Question about traveling with hunting riffle overseas

[lastedtiger]

 

Glad you had some fun, but I am still trying to figure out why go thru all the trouble of taking pistols and AR's to Africa, when bullets fired from such firearms probably just bounce off the majority of animals that roam that continent?  It just seems like a hell of a LONG way to go to just do some plinking at rodents and rabbits.  You could have gone to Arizona or other places out west for far less money and heck of a lot less hassle.  You are saying that next time you will take some real firepower to Africa like a .375H&H.  I am just wondering why it took you a trip over there to find out that a gun like that is better suited for Africa then the pistols and AR's you did take??

 

 

 

 

Lol, thanks for rubbing it on my face  , i neglected this trip until the day before and went to cabelas in hamburg to find out it cost roughly 3000 dollars for remington 700 african big game which is what both coworkers own. Guess i will start putting milk and cookies for santa. I am more of a target shooter than a hunter anyways, and my buddies and i agreed on me bringing handguns so we can all shoot variety of firearms. Target shooting in Africa is WAY BETTER than anywhere we have ever been, those handguns were not intended for any types of hunting, there were more game roaming around that i can possibly dream of, however bringing my glock 30s was a tragic mistake as we did not get any 45 acp ammo around .I do not own anything more than a 308 howa axiom, which was useless since my buddy was bringing his 308.

LESSON LEARNED THE HARD WAY

 

Slight change of subject. The OP mentioned Air France. I visit family in France regularly. Does anyone know if it is possible for Americans to hunt in the Pyrenees for boar, roe deer, izard, etc.?

 

I can find a guided hunt by googling but nothing about someone wanting to go it alone.

Good subject, i will look into it. I just know about exporting a gun there but that is a whole other thread.

 

I had no Problem just carried it on right up the ramp of the c-130 only thing they wouldn't land the plane we had to jump.

[steve863]

Lol, thanks for rubbing it on my face  , i neglected this trip until the day before and went to cabelas in hamburg to find out it cost roughly 3000 dollars for remington 700 african big game which is what both coworkers own. Guess i will start putting milk and cookies for santa. I am more of a target shooter than a hunter anyways, and my buddies and i agreed on me bringing handguns so we can all shoot variety of firearms. Target shooting in Africa is WAY BETTER than anywhere we have ever been, those handguns were not intended for any types of hunting, there were more game roaming around that i can possibly dream of, however bringing my glock 30s was a tragic mistake as we did not get any 45 acp ammo around .I do not own anything more than a 308 howa axiom, which was useless since my buddy was bringing his 308.

LESSON LEARNED THE HARD WAY

 

 

Not rubbing it in, I was just wondering.  You could have done a whole lot better with the .308.  That has enough punch for the smaller big game.  Handguns or AR .223 are probably like mosquito bites on the bigger critters.  I don't think you need to spend $3000 on a rifle for Africa.  I know you can find something in one of the popular African calibers for less that will serve you just as well.  If you aren't hunting buffalo or lion, you can take lots of game with .300 or .338 magnum calibers which will cost even less than guns in .375, .416, .458 or similar African rounds.  Even budget priced rifles shoot great these days.

[jrm]

I am going to add my completely unqualified comments to this topic. I have not (and will not) travel through NY with firearms - too many horror stories.

 

What I find a bit scary is that you are planning to travel with an unregistered handgun and an unregistered "assault weapon." Not only are you planning to do so in NY state, but in NY city - which makes NYS look like a walk in the park.

 

NY does not honor handgun licenses from out of state. NYC does not even honor licenses from inside NYS. That means your handguns are technically illegal to possess. You could cite the federal "safe passage" rules, but that may not apply once you open the case for required inspection at the airport. I know it is a catch-22, but there are recorded cases of people who have been caught in that trap.

 

The AR is also scary. Unless registered, completely illegal to posses in NY. It would be interesting to see what happens at a NYC airport with one of those.

 

I fully understand how you are are supposed to be fine by following the rules. I also understand that NYS and especially NYC likes to have its own set of rules.

 

Domestically, I would suggest shipping to your location. Internationally, I don't think that is an option.

 

Best of luck. I hope you end up being one of the lucky ones.

[steve863]

 

 

NY does not honor handgun licenses from out of state. NYC does not even honor licenses from inside NYS. That means your handguns are technically illegal to possess. You could cite the federal "safe passage" rules, but that may not apply once you open the case for required inspection at the airport. I know it is a catch-22, but there are recorded cases of people who have been caught in that trap.

