a dog would be attacking me on my property, Attacking a loved one on my property, Attacking one of my dogs or animal's that stay on my property.

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    How to lose your guns

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    Belo without due process with true facts, your just rioting in the street.

    Honest Gun owners guns are being illegally confiscated everyday. You are a gun owner on a Hunting site, in favor of Gun control? You do realize your bunny gun is next. 

    We’ve heard it over and over again, particularly on shows like Morning Joe. Anyone who thinks that the government is “coming to take your guns” is a paranoid loon, watching for black helicopters and guarding their sheep from soldiers. Unfortunately for those formerly right leaning, Second Amendment minded folks who bought into this story, reality has come screaming up from behind well ahead of schedule.

    Following the passage of “The SAFE Act” in New York State, Big Brother got busy pretty quickly grabbing up the guns. Of course nobody was reporting on it very much until they managed to collect them from the wrong guy and a judge made them give them back.

    BUFFALO, N.Y. — Thursday, a state Supreme Court Judge ruled guns seized from David Lewis, 35, must be returned to him after he was incorrectly identified as violating the mental health provision of the SAFE Act.

    “We know that from the health care agency to the State Police, there was some kind of breach,” said Lewis’ attorney, Jim Tresmond.

    I don’t know how much more chilling that lede could be, really. This isn’t some worry about the government possibly confiscating guns. These are guns that were already confiscated by the government. But if you think that’s as bad as it gets, guess again. Here’s why his guns were taken.

    Tresmond says his client was ordered to turn in his weapons last week because he was once on anti-anxiety medication, which is a violation of the SAFE Act. Wednesday, State Police informed the Erie County Clerk’s Office that it made a mistake when it said Lewis was in violation of the state’s new gun law.

    For all of our more liberal leaning readers who continue to ask “what’s so bad” about universal background checks before we’ve even seen the specifics, this is your answer. In New York, you can be placed on a “list”of people with no Second Amendment rights on the say so of any doctor who has questions. And it already happened to David Lewis. Thankfully, he’s getting his guns back… for now. But what is the larger effect of this if we put it on a national scale?

    The NY SAFE Act requires “mental health professionals, in the exercise of reasonable professional judgment, to report if an individual they are treating is likely to engage in conduct that will cause serious harm to him- or herself or others.”

    If such a determination is made, “the Division of Criminal Justice Services will determine whether the person possesses a firearms license and, if so, will notify the appropriate local licensing official, who must suspend the license. The person’s firearms will then be removed.”

    The law has come under fire from gun-rights advocates as well as mental health professionals, who fear the new law discourages people from seeking professional help for mental health issues.

    Okay, I can see your point about the adverse effect on those seeking help for mental disorders. If you know that you’ll have your constitutional rights curtailed if you tell a doctor you are depressed or filled with anxiety, you might not go seek help. But that also sort of buries the lede here…

    They’re Already Taking Away Guns From People For Having ONCE Been Prescribed ANTI-ANXIETY MEDICINE.

    Doug Mataconis gives the legal beagle perspective on catching up people seeking medical help in a legal net. (Read the whole thing.)

    The SAFE Act in particular seems to me to be overly broad in defining what qualifies as a reportable condition. It’s one thing for a person who is delusional on the level of a Seung-Hui Choi or Jared Loughner to be caught up in the net, it is quite another for someone who was apparently merely on an anti-anxiety drug to have their Constitutional rights limited. If taking that kind of medication is enough to get you on a list, then what about the millions upon millions of Americans who are on some form of anti-depressant or who take medication that alters their mood in any manner? Are they going to get put on a government list too, and what, exactly, is the government going to do with that list? History is replete with examples of psychiatry being abused by the state, and the danger of abuse becomes even higher when the law broadens the number of conditions that are reportable to the state.

    We have thus far been unable to get anyone from New York to own up to how many people have had their guns taken away this year under the new SAFE Act. Neither has the YNN news team. But the facts in evidence are not in dispute. The law is still so new that the “new law smell” hasn’t worn off it yet but they are already going around and confiscating guns.

