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7 minutes ago, Nytracker said:
Suspension straps .
Sorry man, I’m a bit of a smart ass :-)
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21 hours ago, Shoots100 said:
Exactly why you need a descender system.
No matter the harness, your still hanging in a tree.
First I’ve seen of this product. Looks like a great system!
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On 12/14/2021 at 9:49 PM, Nytracker said:
Suspension strap is a must . Need to have it and learn to deploy it . If he wasn't found for a few hours he could very well have died . Or died from blood clots on the way to hospital . I carry 2 in my vest just incase I drop one .
You carry two blood clots?
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12 hours ago, Moho81 said:
As always thanks for sharing your adventures. You are teaching a lot of people what and what not to do while tracking a shot deer.
Just this year alone we recovered a doe that if not for following your teachings I don't think we would have ever recovered as we would have chased her for miles upon miles. Long story short she was shot in the morning. Tracking began 2 hours later with good blood. 400 yards later we bumped her out of her bed. I immediately suggested backing out and marking last blood at her bed. We went back in 12 hours after the shot and found her only 50 yards away from her first bed still alive but no energy to get up and move. Ends up she was shot in the rear leg and was bleeding pretty decently. Sucks that she had to suffer from a bad shot but she was recovered and didn't go to waste.
Thanks for sharing that…awesome job!
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13 hours ago, 2012_taco said:
Have a great Holiday Tom, I assume you're heading south for the winter? Thanks for the great read !!
Thank you, and the same to you! We arrived in Florida today.
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15 hours ago, crappyice said:
Great stuff as usual! Tons of knowledge shared and the grit of an outdoorsman evident in every little step taken by the pups and handler!
Enjoy the break!
What do you to keep them entertained in the off season? Do they get overly ornery when not able to “work?”
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkWe spend 5-6 months in Florida, so the pups get walked a couple miles a day. It takes a couple weeks after the season before they don’t listen to phone conversations with interest.
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23 hours ago, jperch said:
Thanks for what you do for hunters and thank you for taking the time to report on your adventures with Luna and Kunox. As many have already said, this is my favorite thread.
I like to keep an electronic journal that I’ll be able to look back on when I’m too old and feeble too do it anymore :-). It’s easy to cut and paste and people seem to enjoy it.
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23 hours ago, doebuck1234 said:
I've said it before and will say it again.this is one of the best damn topics every year.love following and love what you guys do!
Thank you! We love doing it!
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23 hours ago, land 1 said:
great season great stories best thing on the site happy xmas and new year
Thanks, and the same to you!
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23 hours ago, suburbanfarmer said:
But there is this week and then last week of December? I want more stories from this journal
I live in the northern zone and we are completely finished here. Actually, I arrived in Florida today :-)
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Well, that’s a wrap! The good Lord willing we’ll be back next season. Thanks for coming along for the ride everybody!
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12/9/21
They had a few drops of blood in the 30 yards he was in the field, then couldn’t find where it went into the woods. After the hunter (he’s color blind) and a friend grid searched for an hour, I got a call. Luna got on it in the field, then picked a trail and entered the woods. About 40 yards in, she showed me some blood and never looked back. 200 hundred yards in and there he was about 20 yards ahead of us in heavy brush. I couldn’t shoot because Luna was out ahead of me, so I started reeling her in and called for the guys behind me to catch up and take her, but the buck took off before that happened. We saw him 3 more times, but he stayed out of handgun range. It appeared he had an injury in the rear hindquarter. At 1400 yards we had a property line issue and had to call the track.
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Luna and I were called last night and asked to track what was believed to be a liver or gut shot doe. We agreed on a meeting time for this morning. Luna quickly took us to last blood, then started working the small area that had been grid searched. After a couple of minutes, she picked a line and led us right to the dead doe. The total track was 400 yards. The shot was a little far back, but the deer had been quartering away and the exit hole was showed it must have caught lung. I didn’t have time to stay for the autopsy.
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Luna and I went to track either a 6 or 8 pointer that had been shot last night with a muzzleloader. Luna quickly took us to last blood, did a little searching where the hunter and his friend had looked, then picked a line. We had only gone a few hundred yards when we hit another area that had been walked around in. This one took longer for Luna to figure out, but eventually she led us to a big bedding and swampy area. The hunter made a comment about if he was a betting man, this is where he thought it would have gone. Luna worked the area extensively, but we never found the buck. They only had a few drops of blood last night, and we didn’t see any at all on this track.
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1 hour ago, Fletch said:
Well done! I hope the drag was not 3.7 miles! We’d of been eating a few pounds at that fire lol..
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkNope, we were only 800 yards from a road. He ended up getting a wheeler in there after I left.
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On 12/2/2021 at 3:37 PM, left field said:
And yet you speak in such absolutes. It must be weird having that kind of doublethink rattle around your head. Orwell would be proud.
Overreacting when it comes to omicron?
Holy shit, the overreach!
How about NY declaring a state of emergency over it. If that’s not an overreaction, I don’t know what is!
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12/3/21
Kunox and I had quite the adventure today! I was called by a hunter that had shot a nice buck late yesterday afternoon in the mountains. He had tracked it following a steady bloodtrail, and at 800 yards in heavy cover he was within 10 yards off it before it took off. He decided at that point to back out for the night and called me.