 

 

 

 

You are correct about NYC having it's own set of rules.  If you are traveling to another destination via airplane for a hunting trip, I think you'd be fine, but like you I don't think I'd take the chance.  Not worth it.  Those people behind you on line who are looking at you in horror when you are asked to open the gun case might yet get the last laugh when they take you away in handcuffs.  I sure as hell would not want to be that person they are taking away!

[Dinsdale]

Curmudgeon, on 07 Nov 2014 - 09:07 AM, said:Curmudgeon, on 07 Nov 2014 - 09:07 AM, said:Curmudgeon, on 07 Nov 2014 - 09:07 AM, said:

Slight change of subject. The OP mentioned Air France. I visit family in France regularly. Does anyone know if it is possible for Americans to hunt in the Pyrenees for boar, roe deer, izard, etc.?

 

I can find a guided hunt by googling but nothing about someone wanting to go it alone.

 

 

I have hunted the Pyrennes but from the Spainish side for Chamois......But stayed for a couple nights in Andorra. (Andorra is a prinicpality, like Monaco for example, between Spain and France.

 

I didn't connect on a animal that was up to my liking but we did see a fair amount of game.

 

Same trip, but further south in Spain, I was successful on Boar,Mouflon, and a couple Fallow.

I did driven Boar with dogs and beaters near Portugese border and it was a hoot! Highly recommend it for an experience.

 

I know a very good American booking agent that has a quality guide in France that I could put you in contact with......happens to also live in NY.

 

I had a toss up for another African hunt this past year or France and happened to pick Namibia as the outfitter/PH there has limited bookings and he happen to have a spot open for me to fit in 10 days with him. (was interested in Roe and Chamois)

 

Be aware however European hunting is not inexpensive and can cost a good buck unless you have some local hunter connections; with family there you should be able to cultivate some I would hope.....

 

Most trophy cost is based on score using CIC methods (typically weight of cleaned skull and antlers) and top quality specimens can get scary expensive in a hurry!

 

Sometimes you can get a "any trophy" pricing but that doesn't always mean the guide will put you on gold medal animals.

 

Not trying to scare you away, just have to ask the right questions to fit what you want in a hunt.

Edited November 8, 2014 by Dinsdale

[Dinsdale]

lastedtiger, on 07 Nov 2014 - 06:52 AM, said:

 

 waterbuck

 

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what guns did you bring over if you do not mind me asking? my coworkers had some 375 HH as their primary hunting riffles.

 

 

  Thanks again for the advices , much appreciated

 

 

Could not agree more on Dinsdale being right on the procedure, guess i owe him more than a beer now

 

 

Just curious on the Waterbuck; Defassa or Sing-Sing ? (If you know)

 

 

I have a takedown rifle made by a company called Blaser, roughly 40 calibers are availible in a drop on fit.......I own(ed) several calibers for it, about a dozen I think. But last trip was a plain old 30-06 ,shot up to Gemsbok/Zebra sized game. I had an offer for a Giraffe bull (about 3000lbs) and I would have been fine for caliber bullet choice with a neck or heart shot. I didn't take Giraffe in the end as other interests kept us hunting on the property I was on, trophy fee was fair and probably should have made a side trip out of it in hindsight.

 

I have travelled with 300RUM, 270 Win,30-06 with the Blaser to Africa. Other calibers have made other trips.

 

I also made a African hunt with a 375HH in a custom rifle and took quite a few head of plains game, up to a 2200lb (live weight) Eland. Same trip the rifle shot a 18 lb Common Duiker and all manner of game in between. Its just a great all around choice for easy to find ammo if jammed up and hits with authority.

 

In addition I have used 223Rem for a cull, 243Win  on a Kudu, 8x57 various.

 

 

Most locals there  hunt plains game with "our" typical Whitetail calibers....243Win,270Win,308, 30-06,7x57,8x57; As a travelling hunter if you draw blood you pay the trophy fee recovered or not, so it makes more sense to be practiced well, have good ammo, and shot placement than to carry a 300 magnum that makes you flinch. But a heavier caliber can work if it can be shot well.

 

If you follow my posts when bullet choice comes up in a topic, I always shoot a firm constructed, standard to heavier for caliber bullet. I set all my guns up the same....A-frames,TBBC's, Woodleigh's.

