[Why not close off some state land on a rotation to have better hunting for deer]

19 minutes ago, Core said:

Again, some spots of land are low on bucks because the hunters there are fighting over scraps as it is. Many will be happy as a clam to even take a single doe, so more restrictions mean lowering their odds of a harvest even further. Now that this year I've been on private land and I have seen what it can be (see deer every time I hunt) it is shocking to me how hard the land I hunted prior two years was to pull deer out 

Had same experience 

[Why not close off some state land on a rotation to have better hunting for deer]

Yes you all make great points but with so much state land around seems reasonable that they could rotate some of them just to see what happens but may be you guys are right they would probably mess it up anyway

[Why not close off some state land on a rotation to have better hunting for deer]

Just wondering why they don't close some state land to hunting for let's say 1 or 2 years then reopen and do the same on a different section just randomally rotate them just to see if it improves things like the size of  bucks taken in those parks .

Has this been tried before?

I always got the impression lots of the state land is  way over hunted . Compared to private land . 

[New NJ State Record]

On 11/16/2017 at 3:41 PM, ANTLERS said:

That record will stand for a long time as the new Governor elect, A big supporter of PETA, has said he's going to impose a moratorium on any future bear seasons in favor of "non lethal" methods. NJ sportsmen are F'd, back to the old days.

Non leathal will not work and That could be good long term for hunters what will happen is the population Will blow up pretty fast and some  jogger will get eaten by one of these  bears once they figure out they don't have to fear man anymore and they will be forced to open the season again . Thats the story with these things .

[can you explain why hunters would want to shorten gun season?]

4 hours ago, Buckmaster7600 said:

I don't think we can compare NY to the Midwest because it's too different. I have hunted the Midwest for 10 years now and the biggest difference is the bucks. I have huge parcels of private land to hunt in NY. And hunt the Adirondacks. Both have little to no hunting pressure. Most Mature NY bucks are ghosts that do 99. ...% of their daily activities in the cover of darkness. A mature Midwest buck acts like a king and spend way more time on their feet in daylight. I don't have scientific evidence of this but on my lease in Ohio from oct 1-the first week of January my trail cam pics of mature bucks are about 50-50 day/night pics. In NY even in the Adirondacks where most bucks don't see a hunter all season if I get 20 pics of mature bucks there might be 1 daylight pic. Around home I get a lot more pics of buck but still have a handful of daylight pics.

In Ohio the mature bucks are usually the first ones out in a food plot or field that simply doesn't happen in my 20 years of hunting NY.


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So do you think if ones wants a bigger  buck in N.Y.  he would be better off tracking stalking or doing a drive then  spending time in tree stands and ground blinds since they are not going to move in the day . With out being pushed ?

[Bucks movement, how far will they go?]

What is 3 miles to a deer that can run 30 plus mph  throw brush that humans can barely walk in 

[can you explain why hunters would want to shorten gun season?]

I think you see less big  bucks here because of  more hunters per sq miles and more pouching.  Probably seems like I always here a ton of shots before and after legal light and Season . 

My dad use to joke want to see the deer go look in the local  farmers barns . Don't know if there is any truth to that . But probably farmers can get special nuisance permit for deer as well .

[How much do you shoot your deer rifle/shotguns]

 Some years not at all some year maybe 3 5 shots  if there on the money that is  it . Where i hunt you can't see more then 75 yards anyways   if I new I was hunting in a place with a chance to take 300 400 yard and farther shots I would definitely practice much more .

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Have read some good stuff here ,Before I decided to join up been hunting all my life but it is interesting to here how other people go about it .