mike rossi

Yeah, this is real good... I give Jersey 15 years, 20 tops, first state in the nation to prohibit hunting. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d8f_1421602836&comments=1

Here it is: http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/contact.html

Most ducks will not fly across others sitting in the water or feeding in a field. They land into the wind, behind the feeders and walk into the flock. I would say mallards can be aggressive and cut the line.... Not with geese though and I am assuming you will have goose decoys and one robo. make it look like the duck is landing into the wind and down wind of the decoys. If you do add some other duck decoys , keep them separate from the geese, If I am using one duck robo with only other geese decoys I might place it off the side and/or a little further away then normal, becuase even mallards will give geese room.

This may have been a hack job. Doesn't seem to be parsing. We are running IP addresses right now. Whoever is responsible will be held accountable, civilly and criminally.

Jim, A group from NY has tried to help NJ, and basically we were told to shut up, we didn't know what we are talking about, etc... NJ Federation of sportsmens clubs consists of 150,000 members, yet there are only 70,000 hunting licenses sold in NJ. Why, because the federation is comprised of commercial businesses, horse clubs, and boating clubs... Furthermore, the state only has about 80,000 acres of early succession habitat, so that is a little more than one acre per hunter. The national average for loss of hunting licenses is about 12% a year, and I imagine NJ exceeds the natiuonal average, Do the math, your extinct, and with the vulgar attitudes you guys boast, those who tried to help dont really care... If you want to donate, that means cough up some money, you can contribute to this NJ group: http://newjerseysundayhuntingforall.weebly.com/

In theory the silos flash and appear to move to flying birds as well, since they are flat. A set of silos in the wind waddle like feeding birds, but without wind I rather pick them up. Probably should get a robo duck too in case ducks work the field. But most hunters think these scare geese, so get one with a remote so you can shut if off or keep it shut off until you see or hear ducks.

Link works to the page, but the second link to contact does not, here is the contact link: http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/contact.html

The survey does not make any negative or positive inference about crossbows, antler restrictions, or anything else. The purpose of the survey was to evaluate the level of truth in the claim occasionally made which asserts the NY hunting community is divided about the issue of dove hunting. The results of the survey indicate that NY hunters are not divided and most support legalizing mourning dove hunting. The responses to each question is in the summary and the method we used to measure level of consensus was explained. We indicated the sources we obtained information about coyote and mourning dove populations in the report. Those sources being SUNY ESF and Cornell University. This was a pretty cut and dried project, It is pretty amusing any dishonesty can be charged in this. Others actually said we did in fact and/or we "probably" terminated the survey for disingenuous reasons. As someone else indicated, if the sample size exceeds 100 then each response costs money. The next thing someone is going to raise is that the sample size is too small. And, as I already said, even if the sample size was 5,000 instead of 100, it is unlikely the percentages would change much or at all and therefore the results and conclusion would be the same. That being said, any future surveys we run will indeed be related to our agenda. It serves no purpose to tell respondents the purpose of a survey, as it may introduce bias into the results. However, it is obvious from some of the posts in this thread that some were annoyed the survey was about dove hunting, so to be abundantly clear, even if they include seemingly unrelated questions, our future polls will be restricted to dove hunting, pheasant stocking, hunting dogs, Sunday hunting, and possibly habitat. If those topics do not interest you, or you reject helping us, then simply don't take the surveys.

Thank you. Plus, if we surveyed 5,000 hunters the percentages probably would not vary much, if at all...

I like BK and do not want to offend him or others on here but you have to consider he lives in the city. Does he have a cattle trailer to transport full bodies? Does he have the storage at home? Not everyone has 5 hunting partners to assist with decoy placement and/or the permission to drive out onto fields either. Much enters the equation when someone asks what kind of decoys they should buy or how many. I don't want to debate the effectiveness of full bodies versus silos or any other decoy type, but I dont think what you are saying is always true and depends were and when you are hunting. On the water, were the current/wind imparts motion, flocked floaters seem to fool more birds. But if you drive around any areas were field goose hunting is popular, you see toy soldier like spreads of full bodies every other section and realize they look anything but realistic from a distance, especially after the birds have already been exposed to them. A spread of silos in the next section, better yet socks if you got the wind can look much more appealing to birds in those situations. . A large set of FBs, especially without calling, can be the kiss of death... Without calling and flagging, worse yet...