 

I believe in 2 holes or breaking bones if I can get it. Some critters are tougher than others, Kudu are on the soft side, Gemsbok pound for pound are tough IMO. I have very few bullet recoveries and all Gemsbok have had a bullet in the offside skin.

 

 

If you buy the beer, I'll be happy to buy the dinner to go with it.

[incognito]

 

I did not get away with anything in that trip, like i said way up Port authority police called their station with the name ,model and serial number of all my firearms; their main concern was that the guns were really mine and had way more interest in the handguns the AR.

 

I was not implying that you were trying to be anything other than fully above board.

 

But I think you were mistakenly not in compliance with the SAFE act based on my assumption that you did not register the AR before you moved out of NY to PA.

 

I would need to see that 24 hour rule in writing before I would risk the consequenses.

Edited November 8, 2014 by incognito

[lastedtiger]

I am going to add my completely unqualified comments to this topic. I have not (and will not) travel through NY with firearms - too many horror stories.

 

What I find a bit scary is that you are planning to travel with an unregistered handgun and an unregistered "assault weapon." Not only are you planning to do so in NY state, but in NY city - which makes NYS look like a walk in the park.

 

NY does not honor handgun licenses from out of state. NYC does not even honor licenses from inside NYS. That means your handguns are technically illegal to possess. You could cite the federal "safe passage" rules, but that may not apply once you open the case for required inspection at the airport. I know it is a catch-22, but there are recorded cases of people who have been caught in that trap.

 

The AR is also scary. Unless registered, completely illegal to posses in NY. It would be interesting to see what happens at a NYC airport with one of those.

 

I fully understand how you are are supposed to be fine by following the rules. I also understand that NYS and especially NYC likes to have its own set of rules.

 

Domestically, I would suggest shipping to your location. Internationally, I don't think that is an option.

 

Best of luck. I hope you end up being one of the lucky ones.

International shipping is an option but i think the end user had to be resident of that country as well as getting an ECOWAS permission letter, the shipping and freight fees were about 2000 dollars for that particular country, i was quoted by Rob at CZCUSTOMS .

My AR was in one piece, in a Herters soft case unscoped inside my main pink bag, i have posted pix as proof.  The police asked Air France manager if that was ok to have the AR in a soft case and the response was yes ; I had a hard case in the X6 just in case  .

Even though my buddies have travelled from CT and PA to JFK with out of state firearms, told me the procedure, I still went and did my own research at the source which included having the manager calling France to know how many firearms were allowed. There is nothing  wrong with Being overly cautious , here is Port authority police once again if anyone reading the thread has questions 718-244-4335.

On the international side, make sure you have a permit which allows you to bring the firearms there; I added the application record that I presented to Port authority police in JFK.

 

Just curious on the Waterbuck; Defassa or Sing-Sing ? (If you know)

 

 

I have a takedown rifle made by a company called Blaser, roughly 40 calibers are availible in a drop on fit.......I own(ed) several calibers for it, about a dozen I think. But last trip was a plain old 30-06 ,shot up to Gemsbok/Zebra sized game. I had an offer for a Giraffe bull (about 3000lbs) and I would have been fine for caliber bullet choice with a neck or heart shot. I didn't take Giraffe in the end as other interests kept us hunting on the property I was on, trophy fee was fair and probably should have made a side trip out of it in hindsight.

 

I have travelled with 300RUM, 270 Win,30-06 with the Blaser to Africa. Other calibers have made other trips.

 

I also made a African hunt with a 375HH in a custom rifle and took quite a few head of plains game, up to a 2200lb (live weight) Eland. Same trip the rifle shot a 18 lb Common Duiker and all manner of game in between. Its just a great all around choice for easy to find ammo if jammed up and hits with authority.

 

In addition I have used 223Rem for a cull, 243Win  on a Kudu, 8x57 various.

 

 

Most locals there  hunt plains game with "our" typical Whitetail calibers....243Win,270Win,308, 30-06,7x57,8x57; As a travelling hunter if you draw blood you pay the trophy fee recovered or not, so it makes more sense to be practiced well, have good ammo, and shot placement than to carry a 300 magnum that makes you flinch. But a heavier caliber can work if it can be shot well.