We arrived at 7:30 this morning with 24 degrees and a 14 mph wind. The hunter got us going on the track, then went to reposition the truck, and we met at last blood. Kunox kept right on trucking from that point, showing us a little blood here and there under last night’s snow. At one point we had about a 35 minute delay when we had a property line issue and no cell service. The hunter walked out and spoke with the landowner and was granted permission to enter. We did not find a bed until the 2.37 mile mark. Shortly after that we found 3 more close together. The last one had fresh blood leading away from it, and from that point on the trail could be followed quickly and easily. Twice we saw the buck in shooting range, but no shot was available due to thick cover. Somewhere along the way, Kunox had lost a bootie and cut his paw on the jagged ice, so I took one off another paw to put on there to protect it. Unfortunately he cut that paw too….nothing serious. At this point he became a passenger and I carried him the rest of the day. The fresh blood from the bucks wounded rear leg was very easy to follow, as was the drag mark which started from the last bed. When I picked Kunox up, I moved the hunter to the front with his rifle. At the 3.7 mile mark, the hunter spotted the buck bedded down and was able to put him out of his misery. Kunox was shivering badly so we got a fire going to warm him up before the drag/hike out. I needed to carry Kunox, so the hunter had to drag by himself, and while dragging through a swampy area, he stepped in a hole and wrenched his knee. Shortly after that, we decided to hang the buck in a tree and hike out. Kunox was not happy with our decision, but he said goodbye to HIS buck. Kunox weighs 24 pounds, and I think 23 pounds of him is heart!
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15 hours ago, land 1 said:
ok great job on the track another win for the pup,,,and i get it was a young hunter and i dont care that he killed a doe but even as a young hunter many many years ago i and young guys i hunted with always ID the target, it happens but should not....i hoping the hunting party accepted responsabilty and was ok that u called the dec u did the right thing
He’s was good about it. He definitely learned to identify the target before shooting!
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7 hours ago, mlammerhirt said:
Soooo. Do you suggest they call....do you call and report if they refuse??
What if they said it wasn't the deer they shot at?
This situation seems it could have gotten a little hairy but in the end the hunter did the right thing.
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If the hunter had said that I would have to accept that. I hated being put in this position! I would lose my tracking license for a game violation. It’s not going to happen.
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12/2/21
Luna and I had a very short, but interesting track this morning. 250 yards in 7 minutes and we had the young hunters deer. The buck he shot at as it ran away from him at last light had somehow turned into a doe overnight. She had bedded 5 or 6 times as the hunter and his buddies tracked it, then they lost it and grid searched for an hour before calling for a dog.
Several pieces of bone were found on the track, and we learned she had been hit in the back leg, then guts.
Unfortunately, the hunter didn’t have a doe tag and I was forced to call the DEC. They took the deer and the young man will most likely be fined.
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11/29/21
This morning Kunox and I tracked a buck that had been shot 20 hours earlier.
The hunter had only tracked 50 yards when he had a property line issue and backed out. He was on light blood for that 50 yards. Kunox initially took me into a standing corn field, but he wasn’t acting sure, so we did a restart at last blood. This time he took a trail that we had just seen a live doe on, so after letting him go a while and not seeing any evidence of the buck, back for another restart. The third time, he deviated slightly from the second trail and started tracking confidently and showed us a drop of blood about 50 yards from last blood. We continued a long way without seeing any blood, but suddenly Kunox went hot and I could clearly smell a buck. We continued in pursuit hoping for sign that we were on the right buck and a few minutes later, there it was…..a drop of blood confirming this was him. He was moving strong, his running track showed he was using all 4 legs. We only saw probably 2 ounces of blood on this entire track and no beds. We ended up going 1.4 miles, but that includes the restarts. This was a successful track….Kunox showed the hunter his deer is alive and well.
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11 minutes ago, Chef said:
My one question to this and not denying you are the expert but I’ve always recovered a one lung and gut shot deer pretty quickly. For a shot to hit a lung and also guts it would have to cut the diaphragm. Wouldn’t this kill pretty quickly.
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkNot always. This pic is blood from a suspected one lung and liver hit and the deer was not found. Unfortunately, no dog was available, but a lot of people grid searched for hours.
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On 11/10/2021 at 10:32 AM, suburbanfarmer said:
Nice job.
Curious to know what happens if tracking is requested after a heavy down pour?
We’ve successfully tracked after an inch of rain. Usually you don’t see much blood, if any at all. The dog is happy though because the moisture enhances the scent.
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5 hours ago, crappyice said:
So many variables which makes the puzzles so complex:
The arrow of the deer that started this thread showed gut-ish shot but now bloody like pic above. More washed out which was due to the arrow not clearly passing through and “cleaning off” some of the arrow as it dropped out.
Blood showed bubbles and spray , arrow showed guts. … assuming a one lung and gut how long do you wait…
My fear with leaving a deer is not really even knowing how long it’s dead. If I shoot at 5:00 ad don’t recover until 7 the next morning AND the deer died shortly after the shot…that a long time for the meat to be cooling down with the guts in there.
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkOne lung and guts I treat as a gutshot. Deer can go a long ways and sometimes survive a one lung hit.
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11/28/21
Luna and I tracked a buck today that displayed a deers’ amazing will to live. Unfortunately for this 7 pointer, he had a tenacious hunter and friends after him. He was shot yesterday afternoon and tracked a mile and a half last night, being bumped from bed to bed. Based on the amount of blood they were seeing, they were convinced he would be found soon, but they finally backed out for the night.
This morning they bumped him out of a bed close to where they had left him. They bumped him all day long, but could never get close enough for a shot due to all the branches hanging low from the weight of snow. This went on for 4 miles, then the blood became very hard to find and they called me.
We started at last blood, 3 hours after the hunter backed out. Luna struggled in the snow a little, but then locked on strong. We ended up finding a bloody bed, then a few more, and then Luna went hot. We ended up going 1200 yards and shooting the buck at about 30 yards. The initial shot was in the shoulder, but the deer was quartering away and never hit vitals.
This hunter earned this buck!
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Treestand Hunter Rescued
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I watched their video and I’m planning on getting one too.