Last year i shot a nice 8 three times with the bow first shot blow thru behind the shoulder at 18 yds it then it came in to 12 yds another blow thru lung area stayed there i got another arrow shot again low skimming his chest he just looked around came to the base of my stand i mean under my stand stood there for 10 minutes looking around walked about 8 to 10 yards bedded down , looking down the hill i was out of arrows and still had two hours of light left so i sat in the stand just watching him i got down at dark i could still see him he was 10 yards from me i could see his rack moving around i got out of there and went up the next morning and he was 60 yards down the hill.