    This new universal background check bill is the hot ticket in DC right now. You can read the full text of it here, which thus far contains nothing about expanding how one qualifies as “mentally ill” but there are multiple amendments to come, so we don’t even know what will be in the final version. A repeating theme is that it will have to “do something” about keeping guns out of the hands of the mentally ill. But how is that to be accomplished? Will it only affect those who have been adjudicated in court to be proven, dangerous, unstable individuals and who have had the opportunity to object to their classification? Or will it be something that slides closer to what we now have in New York?

    And yet… we’re all paranoid. Right, Joe Scarborough? I could insert one clip after another of the insulting, uninformed comments in the mainstream media made toward those who expressed concerns over this type of unbridled nanny state activity. But you’ve seen them all before. and there’s no use boring you with them here again now. As for me, I’ll stay in my basement, eating my Cheetos, cleaning my Glock and guarding the sheep. You never know.

    UPDATE: (Jazz) From the comments. An excellent question.

    Number one question for those who favor “universal background checks” – how do you enforce them?

    In other words, how will authorities know if an individual who possesses a firearm submitted to a background check?

    If they can answer this question without needing to resort to a database, or a registry, then I am all ears.

    dugan on April 13, 2013 at 12:14 PM

     
     

     

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    How to lose your guns

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    Posted · Edited by Huntscreek

    The Alarming thing is its to easy to take a right away and hard to take privileges. Now I think this story is missing a lot of back ground on the people involved for 1 and it was just plain stupid and lacked common sense. Its deeper than the dog. As I read story after story of gun owners having guns removed for some non violent use of them is disturbing. If a person is mentally ill and owns guns lets give them the legal due process in court to disarming them not just attack there right's to bare arms. What about there License to drive revoked it, and being able to drive or hunt. Until we address the real problem this will still go on. Look at the pilot he killed 150 people his weapon a plane into a mountain, they say mental illness not planes. Now if he would of shot everyone with gun it would be Gun Control lobbyist and groups yelling take the guns. Address the real problem not what is used to do the killing 150 plus by nut with plane 21 killed in Newtown by a Gun.

    Situation in Baltimore

    in Gun and Hunting Laws and Politics Discussions

    Posted

    This may sound harsh but I am so tired of the race card. Every time there is an event involving an African American it turns to race, and people like Al Sharpton make a living keeping racism alive. when you seen the President and the Mayor make Sharpton a council your asking for trouble to ratchet it up. Now are there wrongs being done to people by SOME police Yes, not all. Now look at the people of color who are not qualified to do the job 1st comes to Mined the President and the Mayor of Baltimore, now I don't care about there color they are just not able to do the job elected to do. This Country has made head way on race related issues but Al Sharpton destroys that head way. The other think I take issue with is Slavery and Americans have this hanging over our head if you disagree with a person of Color your a racist. Slavery happen same as the Holocaust it was wrong lets move on. A racist Country WHAT we have a African American President and DOJ not to mention other position across the country, but if you fail on the job please stop blaming race. If you march and loot and rob your a thief looter and a criminal, no matter what race ethic background or religion you are. If you don't like what's going on do something before you use events after the fact. Last but not least most of these places have been under years of Democrat Liberal rule, if they want to fix it look at the elected official's and see there way of governing is not working. If only all those that marched or looted came out and Voted for the future of the cities and states. Stop Voting for Color of someone's skin or someone's party or sex and Vote the best for your community. Remember Abraham Lincoln was a republican, so stop giving your voice away by voting the status quo.

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    Tim McGraw to Headline Anti-Gun Concert in Connecticut

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    Where did I call for disarming all citizens?  All I would want is some stinking uniformity in the gun laws of this nation.   This would not solve ALL gun crime, but it would be a step in the right direction.  We don't need NY's SAFE act, but we don't need NO laws either.   You guys ever wonder where the guns that are used in Chicago, Detroit and DC were obtained since these cities have strict gun laws?  What good are those strict gun laws when one can walk over into a neighboring state and buy whatever they want with NO questions asked?  Oh yeah, I forgot you guys get offended when someone wants you to submit to a background check before you are allowed to purchase a gun, so why am I even asking you??  You'll tell me that it's a violation of your constitutional right! LOL

    A better way to view that is who are those using guns Chicago Detroit  DC  and why. Also where did they get them, Robbed them from someone's home. I never been in trouble with the law but I get NICS check for every purchase, the people your talk of have no intention to following laws.

