DOC and bushnell I appreciate your inputs and will definitely take them in to consideration for this years hunts. I guess I do seem to feel more comfortable when hunting on my property or property that I have hunted on since a youth. But I do agree it is true that you never can really know who is trespassing and anything can happen. As far as the good ole boys comment I to agree that a range is the only true place where the target and beyond is a definite, I was thinking more along the lines of that I know the general area where my friends are going to be and that they know the area I will be. We communicate exstensively and all though there is always the potential for an accident we are pretty careful to make sure that we watch out for each other.