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There has not been any posts about our petition on this site for NINE MONTHS. Since that time this site probably has acquired some new members who would benefit from a dove hunting season. This post is directed at those new people and others unfamiliar with this matter.

 

In the early 1900’s most states banned wild turkey hunting and around 25 banned mourning dove hunting. Most of these bans were reversed between 1970 and 1995. Today, wild turkey hunting is allowed in 49 states and mourning dove hunting is allowed in 41 states.

 

NY’s first modern wild turkey hunting season was in the fall of 1959; one year after the Legislature granted the Conservation Department the authority to regulate turkey hunting. The Legislature has not however, authorized the DEC to set a mourning dove hunting season.

 

Never the less, there is an interest in dove hunting among some NY hunters and mourning dove populations can indeed sustain hunting in NY.

 

NY Dove Hunting was created because it was apparent an organized entity with a long-term strategical approach was needed. One element of our strategy is our online petition.

 

 I am asking persons who are interested in a dove season to sign the online petition at this link:  http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/petition.html

 

After you sign the petition we need your help in getting other hunters to sign it as well. 

 

Many hunters have already signed our petition. The maps below show a steady upward trajectory of support for dove hunting across the state.

 

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