 

If you follow my posts when bullet choice comes up in a topic, I always shoot a firm constructed, standard to heavier for caliber bullet. I set all my guns up the same....A-frames,TBBC's, Woodleigh's.

 

I believe in 2 holes or breaking bones if I can get it. Some critters are tougher than others, Kudu are on the soft side, Gemsbok pound for pound are tough IMO. I have very few bullet recoveries and all Gemsbok have had a bullet in the offside skin.

 

 

If you buy the beer, I'll be happy to buy the dinner to go with it.

I will have to ask, some names were too technical for me. 

In the country we went the most popular calibers were 30-06, 223, 308 , 375HH and few others i cannot recall . Talking about which We went to visit a gun shop there called OUAGAARM to buy ammo and got turned down for trying to buy 223 and 308 ammo which is supposedly only allowed to law enforcement  but were able to get anything else. i heard very positive comments about these Blaser while talking to local hunters, i can see you were always well prepared and appreciate your input in this thread .

Most game are tough on that continent and would take a 375 and run like there is no tomorrow. Never seen a Gemsbok but saw an Oryx while jet skiing on a trail infested with birds, i uploaded a pict .  2 holes is something any hunter should believe in for clean humane kills on top of good ammo and practice.

I forgot to mention that our firearms were kind of WET when we opened the cases almost like they were kept frozen.

Beer for dinner sounds like a good deal.

 

I was not implying that you were trying to be anything other than fully above board.

 

But I think you were mistakenly not in compliance with the SAFE act based on my assumption that you did not register the AR before you moved out of NY to PA.

 

I would need to see that 24 hour rule in writing before I would risk the consequenses.

No offense taken, this thread is mostly about safety measures and sharing personal experiences meaning nothing is off topic  . 

Port authority police or Air France never told any of us anything about registering the ARs in NY, but a cop said he will call PA police to let them know i was at the airport while he was running my firearms serial numbers.

That 24 hour rule is what Port authority police told me right after they asked me how long i have been in nyc with the firearms. When i called them, the person over the phone told me to come straight from PA to JFK and not to hang around. When i went to JFK few days before the trip they told me to make sure my name matches on both firearms and drivers license for the handguns.  

If there is Safe Act I was worried about was France simply because I am from there and cannot own these firearms there, yet was transiting for 7 long hours. Technically we could not own AR or pistols in France, NYC and Africa but all those have very fair rules when it comes to hunting trips.

 

Not rubbing it in, I was just wondering.  You could have done a whole lot better with the .308.  That has enough punch for the smaller big game.  Handguns or AR .223 are probably like mosquito bites on the bigger critters.  I don't think you need to spend $3000 on a rifle for Africa.  I know you can find something in one of the popular African calibers for less that will serve you just as well.  If you aren't hunting buffalo or lion, you can take lots of game with .300 or .338 magnum calibers which will cost even less than guns in .375, .416, .458 or similar African rounds.  Even budget priced rifles shoot great these days.

Fair enough Steve, most of my smaller big game kills were with the 308, although the 223 was very effective on pigs and goats. I couldnt agree more on budget priced firearms shooting great nowadays. Meeting few fellow hunters at our office in Africa as well as local hunters opened a whole new hunting network for years to come, guided hunts got boring very quick; Like Dinsdale said it is addicting.

[incognito]

I would need to see that 24 hour rule in writing before I would risk the consequenses.

 

Yeah, I am quoting myself.

I was wrong.

 

It looks like New York City has a 24 hour exemption from prosecution for possession of assault rifles in transit despite the SAFE Act. I don't know if other counties in NY have the same exemption. Watch how you travel into NYC from out of state.I don't know how NYC can be more lenient than New York State. I did not look into large capacity magazines.

 

I ran out of energy looking for the handgun possession exclusion (same findings as the NRA website), but I did find the laws regarding rifles; shotguns; and, to my suprise; assault weapons. I guess we need to rely on FOPA for handgun transportation.

 

I did call the Port Authority Police. The 24 hour rule was confirmed without a distinction for handguns but I did not get a real warm fuzzy feeling that I had the expert on the line. He could not point me to any Port Authority literature or web pages for support. He warned against bringing in an AR-15 when I pushed him on it but he had no issue with hunting rifles. He referred me to the NY Penal Code.

 

 

Excerpts from the NRA website at http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-laws/new-york-city.aspx

 

HANDGUNS—PURCHASE AND POSSESSION

A license is required to possess a handgun for any purpose.

