Glats109

Little more info on the property... I have a 2 acre food plot. In the early season I had plenty of deer sightings but 90 percent of them within the half hour before sundown. Once the third weekend of october hit and the days got shorter it was like a switch hit and we started seeing nothing. I do not live on the property so I'm not there very often. The other day i was so angry that i got a spot light (no gun) and climbed into a viewing stand i have that is over looking the food plot. From 345 AM to 6 am i saw 10 deer in and out of the food plot. Once the sun started to come up they were gone. I sit on the trails that i follow in the snow coming to and from the plot, and i see literally nothing...

Need some help . The deer on my property are completely nocturnal . I pull around 2-300 pictures a week on my plot all at night but will see nothing during the day . I can't take much more of this

Where abouts are you located

Does anyone know of any consultants in the Catskills?

I aged the first buck as a much older buck also with just a smaller rack. I agreed on 2 1/2 for the second

Both of them?

Age please

Be careful with the throw and grow packages you buy. I know alot of them are compassed of Rye Grass which is commonly mistaken for winter rye. Rye grass is a strang of lawn gross, it pops up almost anywhere and creates a green illusion that most of us think is a good looking food plot, its not. Its not very palatable to deer. You may see some deer in there but it is because they are eating the other 40 percent of ingredients which I can guarantee will be a mix of clover, oats or rye and a small amount of Brassica I think the evolved harvest bag is good but wouldnt be sure. For best bet look on online or order from Welter Seed Co in Iowa a mixture of Ladino Clovers, Rye and a small amount of Purple Top Turnips. Good luck

was looking to see how much more there antlers would develop. I have a 3 on 1 side rule, so I think they may be next years deer

And this is crab claw... I wonder if the first buck shown is this guy...hope not

This is a small buck from last year that I have pictures of up to 12/10 so im thinking he may have survived

This is a guy i have on camera constantly, i think hes a old dear with bad genetics.

Are these trees any good for deer? Golden Raindrop Crab Apple

Im in the catskills we dont usually have very many big bucks. Anything 6 or better probably wont survive the gun season unless hes real stealthy. These two bucks keep showing up...will they grow more or just little 2 year olds?

Went up to the camp this weekend since I had a break off from work and got some planting done. First frost for me has come in late September the past few years and I had the time with the thunderstroms coming tomorrow. Planted Lickcreek Mix. Because we do a lot of bow hunting and clover was so thick we went 50 % clover 25 % Grasses 25% brassica. We rototilled the entire new plot area. Fertilized with 46-0-0 and the 6-24-24 planted and cultipacked. We actually used a lawn roller off of amazon that you fill with water as a cultipacker and it worked great. Here is a picture of me spraying the clover with cleth and a view of the grasses plot in the back. there is a variety of 10 apple trees below where this picture ends. They are still fenced off and are starting to produce fruit Here is a shot of the brassica plot that has crab apples running throughout it. We sprayed the bases of the crab apples and fertilized accordingly. And finally here is a gun stand that we built overlooking the plots Deer are showing up more often and looking fatter than ever just need to start seeing some mass.

Four wheel drive for groundhog is a must

Ive read that a few places. Was my overall plan to do half brassica half grains and atlernate them next year. Any other tips?

Thanks for the replies. Yes I have a camera on two sides of the plot. In year one, the plot had a lot of deer in it but almost everything was at night. Maybe 8-12 different spikes and a few decent bucks. The nicest buck was taken by my neighbor. This year since the clover has grown so much Ive had pictures of both day and night. I do have a doe raising 2 fawns in the plot which seems like a great sign for the future. Ill try to get some pictures up. As far as a sanctuary goes. I don't have an actual thick area that is designed as a sanctuary but the area to the left of my picture is hardwoods that we do not hunt. We have no stands in there and don't really go in there for any reason, so I guess we can call that the sanctuary. As far as the expansion in the plot do you guys think beets and winter grains is the way to go or do you recommend anything else.

