Caveman

July 25, 2014

I know what you're saying Pygmy. I think a concern that people have though is less about idiots lobbing tons of lead at once--I almost fell victim to this moronic behavior my first year hunting and I don't want to think about what would have happened if I hadn't hit the deck--I think for the general public the concern is the increased effective distance of a rifle. If you aren't sure of your backstop, or shoot uphill at a target, there is a greater danger to the people some distance away washing their cars. Obviously it's improbable that the round will miss every tree and potential backstop between your target and the victim, but it does happen occasionally. When it does, you can bet the media keys in on the "high-powered rifle" that was used. Obviously that can still happen with a shotgun, and idiots are idiots no matter what's in their hands. But idiots + a round that's lethal at 1000 yards + a heavily populated and/or flat county = people get nervous.

July 24, 2014

I think the saddest part about the whole debate is that it would be an almost non-issue to the general public (and therefore the lawmakers) if every hunter put responsibility and safety first. I, and the people I hunt with, have passed on plenty of deer that we wanted to take because the shot was not 100% safe for some reason. Too many people get excited at the sight of a deer and all the gun safety rules go out the window. Obviously there would still be the occassional accident. There's no way to be 100% safe. And obviously there would still be a small fringe element that is irrationally frightened by a rifle in a way that they're not by a shotgun. But I feel like it would be less of an uphill battle if more people just used their heads.

That being said, congrats to Albany County. You couldn't have passed this law during the three years that I lived there and hunted Berne with a muzzleloader during gun season?

July 24, 2014

State Parks often have special rules so I would not be surprised to hear that. My question was specific to state forests and WMA's so there's the difference. I asked my cousin, a Lt. in the NYS Forest Rangers, and emailed the Region 9 office to double check.

I would shoot off a quick email to your regional headquarters and print off their response and carry it with you.

July 24, 2014

I've gone squirrel hunting as recent as Oct-Nov of 2013. Target shooting in never allowed on state land unless at a designated range in as far as i know. However there is a range set up on the lowest of the logging roads the left most as you come into the (new forge road) parking lot. I've never used it. My impression is that most people don't bother going into the back end of this state land parcel. I'm planning on scouting the other parking lot on county route 10 this august while fishing the stream there.

BTW the new forge road bridge is being replaced access is from another road check your atlas!

To the contrary, I got an email from the DEC when I asked that said target shooting is always allowed on state land as long as you don't harm living trees or break any other state or local laws relating to discharging a firearm (i.e. shooting near buildings or over roads).

Edit: also forgot you can't litter such as shooting clay pidgeons or glass bottles, etc.

July 23, 2014

I think while he makes good points when he debates, and you can't accuse him of not being outspoken, he does it in such a way that regardless of what he's actually saying he alienates a lot of people who are undecided. I think you can make the points he makes in a more diplomatic way and accomplish a lot more in terms of public opinion. Whether we like it or not, that's what's going to determine the future of gun/hunting rights.

That being said, Stranglehold is about the only song of his I can listen to.

July 19, 2014

Unfortunately its not your Daddy's Democrat party anymore. Reasonable minded moderate democrats have become the exception.

I don't dispute that. Nor do I dispute that the original post is an awful idea. I just think it needs to be admitted that the same can be said about either party. Once you really look at it, there's no real difference between the two.

July 19, 2014

That's a wide net you just cast.

July 18, 2014

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,

With conquering limbs astride from land to land;

Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand

A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame

Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name

Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand

Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command

The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.

"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she

With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Now it reads "No Vacancy"

July 18, 2014

That's a damn good 9 holes, Bubba. Extrapolate and that's a +8 round. Me and my 27 handicap are jealous.

July 16, 2014

It probably knew it only had a few short years before it would be on your dinner table. Decided to go out on its terms.

July 16, 2014

Sorry to resurrect this thread after 6 months but what was your impression of the tonawanda? I'm in Amherst and always looking for nearby places to check out.

July 15, 2014

Yeah what he said. This is a free country you are allowed to say what you like and read what you like. If you dont like it then dont read it. No one makes you read it. Get sick of people who try to censor things just because it doesnt agree with there views. No one is ever going to tell me what I can and cannot say and I let them know it right up front when they try to stop me.

Censorship would be telling you that you can't post your opinions. What people are suggesting is a way to opt out of having threads that don't interest them filling up the recent posts list. Two very different things.

July 15, 2014

I don't even mean stopping at political posts. Provided it's actually possible, why not allow users to select what forums and sub-forums they want to see new posts from?

What would be so bad about people being able to customize their experience on the forum, Bubba?

July 15, 2014

Here I go...brightening up that red target on my back again...lol

Do not kid your self that new "lurking members " go away due to the "packing of" political posts ...It is the nasty replies. The name calling, the BS that they draw...Same story just a differrent section and the story is narrated by pretty much the same few members replies...It doesn't make a tinkers damn bit of differance whether it be a political forum, general chat,harvest forums,management,or trail cams there is always something. The name calling ...not believing pics...stories...not liking plotters ...weapons...ppl that use guided hunts..ect..ect..ect.I mean really If you think it is just the, "political Flavor of the month " , that would keep a new member at bay,well your dilutional...They could spend their lunch hour in a high school cafiteria and get the same experience.

No not anyone should expect polyanna replys to all posts...nor should they expect they have to step through a land mined feild any time they post...and as I stand by...its a relative few members...Just like it's a few members that post political stuff...which has now due, to nasty replies, I will take a guess here...has increased their posting. Well thats my veiw on it and who gives a crap...lol

I have to agree with this for the most part. I joined this forum at the very beginning, when it was first created. I only have a few posts here. Why? Almost every thread in this forum turns into a few members bashing each other. And typically it goes beyond just a friendly debate, it gets downright nasty. Of course, political discussions tend to invite this type of atmosphere, but it's not confined to politics. Just about about anything gets the ball rolling. Crossbows, food plots, antler restrictions, QDM, rifle or shotgun, rifle-caliber "pistols," fenced hunting reserves, the list goes on and on. Of course, not everyone is guilty of this. I'm sure if you really look at it it's the same handful of members again and again. However, it gives the impression of this forum as a whole as a very negative place. If anything is going to scare away lurking newbs, it's the fact that this entire forum comes across as Grow very accurately put it, like a high-school cafeteria.

As to the original discussion, would there be a way that you could opt out of having the political threads in the new posts section. That way people can choose for themselves.

October 13, 2013

Stripped bare