  HANDGUNS—CARRYING

The license to possess a handgun is a license to carry unless restricted, but almost all licenses are restricted. If there are no restrictions the licensee may carry the handgun concealed on or about his person, loaded or unloaded. 

Handgun licenses issued elsewhere in New York State are not valid in New York City. New York City licenses are valid throughout New York State. However, a New York State license to carry or possess will be valid in New York City provided that the handguns are transported by the licensee in a locked container, and the trip through New York City is continuous and uninterrupted.

RIFLES & SHOTGUNS—POSSESSION

A permit issued by the Firearms Control Section of the Police Department’s License Division is required to possess a rifle or shotgun in New York City.

 

Non-residents in transit who are carrying rifles and shotguns with them are exempt from the permit and registration requirements provided they remain in New York City for less than 24 hours and the rifles and shotguns are at all times unloaded and in a closed case, or in a locked automobile trunk.

 

SOURCES: New York city Charter Chapter 18-C, and 18-D; New York City Administrative Code Title 3 Chapter I “Mayor” 3-105,  “Emergency Measures”, 3-109, “definitions” 3-131; Title  Ten “Public Safety”10-301 through 10-312, and New York penal law Section 400.

 

 

Excerpts from http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/nycode/ADC/10/3/10-305

 

N.Y. ADC. LAW § 10-305 : NY Code - Section 10-305: Exemptions

 

i. (1) Non-residents in transit. Any other provision of this chapter to the contrary notwithstanding, a non-resident of the city of New York who, without a rifle and shotgun permit issued hereunder, enters the city of New York possessing a rifle or shotgun in the course of transit to a destination outside the city of New York, or a non-resident of the city of New York who enters the city of New York possessing an assault weapon in the course of transit to a destination outside the city of New York, shall have a period of twenty-four hours subsequent to such entering to be exempt from penalty under this chapter for the unlawful possession of a rifle, shotgun or assault weapon, provided that such rifle, shotgun or assault weapon shall at all times be unloaded and in a locked case, or locked automobile trunk, and that said non-resident is lawfully in possession of said rifle, shotgun or assault weapon according to the laws of his or her place of residence.

 

 

 

Excerpts from http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/nycode/ADC/10/3/10-301

 

N.Y. ADC. LAW § 10-301 : NY Code - Section 10-301: Control and regulation of the disposition, purchase and possession of firearms, rifles, shotguns and assault weapons

 

Definitions. Whenever used in this chapter the following terms shall mean and include: 1. "Firearm." (a) Any pistol or revolver; ( a shotgun having one or more barrels less than eighteen inches in length; or © a rifle having one or more barrels less than sixteen inches in length; or (d) any weapon made from a shotgun or rifle whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise if such weapon as altered, modified, or otherwise has an overall length of less than twenty-six inches. For the purpose of this subdivision the length of the barrel on a shotgun or rifle shall be determined by measuring the distance between the muzzle and the face of the bolt, breech, or breechlock when closed and when the shotgun or rifle is cocked; the overall length of a weapon made from a shotgun or rifle is the distance between the extreme ends of the weapon measured along a line parallel to the center line of the bore. Firearm does not include an antique firearm. The provisions of this chapter relating to firearms shall not apply to assault weapons except as specifically provided. 2. "Rifle." A weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder, and, even if not designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder, is not a firearm as defined in subdivision one of this section, and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed metallic cartridge to fire only a single projectile through a rifled bore for each pull of the trigger. The provisions of this chapter relating to rifles shall not apply to assault weapons except as specifically provided. 3. "Shotgun." A weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder, and, even if not designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder, is not a firearm as defined in subdivision one of this section, and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed shotgun shell, to fire through a smooth bore either a number of ball shot or a single projectile for each single pull of the trigger. The provisions of this chapter relating to shotguns shall not apply to assault weapons except as specifically provided. 15. "Semiautomatic." Any firearm, rifle or shotgun that uses part of the energy of a fired cartridge to expel the case of the fired cartridge and load another cartridge into the firing chamber, and which requires a separate pull of the trigger to fire each cartridge. 16. "Assault weapon." (a) Any semiautomatic centerfire or rimfire rifle or semiautomatic shotgun which has one or more of the following features: 1. folding or telescoping stock or no stock; 2. pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; 3. bayonet mount; 4. flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; 5. barrel shroud; 6. grenade launcher; or 7. modifications of such features, or other features, determined by rule of the commissioner to be particularly suitable for military and not sporting purposes. In addition, the commissioner shall, by rule, designate specific semiautomatic centerfire or rimfire rifles or semiautomatic shotguns, identified by make, model and/or manufacturer's name, as within the definition of assault weapon, if the commissioner determines that such weapons are particularly suitable for military and not sporting purposes. The commissioner shall inspect such specific designated semiautomatic centerfire or rimfire rifles or semiautomatic shotguns at least three times per year, and shall revise or update such designations as he or she deems appropriate. ( Any shotgun with a revolving-cylinder magazine. © Any part, or combination of parts, designed or redesigned or intended to readily convert a rifle or shotgun into an assault weapon. (d) "Assault weapon" shall not include any rifle or shotgun modified to render it permanently inoperative.