So Ive decided to take some pictures and start this thread to log my progress as a novice plotter.... Backround: My family owns around 22 acres in the Catskill Mountains of new York. The area used to be a big dairy farm area but most of the farmers have since been subsidized by uncle sam and the deer population is feeling the effects. So last summer I decided to start my own QDM plan... * Fortunatly my county is an Antler Restriction county so it is illegal to shoot any deer with less than 3 on one side... This is my property. The front area will not be plotted. The second field has since undergone a lot of work. Year 1: Had woods thinned out by logger with biology degree to improve habitat Planted 10 apples trees 4 dunston chestnuts and 4 crab apples Fall planted 1 acre of Antler King Clover with Chicory additive (the long green plot in second field) The area with the blue lines is where I planted the apple trees. I plan to expand the existing plot another acre so it will be, just as long but much wider (it will be on both sides of the existing cedar trees that you can see in the picture... Since this was our first year we had a farmer friend till the land... I wasn't very impressed with the results, this is how it came out after its fall planting. No lime or fertilizer was used in this year, it was planted Aug 1 and this was the result... We weren't very pleased in this year... We were just starting off, this year I came back much more determined.... Started off the year by frost seeding the plot with some more clover and chicory in early March. I decided that this year ( With the help from this site) I would expand the plot into LC's mix. I went and got my soil test it came back 5.9, so I went and got 2 tons of lime and when I started to spray it in late april, I started to notice a lot of clover.... So, I decided to take a ton of the lime I had and spread it on the existing clover plot. It was time to get a tractor.... So after much debate I ended up picking up a Allis Chalmers 5020. Since then I have obtained a chisel plow, a disk, a sprayer for the atv, a lime spreader and a mower. So then begain the plowing experiment.... I have no tractor experience so all of this has been a learning process with my two buddies. Its been very hard not to rush but the excitement is sometimes hard to overcome. Our soil is very rocky and more of a clay based soil, its drains ok. After a lot of hard work and pass after pass (and a few wheelys on the tractor) we were able to start seeing what we thought should look like a food plot! I know its early to be planting but we wanted to get a head start on turning over the soil while we had the free weekends. We plan on planting mid july because the local farmers records show the first frost coming in late September. I went up to the cabin three weeks ago to check on my cameras and mess around on the tractor and boy was I surprised at the progress of the clover! What a huge difference the past 8 months have made! Im so happy I gave it a chance to grow. I plan on mowing and fertilizing it in mid june. The soil we turned over for the new LC mix area started to take on some new weeds. You can see the plot here... the left side is the existing clover and right side is the north eastern portion of the plot where we plan on putting LC brassica mix. ( unsure of what that red patch of weeds on the left is, need to spray with cleth soon) Just recently went up again to mow , spray and fertilize (0,0, 60) Looking forward to tilling over other side next month with the fall plot (Lickcreek mix)

I HUNTED LONG ISLAND OCTOBER 1st and WAS ASSAULTED BY THESE THINGS!!!!!!!!! DEATH TO CHIGGERS! These things almost dont make hunting worth it if they are going to feast on your flesh for a few days

Been doing alot of work to the property this year. So far 4 Crab Apple trees (they took) And recently just planted 4 Dunston Chestnut trees. Ive attached pictures of the foodplot we plant. Antler King Clover Max and Chicory. I havent seen much activity in the field but It looks like its pretty beat down. If you look at the second picture I can see grass starting to break threw but I cant tell if this is how my plot is supposed to look or not? Secondly, Im looking to plant more trees anyone have any suggestions?

Oh my god acorns non stop every 5 minutes boom boom boom acorns. Lol i guess itll be good when they decide to eat them

Oh my god acorns non stop every 5 minutes boom boom boom acorns. Lol i guess itll be good when they decide to eat them

How do deer like the crab apples?

Thanks for the help Elite. The farmer that helped us was paid. I dont have the time with work to get up there enough over the summer to spray plant rototill etc. Antler King consists of: Red Clover, Ladino Clover, Aslike Clover, Dwarf Rape Seed, Chicory How often should i mow it? The plants are around 3 weeks old and are about 6-8 inches?