    An Example of a Violation of my Constitutional rights would be: I'm driving though or visiting one of the area's you mentioned Where some Unconditional Law says I can't have a gun and Mr. or Mrs. criminal try harm me or my family and I am YOU. Now they took my rights of self protection, and made me a victim without a choice.   

    See the feel good law disarmed me and the Criminal didn't read the memo, so I became or WE became one of your murder statistics. So some of those numbers are honest people getting shot.

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    Tim McGraw to Headline Anti-Gun Concert in Connecticut

    in Gun and Hunting Laws and Politics Discussions

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    I refer to YOU guys as those who can't handle any form of gun control, even something as simple as background checks.  Plenty of hunters and gun owners that are not as paranoid as you and don't think that ALL laws pertaining to gun ownership will lead to total confiscation.  In fact I would say that the majority of hunters and gun owners don't.  So you can call us stupid if and when you ever see total confiscation.

    You See it has nothing to do with being paranoid, The spin Steve. It has to do with Views and facts, I view Gun-Ownership as a right You view it as a Privilege. So you think Safe Act was not intended for confiscation, it was Cuomo's 1st plan that night and he settled for Registration and relocation of said Assault weapons. Paranoid NO just not blind to their end game, as you so called "Plenty of Hunters and Gun owners" that are ok with it. Having a strong stance on this issue is not paranoia, its seeing the truth. You should thank everyone that  takes a Stronger stance than you, because of them you still own your Guns.  

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    Tim McGraw to Headline Anti-Gun Concert in Connecticut

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    Why don't they start comparing the gun murder rate of the US to those other European countries where there is significant gun ownership and not only Luxenbourg or Russia which have had increased crime rates for a good while now?  All those other European countries mentioned in this article have gun control measures significantly stricter than here in the US.  You guys would be bitching up a storm if you had to go thru what they do there to own firearms.  And guess what?  Their murder rates are less than half of what they are here.

     

    Murder rate per 100,000

     

    Norway 2.2

    Finland 1.6

    Germany 0.8

    France 1.0

    USA    4.7

     

    Please tell me what you mean by you guys, Gun-owners? The Un-wanted NY'ers Cuomo spoke of? please tell us what you mean by you guys. Are you not Pro-Gun or are you confused and are you Pro-hunting but Anti-Gun, if so how long do you think you have that privilege to hunt without your right to bare arms. Boy I just can't see how that works for you. Are you just wanting to own what you think and see is ok as a firearm & tell us guys what we can & can't Have.  

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    Tim McGraw to Headline Anti-Gun Concert in Connecticut

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    Read this study it will get your facts straight.

     

    Harvard gun study concludes gun bans don’t reduce the murder rate
    posted at 3:21 pm on August 28, 2013 by Bruce McQuain
     
     

    In fact, it appears, bans may actually see them increase. Here’s a summary of the study’s findings:

    The Harvard study attempts to answer the question of whether or not banning firearms would reduce murders and suicides.  Researchers looked at crime data from several European countries and found that countries with 
    HIGHER
     gun ownership often had 
    LOWER
     murder rates.

    Russia, for example, enforces very strict gun control on its people, but its murder rate remains quite high.  In fact, the murder rate in Russia is 
    four times higher 
    than in the “gun-ridden” United States, cites the study. ”Homicide results suggest that where guns are scarce other weapons are substituted in killings.” In other words, the elimination of guns does not eliminate murder, and in the case of gun-controlled Russia, murder rates are quite high.

    The study revealed several European countries with significant gun ownership, like Norway, Finland, Germany and France – had remarkably low murder rates. Contrast that with Luxembourg, “where handguns are totally banned and ownership of any kind of gun is minimal, had a murder rate 
    nine times higher 
    than Germany in 2002.

    The study found no evidence to suggest that the availability of guns contributes to higher murder rates anywhere in the world.  ”Of course, it may be speculated that murder rates around the world would be higher if guns were more available. But there is simply no evidence to support this.”

    And, as the study points out, where guns are banned, murderers still find weapons with which to do their dirty work.  The difference is that the victims potential means of self-defense.  With guns available, one would assume their deterrent effect if not outright effectiveness in the self-defense realm would predictably knock the murder rate down.  Criminals and murderers are less likely to attack if the possibility the potential victim is armed exists.  Common sense 101.

