NY's Gun Registration & Fee Scam

[Mr VJP]

There  is a bill in NY State that has been proposed, but is most likely not  going anywhere, that would force all gun owners to register every gun  they have with model, serial # and lots of personal information.  The  bill calls for a $15 fee on every gun to register it, then $10 a year to  keep it.

Imagine the stupidity of the elected moron who proposed this legislation.  Here's why.

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Haynes v. U.S.  (309 U.S. 85 (1968)) that since felons are prohibited from owning  firearms, compelling them to register their guns would violate their  Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination.  In addition, this  ill-conceived legislation would constitute a substantial state tax on  gun ownership. 

Historically, these failed registration schemes have  also been very costly for jurisdictions to maintain, and they have been  completely ineffective.  Registration is a dangerous step toward  confiscation and an assault on the Second Amendment.

How did this fool get elected in the first place?  Perhaps he was supported by Bloomberg?

[bpb]

Sponsor: ADAMS / Co-sponsor(s): SERRANO / Committee: CODES / Law Section: Penal Law

  S2994-2011 Actions 

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  S2994-2011 Memo[pre]BILL NUMBER:S2994    TITLE OF BILL:  An act  to amend the penal law, in relation to the registration of firearms    PURPOSE:  The purpose of this bill is to provide for the registration of  firearms by the owner thereof at the county clerks office of the  county where the owner resides, except in New York City.    SUMMARY OF PROVISIONS:  This bill incorporates a new section into the New York State Penal  Law. �400.02 will state that any person who owns a firearm in New  York State needs to register that firearm every year. Along with the  annual registration of firearms, there will be other requirements  that firearms owners will have to meet in order to legally possess  firearms in New York State.    The registration of firearms will be done by mail or if you are  residing within a city it may be done at a precinct. This  registration should include the description of the firearm, meaning  any serial numbers on the firearm, owner's name, address and phone  number. The location of where the firearm will be located when it is  not in use should also be incorporated into this registration.  Also note that a ten dollar fee would be charged for the registration  of a firearm. Photo identification will be given to the register  owner after he/she has registered their firearm. In this photo  identification the description of the firearm will be included.    PRIOR LEGISLATIVE HISTORY:    04/07/08 Referred to Codes  02/26/09 Referred to Codes  01/06/10 Referred to Codes    JUSTIFICATION:  Through the use of an annual firearm registration, we are able to have  better tracking supervision of the firearms circulating in New York  State. There are many firearms that are illegally possessed in New  York State but by implementing a constant registry of firearms we can  come a step closer to identifying those illegal firearms. Also with  this annual registration of firearms, firearm owners are better  protected by law if the firearm is stolen or lost and something  unfortunately happens with their particular firearm.    FISCAL IMPLICATIONS:  None.    LOCAL FISCAL IMPLICATIONS:  None.    EFFECTIVE DATE:  On the 120th day after it shall have become a law.      [/pre]  S2994-2011 Text[pre] S T A T E  O F  N E W  Y O R K 

2994

2011-2012 Regular Sessions  I N  SENATE  February 4, 2011 

Introduced  by  Sens.  ADAMS, SERRANO -- read twice and ordered printed,  and when printed to be committed to the Committee on Codes 

AN ACT to amend the penal  law,  in  relation  to  the  registration  of  firearms

THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK, REPRESENTED IN SENATE AND ASSEM  BLY, DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:

  Section 1. The penal law is amended by adding a new section 400.02  to  read as follows:

  S 400.02 REGISTRATION OF FIREARMS; FEES; RENEWALS.  1.  EVERY OWNER OF A FIREARM SHALL PRESENT BY MAIL OR OTHERWISE TO THE  CLERK OF THE COUNTY WHEREIN HE OR SHE RESIDES AN APPLICATION FOR  REGIS  TRATION  OF  SUCH  FIREARM.  FOR  OWNERS  RESIDING IN A COUNTY CONTAINED  ENTIRELY WITHIN A CITY, SUCH APPLICATION SHALL BE MADE AT  THE  PRECINCT  STATION  SERVING  THE  AREA WHEREIN SUCH OWNER RESIDES. SUCH APPLICATION  SHALL CONTAIN A BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF  EACH  FIREARM  TO  BE  REGISTERED,  INCLUDING ANY SERIAL NUMBER THEREON, THE OWNER'S NAME, ADDRESS AND PHONE  NUMBER,  AND THE LOCATION WHERE THE FIREARM IS TO BE LOCATED WHEN NOT IN  USE. WITH RESPECT TO A NEWLY ACQUIRED  FIREARM,  THE  APPLICATION  SHALL  INCLUDE WHERE AND HOW SUCH FIREARM WAS ACQUIRED.  2.  UPON  RECEIPT  OF A SUFFICIENT APPLICATION, THE REGISTERING OFFICE  SHALL PROVIDE THE APPLICANT WITH A REGISTRATION UPON PAYMENT OF A FEE OF  FIFTEEN DOLLARS FOR EACH FIREARM REGISTERED.  3. A PERMANENT RECORD OF SUCH REGISTRATION SHALL BE MAINTAINED BY  THE  REGISTERING  OFFICE, AND THE FIREARM OWNER SHALL BE ISSUED A PHOTO IDEN  TIFICATION POCKET CARD INDICATING THE FIREARM  HAS  BEEN  REGISTERED  TO  SUCH OWNER.  4.  SUCH  REGISTRATION  SHALL  BE  RENEWED  EACH YEAR FOR A FEE OF TEN  DOLLARS. WHENEVER THE REGISTERED OWNER SHALL GIVE, SELL, LOSE OR  OTHER  WISE  CEASE  TO  POSSESS  THE REGISTERED FIREARM, THE REGISTERING OFFICE  SHALL BE MADE AWARE OF SUCH TERMINATION OF POSSESSION.  EXPLANATION--Matter in ITALICS (underscored) is new; matter in brackets  [ ] is old law to be omitted.  LBD07551-01-1

  S. 2994                            2  5. WILLFUL FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THIS SECTION SHALL  BE A MISDEMEANOR.  S 2. This act shall take effect on the one hundred twentieth day after  it shall have become a law.  [/pre]

[Mr VJP]

I've already decided my response to this illegal legislation should it pass.

"I WILL NOT COMPLY!"

Where there is a will, there is a dead man.

;D

[2BRKnot2B]

If the felon doesn't have to comply, why should the law abiding citizen. This is a de facto provision to register legal gun owners (those without prior conviction(s)). To what purpose since they are the least likely to commit crimes. Therein lies the argument. How is registration of law abiding citizens going to prevent, limit, preclude, destroy the ability to commit crime? Since all these laws were advanced to promote the "ideal" that they would lessen the incidence, and since they have not, why should we comply? Why should we even support such laws? Why do we not ask our politicians to not support these intrusions, encroachments, inroads, hindrances, violations of the second amendment?