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If you check out the map (http://www.dec.ny.go...mpdmfabndry.pdf), all of the Cornel Properties exist within the Tompkins DMFA...Therefore I believe as long as you are registered with both the Cornel EAB and the Tompkins DMFA you can use the DMFA tags one EAB property and collect the buck tag after you score two doe (and I have gotten HUGE Doe over there). As I stated on my registration survey, the main reason I got these tags is for January hunting...I am so pumped for LATE SEASON!

I have always had the most success near old apple trees. I am always scouting apple trees in the woods, anyone else use this obvious technique? I hunt a public parcel that has an ancient orchard hidden in it (surrounded by a hedge of multiflora rose) and I scored two from my stand there in last years otherwise dismal season. Oh yeah, and I have tons of apples on my property that i press...and I fill several lil spray bottles with concentrated cider and use them as cover scent/scent lure.

Great post and pics guys..looking forward to hunting my oak stands again this year, last year had to be the least I've ever seen. I'll report back when I head out to the oak stands this week. I do have boatloads of apples at my apple tree stands, always another great food source.

Hewitt SF is on Coldbrook Road off 281 north of homer. There is a deer farm at the bottom of the ridge where the State Forest begins, so you will always atleast see some deer on your way in. It is a large parcel for around here with diverse topography and bordered on two sides by large cornfields. Lots of oaks and acorns (except last year) on the ridge. I hunt closer to my lake house mostly these days, but I have seen some very large bucks on that ridge. Also Coldbrook exotic big game preserve is up there, so the feral hogs around here have a lot of Russian bore in them.

As my name indicates I applied for and got 2 7J which I plan on filling like I always do. I love my WMU!!! Oh yeah and if we are counting PA i have 2 DMAPs for #648 in Delaware State forest...So with all those and the unlimited does available in the Tompkins County Deer Management Focus Area (2/day all season and 1/1-1/31) I think I will be eating plenty of doe. Try Hewitt State Forrest.

Got my tags, going over new regulations, and refreshing myself on the old. Plan on visiting the number one hang on stand tomorrow to check to see if needs any maintenance after the meek winter. This week I am washing all my gear in HSS laundry soap and getting the last of my archery gear organized. Keep shooting the bow for 29 more days! I use early archery (this year earlier, YES!) to scout my rutt stands and I will take my climbers out on those combo hunting/scouting missions.

Anyone getting these? 2 does PER DAY all season, PLUS 2 does per day JAN 1 - Jan 31. I am originally from and still hunt PA, and January deer hunting is the one thing I wish we had up here and now we do. All you have to do is apparently register and they will send you carcass tags, and on the website it says that registration numbers will be available in September, but there is no link yet. I also got my 3rd deer last season in Tompkins on the last day or Regular Gun Season...monster doe...lots of big deer over there and there is the "earn a buck" program over there as well (kill 2 does earn an extra buck tag).

I got all 3 of mine in the morning last season...plus it will be easier to get away from the 6month old in the mornings than the evening... Otherwise my handle says it all..7j EVERYDAY! Plan on pickin up the "live from the stand posts" where they left off last season...hopefully with colder days and more sightings! Anyone getting DMFA tags for Tompkins 2 does PER DAY all season, plus JAN 1 - JAN 31 2 does PER DAY! Got my 3rd in Tompkins last day of Regular Gun season last year...lots of big deer over there.

Sorry Sportsman, but if you are getting into screaming matches with guys who claim to be the rightful landowners of private land and only leaving because they outnumber you, then you are lacking in ethics. In LI, Syracuse or Olean, it doesn't matter.

Include some data with your anecdotal report of decreased deer...thats right, you don't have any.

I guess these are more lies I am making about the negative attitude you guys have about how hunting sucks now....it is actually the direct quote from bkln in this very thread.

In the spirit of the season: Hallelujah

Try to understand this paps...I called you and others out for complaining about how things used to be better, then I provided examples: 1. There is less deer movement because of the decline of the dedication of hunters overtime, I provided an example of when you said that. 2. Then I provided an example of someone blaming guys shooting does. 3. Then I showed your post from this thread when you implied that hunting was better because of access to private property without permission and that the hunting land was better before the past 60 years of development (basically saying that if you live in a house built after 1950, you are part of the problem.) 3 clear examples of how the haters on this site love to go back to: Hunting stinks now as compared to when you had more moving hunters in gun season, or when you couldn't shoot does, or didn't need permission to hunt unposted private property. There now I spelled it our for you. I am not all over the place, I am gonna keep calling you out when you guys blame other hunters or progress, or the DEC for your hunting shortcomings.

Okay, here is where you explain why other hunters not hunting enough is a reason for a so-called decline in sightings over years, which is bs, the deer take has been level for 2 decades: Here is one of your cohorts blaming other hunters and doe permits in the same thread, ignoring links to herd data and deer take claiming that data is less believable then all you guys and your anecdotes: Finally I guess you forgot when you wrote this about 1950 and 60 years ago, blah blah blah, you are obviously implying things were better way back when: I think you are the one who needs to calm down, I'm not flamin, I'm butchering my third deer, so I am about out of time for this, thanks for the lively back and forth though elite mod master.