    The study found no evidence to suggest that the availability of guns contributes to higher murder rates anywhere in the world.  ”Of course, it may be speculated that murder rates around the world would be higher if guns were more available. But there is simply no evidence to support this.”

    And finally:

    Further, the report cited, “the determinants of murder and suicide are basic social, economic, and cultural factors, not the prevalence of some form of deadly mechanism.”  Meaning, it’s not guns that kill people.

    People kill people.

    Well how about that?  The study is published in Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy.  You can read it here.  Pass it around to your anti-gun friends.  Point out this isn’t some right-wing think tank that pumped out the study.  Then appeal to their common sense.  Of course that may be difficult to do with someone who actually believes that the simple act of banning a weapon will magically lower the murder rate because without that weapon, people just wouldn’t murder each other … or something.

    ~McQ

    Blogging at QandO

    Tim McGraw to Headline Anti-Gun Concert in Connecticut

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    You guys are a freaking riot.  So teachers should be armed?  Our schools will look like something out of the Nazi era, where you had armed SS officers indoctrinating the young,

     

    As far as illegal weapons, I have yet to hear that guns were sold to bad guys directly from the backdoors of the Smith&Wesson, Colt, Ruger, etc. manufacturing plants.  As far as I know most ALL weapons enter the market LEGALLY.  What happens after they reach a legal owner??  Your guess is as good as mine, since in many states you can even sell pistols privately without any sort of background check.  Whether you want to accept it or not, guns end up falling into criminal hands from original LEGAL purchasers.   With the mish-mash of laws that don't require private sales to go thru background checks, this can most certainly be expected.

    The Nazi's you really want to go there fine. If only all people in Nazi Germany had all been armed, not just the SS and the elitist's. Now if only the German people had founding fathers to have given them the great gift of guidelines in writing. If only the Germans would of not trusted the Government so much and had challenged it, maybe no WWII. All men are created equal, and this great thing called the Constitution/Bill of rights and the good old 2nd Amendment comes with great responsibility. I'm not saying just teachers should be armed if the choose if that's how you took it, All Americans who want to exercise there right to self protection and there personal effects should. Now if your Mentally unfit than NO, but only with due process shall that right be stricken. All weapons enter legally, but end up in the wrong hands by criminal activity. Now The DOJ put Legal guns into the wrong hands, Fast & Furious comes to mined. We live in a dangerous world and the only way to even the odds is be better armed and prepared. Now Common sense has to come into play when anyone has a gun in the home. Guys its really is interesting how come NYS is in such a mess, people mistake rights for privilege. Question quick answer gunmen is shooting in your child's school going from room to room would you want a GUN quick answer as fast as you read it, its to late its over If your gun was on you you had a chance. I think I'll keep my gun close to me thank you, do what you want under your roof but don't go taken my rights away.

    Tim McGraw to Headline Anti-Gun Concert in Connecticut

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    I guess I didn't realize I was talking to an expert on the gun trade. My point still stands, what headline sounds better? Illegal gun used in murder or the one taken from parent?

     

    If the kid has access to a key or the combination, that's not necessarily a gun safe now is it? Don't be silly when you know my point is valid. Making the guns INACCESSIBLE to kids is what needs to happen.

     

     

    Do you have kids? There's no freaking way I want a teacher with a gun on her hip... and despite what you and your small circle of friends think, there's no way that ever happens.

     

    I'm ok with armed guards. Many inner city schools already have them. But don't bitch when your taxes go up. Hell I paid over $3k for school taxes in NY. These armed guards aren't free. I'd write the check; but would you?

    Yes I have Kids and one will be teaching school soon. Who are you to say who should have a gun or better yet exercise their Constitutional Rights. I don't like some of your 1st Amendment Exercise but I respect them, you have that right. The main reason you have that right You got it Good Guys with Guns. Taxes are high for BS Laws like Safe Act and give outs, but one I would not mind writing the check for would be protection of Our Children. Now small Circle of Friend are you sure its a Small circle or small thinking on your part. I see the Party of Tolerance poking out. Hey My daughter (Future Teacher) is a dead shot been shooting her whole life and she would not be so easily a victim if People woke up. If I was her I'd carry and weigh the options good or bad later, Who would of Cried Gun Control if a Teacher would of put a bullet in Lanzers head before his 1st shot, We will never know because people of your mindset think guns are for hunting.

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