NYARCHER76 Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 Im looking to lease land in Cayuga county(southern part) and was wondering how the hunting is their? I was in Madison county and lost my lease to the farmer selling! SUCKS..... I know that some counties are better and some worse, but was hoping I could get a few answers from the forum guys/girls. I'm not looking for Steuben county bucks,(would be nice)but I don't want to waste my time either if that makes sense. Thanks Again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-H Brad Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 (edited) NYarcher76, Check out our website for a list of hunting leases that are currently available.http://cottonhanlon.com/leasing.html We don't have anything in Cayuga Co. but there are some woodlots in adjacent counties. Bob Edited August 14, 2012 by C-H Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-H Brad Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Forgot to paste our web address..... http://cottonhanlon.com/leasing.html Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 That actually sounds like a great deal....I know what taxes are in that area....We have 63+ acres in the Alfred area and a small camp...the taxes are over 4,000 a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampotter Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Wow- thats a lot of money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Sam...if that was to me ...hell ya!! and the camp is very small... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Wow- thats a lot of money! Try $15-$25K in taxes for 1/4 acre in Westchester or Putnam County. Even $7-10K in taxes for condo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampotter Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 $20+/ acre is a lot of money either giving or receiving. What are leases in the midwest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Ya Biz...that's why our daughter is having a hard time buying a house....Corning to Ithaca the taxes are crazy on a decent 180,000 home...and that's just a modest home for that price....One can afford a mortgage...just not the taxes to keep it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 (edited) I own a 900sq. foot 1BR co-op in Westchester County that I paid $200K for. My taxes are just under $4K a year. The condo's across the street are $350-$600K for 1-2BR, with taxes around $9K. Edited August 14, 2012 by Biz-R-OWorld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Sam...what would be the point of leasing if they aren't going to at the very least cover the taxes...now even if it is higher than the taxes for "vacant land" they are in business and from what I can see not gouging...and from the sounds of it fairly liberal on what they allow on the properties...unlike owning...if you don't find the area productive you can leave.... know big deal....selling is a whole other story if things aren't good.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Biz Camps about that size and accessed at 79,000 w/land...and 4k+...just crazy I think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13BVET Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 I own a 900sq. foot 1BR co-op in Westchester County that I paid $200K for. My taxes are just under $4K a year. The condo's across the street are $350-$600K for 1-2BR, with taxes around $9K. Sounds like here in Southern Dutchess. Average price of a home here, is about $700,000 and up. The older ones are damn expensive also. People down here would love to pay just $180,000 for a home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 I wish I could live in Dutchess, hell of a lot cheaper than Westchester and even Putnam. Just too far from NYC (work). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Ya But I bet ppl down there are on a much high pay scale...like our daughter said...Mom I could be working closer to NYC and getting way more than what I make now for what I do....but I'd also be spending that extra money just to be able to survive down there...braking even or being below what I am now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Ya But I bet ppl down there are on a much high pay scale...like our daughter said...Mom I could be working closer to NYC and getting way more than what I make now for what I do....but I'd also be spending that extra money just to be able to survive down there...braking even or being below what I am now Yup, and vice-versa....I get tempted to move upstate, but then I wouldn't be able to afford to go on 5 hunting trips this year where I need to fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-H Brad Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Sam...what would be the point of leasing if they aren't going to at the very least cover the taxes...now even if it is higher than the taxes for "vacant land" they are in business and from what I can see not gouging...and from the sounds of it fairly liberal on what they allow on the properties...unlike owning...if you don't find the area productive you can leave.... know big deal....selling is a whole other story if things aren't good.... GrowaLot, You are right. Our average property taxes (town/county and school) is just shy of $20/ac this year, so the leasing program is a break-even deal for us. Our main business is growing hardwood timber, the hunting leases help us make this long term investment work. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5.9cummins Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 That actually sounds like a great deal....I know what taxes are in that area....We have 63+ acres in the Alfred area and a small camp...the taxes are over 4,000 a year Welcome to Allegany co. Where the tax rate to home value ratio is 3rd highest in the nation last time i checked. I sold my place last fall. Assessed at 79,000 with a 4,200 tax bill. Ya Biz...that's why our daughter is having a hard time buying a house....Corning to Ithaca the taxes are crazy on a decent 180,000 home...and that's just a modest home for that price....One can afford a mortgage...just not the taxes to keep it... I feel her pain. I have a good job and pay but either my wife has to go back to work (stay at home mom with 4 kids) or i need a second job. I own a 900sq. foot 1BR co-op in Westchester County that I paid $200K for. My taxes are just under $4K a year. The condo's across the street are $350-$600K for 1-2BR, with taxes around $9K. An assessment of 350K around here will get you between a 11,900$ (at the low end) and 25,900$ tax bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 your talking about a house though. I am talking about owning a co-op or condo in an apartment building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefbkt Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Wow those taxes are unreal! We live in northern cayuga county. We have a 4 bedroom house, farm with 5 barns/sheds, and 100 acres of land, and our taxes combined are.......you ready.....$5,000! I couldn't imagine paying that much in taxes. But, there are people I work with that pay 10k-14k a year for an acre or less. Not to mention, I'm part of a hunting club (8 guys) that leases ~700 acres in Oswego county for $2500 a year. Now granted the bucks aren't the biggest and the deer population isn't the greatest, but we always shoot deer. And every 2-4 years we shoot a really good buck for the area. NYARCHER76- I know you said southern cayuga, but have you looked at Cortland county? That's not too far from southern Cayuga. Check with gutchess tree farm right in Cortland, here is the link: http://www.gutchess.com/forestry_services.aspx Scroll to the bottom where it says recreational leases. That is who we lease our property from. Might be worth a call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5.9cummins Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 your talking about a house though. I am talking about owning a co-op or condo in an apartment building. I am talking about comparing a property value to the effective tax rate. Unless you get a tax break for being a condo whats the difference. http://interactive.taxfoundation.org/propertytax/ Taxes paid as a percentage of median home value (rank out of 806 counties) Allegany co. - 4 Cayuga co. - 13 Westchester - 102 Now if your talking about what you get for your money that is an entirely different story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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