Thanks that is alot of great info...like you said, a little late for fooling around with the mix this season, but I will have good reason to be a range rat this offseason!

Sorry my elite hunting mod master, I will take back the quotation marks in my overgeneralized thesis of what I have been hearing from you and others around here: Hunting stinks now, it used to be better back when, and oh yeah, if you are living in a house built after 1950 or shooting does its your fault. I'm no troll trying to find a fight, I have way more posts (i know its a measly 75) just giving an update of conditions live from the stand, or put in my experience using doe estrus, or asked for advice about ML hunting. The only time I get in a beef its with one of you guys spewing theories with no stats, and then when stats are provided for them, you explain why those stats are no good. You may not fall into every specific generalization here, but almost every time you post it is about how great it all used to be, well I'll tell you I get more deer now in both PA and NY then I did in the 1990's, but that is just another useless anecdote, so who cares. Again, you shifted this conversation to some bs story you have concocted....I made some cogent points about hunting on private property without permission and the merits of mandated posters.

I agree that I wish more property owners took the "Cooperation Wins" attitude, or that the program existed here in NY like it is does in PA. That said, I like rules, it keeps bandits out of the woods, and bandits are not a part of responsible deer management. People just walking on and off of private land means they have a better chance of poaching deer. I am from PA, graduated from Ithaca College in 2007 here in NY and have lived in NY since...By myself I found where the county (not state, so it does not show up on the interactive maps, therefore it is less used) property that was right by my place. I then scouted deer both through experiences given to me from my dad and grandfather (but only about 2-3 deer hunts a year from the ages of 12-17), but also by doing research in deer biology and habitat and then hunting a ton. So it is quite possible for a novice to begin hunting in NY, and I would argue public property is a much better place to start then on no-mans land. I am not bragging, I am a mediocre hunter, but I never blame progress, the DEC, or other hunters legally shooting deer for my lack of success, and sorry if I take exception to those that do.

I usually only use it heavy during the chase of the primary rut....I am always afraid to overuse stuff, or use it at the wrong time, but I guess there is only one way to find out.

Thanks, this sounds like the method I am going to go with, seems to fit what I already do. Thanks, I plan to use 100 pyrodex with these sst's for the rest of this season, but once I get a lot of time at the range i will be experimenting. Thanks, I am definetly gonna discharge after each outing...I'm accident and WTF proned!

I love how you know I was calling you out without even quoting you. That was the top 1/3, the bottom 2/3's of my response was right on topic thanks. And thanks, but I graduated college with a history degree (specifically the development of NY from 1850-present), I don't need an anecdotal revisionist tale from a guy who is labeled an "Elite Hunter" because he is a mod and posted 3,000 times on a message board. You brought up not only ecological changes, but some bs story you have developed about how much better things used to be (when all statistics point that the inverse is true). I have seen you and others repeatedly turn every other thread into a "THINGS USED TO BE GREAT UNTIL THE DEC AND DOE PERMITS CAME INTO EXISTENCE" which (beyond being TOTAL BS) was the point of giving you the deer tally (my boy = my friend old man, my son is still in my wifes womb for a couple more months), there are plenty of deer in NY right now in 2011. The Original Post is the second part of my response, and the part about Public Land is apt, because if this guy is debating walking onto someones private property (which should be posted by mandate, as it is in PA), he is much better served to find some local public land that is rightfully his to hunt.

Hey guys... I have always just bow hunted in the late season, but I got the ML barrel for my Mossberg 500, going to shoot it in today and tomorrow and hunt with it starting Wednesday. My boy recommended Hornady SST Sabots, which I have already picked up, so that is what I am going to use this season, but other recommendations are welcome. I would really like to know how your hunting process changes with the single shot smoke pole. What type of hunting methods you employ (stand, still), what you would or wouldn't try to shoot through, etc. Also I am really looking for your processes in loading, transporting, lifting into treestands, cleaning between firings, discharging or not at the end of the day etc... Thanks!

They may not spook by the sound (though when they are bedded down hard like they were all November I am sure it doesn't help). I wonder, are you taking the time to keep your clothing scent free, and then stepping onto an open chassis vehicle using an exhaust coughing combustion engine? But I am sure deer don't really use their noses at all. Next season I am gonna quit using scent eliminator and just pour gasoline all over myself before I get in the woods.

I love how this went from a thread about the law into getting hijacked into another..."Oh things were so much better 60 years ago." Get over it, between me and my boy we have 9 tagged deer, 8 in NY and 1 in PA this season. If you haven't adapted to the ecological changes in your region then it is your own fault, you have had decades of gradual change to adapt. Back to the actual point of the OP. Maybe if NY wasn't backasswards about landowners being obligated to Post we wouldn't have any confusion...again, such is the case in PA, a place you cranky old timers would really hate to hunt. Also in PA landowners are encouraged to post their property with "Cooperation Wins" signs which allow use of the land for things like hunting, fishing, or hiking; but indicates that camping, fires and motor vehicle use beyond gates is still prohibited. DCNR then will patrol those private properties as if they were public. Finally, between my buddy and I we got all but 2 of the 9 deer this season on Public Property, there is plenty of it and plenty of deer on it.