 

 

 

i. (1) Non-residents in transit. Any other provision of this chapter to the contrary notwithstanding, a non-resident of the city of New York who, without a rifle and shotgun permit issued hereunder, enters the city of New York possessing a rifle or shotgun in the course of transit to a destination outside the city of New York, or a non-resident of the city of New York who enters the city of New York possessing an assault weapon in the course of transit to a destination outside the city of New York, shall have a period of twenty-four hours subsequent to such entering to be exempt from penalty under this chapter for the unlawful possession of a rifle, shotgun or assault weapon, provided that such rifle, shotgun or assault weapon shall at all times be unloaded and in a locked case, or locked automobile trunk, and that said non-resident is lawfully in possession of said rifle, shotgun or assault weapon according to the laws of his or her place of residence. ( - See more at: http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/nycode/ADC/10/3/10-305#sthash.wftGUhkf.dpuf

(1) Non-residents in transit. Any other provision of this chapter to the contrary notwithstanding, a non-resident of the city of New York who, without a rifle and shotgun permit issued hereunder, enters the city of New York possessing a rifle or shotgun in the course of transit to a destination outside the city of New York, or a non-resident of the city of New York who enters the city of New York possessing an assault weapon in the course of transit to a destination outside the city of New York, shall have a period of twenty-four hours subsequent to such entering to be exempt from penalty under this chapter for the unlawful possession of a rifle, shotgun or assault weapon, provided that such rifle, shotgun or assault weapon shall at all times be unloaded and in a locked case, or locked automobile trunk, and that said non-resident is lawfully in possession of said rifle, shotgun or assault weapon according to the laws of his or her place of residence. - See more at: http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/nycode/ADC/10/3/10-305#sthash.wftGUhkf.dpuf

(1) Non-residents in transit. Any other provision of this chapter to the contrary notwithstanding, a non-resident of the city of New York who, without a rifle and shotgun permit issued hereunder, enters the city of New York possessing a rifle or shotgun in the course of transit to a destination outside the city of New York, or a non-resident of the city of New York who enters the city of New York possessing an assault weapon in the course of transit to a destination outside the city of New York, shall have a period of twenty-four hours subsequent to such entering to be exempt from penalty under this chapter for the unlawful possession of a rifle, shotgun or assault weapon, provided that such rifle, shotgun or assault weapon shall at all times be unloaded and in a locked case, or locked automobile trunk, and that said non-resident is lawfully in possession of said rifle, shotgun or assault weapon according to the laws of his or her place of residence. - See more at: http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/nycode/ADC/10/3/10-305#sthash.wftGUhkf.dpuf

(1) Non-residents in transit. Any other provision of this chapter to the contrary notwithstanding, a non-resident of the city of New York who, without a rifle and shotgun permit issued hereunder, enters the city of New York possessing a rifle or shotgun in the course of transit to a destination outside the city of New York, or a non-resident of the city of New York who enters the city of New York possessing an assault weapon in the course of transit to a destination outside the city of New York, shall have a period of twenty-four hours subsequent to such entering to be exempt from penalty under this chapter for the unlawful possession of a rifle, shotgun or assault weapon, provided that such rifle, shotgun or assault weapon shall at all times be unloaded and in a locked case, or locked automobile trunk, and that said non-resident is lawfully in possession of said rifle, shotgun or assault weapon according to the laws of his or her place of residence. - See more at: http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/nycode/ADC/10/3/10-305#sthash.wftGUhkf.dpuf