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I would guess the first buck to be a mature 4 1/2 year old buck.  It has a little pouch on the brisket and a slope to the belly.  Also has some tarsal staining to indicate a slightly older buck. The second one is a little harder to tell with the angle.  I would venture a GUESS at 3 1/2 years on him.

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