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    The hijacking of the term" Liberalism"

    in Gun and Hunting Laws and Politics Discussions

    Posted · Edited by Papist

     you did not show any respect for my opinion.

     

     

    You are absolutely correct. I have no respect for opinions based on emotional bias, that indicate no real reference to facts or relevant information. Especially when said 'opinions' generally manifest in the form of ad-hominem comment, denigration (such as above) or redirection.

     

    Opinions based on nothing but more opinion are worthless.

     

    Spot on sir.

    The hijacking of the term" Liberalism"

    in Gun and Hunting Laws and Politics Discussions

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    Classical Liberalism Hijacked

     

     

     

    Political and economic collectivist ideology such as Socialism, Fascism, Progressivism and Communism have been words that are usually not very respected and typically looked down upon in America so it is natural to develop other labels that can be used to accomplish the same objectives. It is from this point that “liberalism”, among other words, has become corrupted and manipulated to mean different things, and in fact, opposites. Some claim this an example of ideological evolution but others believe this has been an intentional act of terminological theft.

     

     

     

     

    When Mises argued against anti-liberal policies by saying it is “socialism”, he considered, as I do, that socialism refers to all forms of central economic planning. This includes national socialism (Nazism), fascism, progressivism, Fabian socialism, and communism (international socialism). Historically, the commonly used economic terms include state capitalism, state socialism, planned economy, and industrial policy. In reality, there are many more terms to describe these similar economic policies which, in the end, are all similar attempts at the same Utopian ends. Today, all of this is can be considered to be some form of progressivism in America.

     

     

     

    The outspoken socialist, H.G. Wells, was of the greatest influences on the progressive mind in the twentieth century (and, it turns out, the inspiration for Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World). Wells didn’t coin the phrase as an indictment, but as a badge of honor. Progressives must become “liberal fascists” and “enlightened Nazis,” he told the Young Liberals at Oxford in aspeech in July 1932.

    In 1927 H.G. Wells (An enormous fan of FDR’s New Deal) couldn’t help but notice “the good there is in these Fascists. There is something brave and well-meaning about them.”

     

     

    https://classicalliberalism.wordpress.com/2010/12/29/classical-liberal-quotes/

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    bow string stop/supressor

    in Bow Hunting

    Posted

    My string stop simply prevents my forearm from getting whacked and swollen up. That's all I got it for. I don't have serving on the string. It does get a bit more worn in the area of impact, but 3 seasons in and still going strong with my current string.

    Finding them dead on Long Island.

    in General Chit Chat

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    Braved the thigh deep snow here to investigate a stand of pines near the house. The Deer are using the same tracks I saw  a couple of weeks ago and have packed down the snow on these corridors. Found some beds, thankfully no dead 'uns in them. Saw some very small tracks too. There is a denser stand of hemlock further out, where I suspect the main bedding area to be, but I didn't feel like going too far without snow shoes, and didn't want to push any deer either.

     

    The smell of deer along these tracks was palpable. They must be getting a lot of use and the deer must be close by a lot of the time.

    NY Senator wants to ban machetes.....

    in Gun and Hunting Laws and Politics Discussions

    Posted · Edited by Papist

     

     

    Without getting into the solstice/Christmas details, do you agree that Christianity co-opted some pagan holidays and customs?

     

     

     

     

    Co - opted?  No, not at all. Name some

     

     Customs, with no theological significance, likely were absorbed. 

     

     

    Oh ,and I have no ethical problems with Christian holidays supplanting Pagan festivals.

     

    If you wanna start loving on the Pagans, you have to go full hog and start accepting human sacrifice and other odious practices. I don't buy into 'Pagan-lite'. This is faux paganism. Especially when one is attempting to get into the historical nitty gritty as a basis for argumentation.

    NY Senator wants to ban machetes.....

    in Gun and Hunting Laws and Politics Discussions

    Posted · Edited by Papist

    Yes, many don't know that Christmas orignated as a pagan celebration of the winter soltace. On Decemeber 25th, the Romans celebrated the birth of the "unconquered sun" which was associated with Mithras.  Another pagan tradition is the celebration of "Yule". It is a Waccan celebration.

     

    Great, I was waiting for someone to post this middle school nonsense:

     

    The winter solstice is generally over by Dec 23, at the latest, incidentally.

     

     

     

    The notion that Christmas had pagan origins began to spread in the 17th century with the English Puritans and Scottish Presbyterians, who hated all Catholic things. The Puritans hated Catholicism so much that they revolted against the so-called Anglican church because, even with their heresies, they considered it still too similar to the Catholic Church.

    They abhorred the feast days and in particular, they detested the Christmas feast with its joyous ceremonies, celebrations and customs. Since the Bible gave no specific date of Christ’s birth, the Puritans argued that it was a sinful contrivance of the Roman Catholic Church that should be abolished. 

    Later, Protestant preachers like the German Paul Ernst Jablonski tried to demonstrate in pseudo-scholarly works that December 25 was actually a pagan Roman feast, and that Christmas was yet another instance of how the medieval Catholic Church ‘paganized’ and corrupted ‘pure’ early Christianity. (1) 

     

     

    Christmas established before the pagan Sun festival 

     

     

     

    Second, this claim is based on unsound assumptions. As scholar Thomas Talley points out in his book The Origins of the Liturgical Year, Emperor Aurelian inaugurated the festival of the Birth of the Unconquered Sun trying to give new life – a rebirth – to a dying Roman Empire. It is much more likely, he argues, that the Emperor’s action was a response to the growing popularity and strength of the Catholic religion, which was celebrating Christ’s birth on December 25, rather than the other way around. (3) 

    There is no evidence that Aurelian’s celebration preceded the feast of Christmas, and more reason to believe that establishing this festival day – which never won popular support and soon died out – was an effort to give a pagan significance to a date already of importance to Roman Catholics. 

     

    Full story: http://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/e031rp_PaganOrigins.html

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