Here is the Summary Report of this survey, it answers most of the questions and comments posted on this thread. Thank you for your participation! http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/survey-findings-comparative-levels-of-agreement-among-the-new-york-hunting-community.html

Doc, I will pm you...

Doc, Based on the comments above, it is pretty obvious that this survey might uncover some statistical inferences that disinterested hunters tend to oppose what does not directly benefit them rather than remain neutral. I have no interest in any sort of deer hunting, so if I gripe about no such option as no opinion, is my gripe as important as yours? Perhaps the survey was a "targeted survey" structured for hunters who DO have an opinion on all the subjects and those that do not are not a target of the survey?

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/RZQTMFJ

http://www.telecomintel.com/bid-opportunities/2015/02/27/6113886-Pheasant-Hatchery.html

Most people hunt off their backs, not like on TV and/or like outfiiter/guides. So for water hunting, you probably can only carry about 6 to 8 floaters stuffed into an Avery floating decoy bag per hunter. Unless you are the size of herman monster, buy a large avery bag, not an extra large. For field hunting, dont forget a "flag" and use silhouettes, carry as many as you can, but a dozen is enough. When it gets cold, and/or you are hunting on solid ice; a few sleeper shell decoys should be added to the mix. Sometimes you cant get the silo stakes into the ice without a screw gun, hence the sleeper shells. Plus when it is cold and/or when geese are on ice, they sleep, so it is a natural set. The beauty of sleeper decoys is that it is natural for sleeping geese NOT to move and NOT call, So flagging and calling are less important. And although it is now common to use other styles of shell decoys with motion stakes, obviously you dont want motion in a sleeper decoy - so no stake just set them on the ground. many are one piece, and they are stackable even with the attached head. Some are designed to be heavy, so they dont blow over, but NY doesnt get the winds of the Dakotas. Other sleeper shells are designed so the tails dont catch the wind, however this was engineered by a marketeer/ engineer, not a goose hunter, becuase geese sleep with their heads toward the wind, and that is how you should set your sleeper decoys. Yes, the wind shifts, but then again, ideally, you should be rearranging your decoys when it does. Unless the wind direction is going to be constant for some time, (again, around here, the wind direction is constantly variable in direction and not often " prevailing" as they say), I wouldn't obsess about moving decoys. However, on those occasional days (the best for goose hunting) when you have a constant wind direction, especially from the north or north west, I certainly would make sure the decoys are orientated naturally the first time you place them.

Never mind, I decided to delete my response.

In NY, traps set on land, larger than a 4 inch jaw spread, are required to have a pan tension adjustment device and the trap is to be set at 4 pounds ( I think it is 4 pounds). That prevents most of the smaller critters from firing the trap. It doesn't require a 4 pound animal to fire a trap set at 4 pounds either, it keeps the small mammals and birds form springing the trap most of the time. NY Law also requires you to bury bait, so birds are not attracted. You cant use a piece of tin foil or a fake frog or fake crawdads on the trap pan for raccoon and mink, to avoid birds like herons, etc.. You cant set traps on top of muskrat lodges, were birds loaf.. There are a bunch of laws designed to decrease non target catches. Trappers themselves have other tricks not necessarily required by law.In the last 15 years, a trap which only catches prehensile animals is becoming popular with trappers as they have learned how to use them. Someone refered to them as dog proof coon traps. They catch in addition to coons, skunks, opposums. Some trappers may have reported to catch an occasional bobcat or fox, anything is possible, but the animal has to stick its paw down a narrow tube to trigger the trap...

Yes, they have them all over. You just have to keep checking, Like the regular hunter education classes, most don't post until closer to hunting season. The difference with the waterfowl education classes is if you miss a class, you probably will have to travel or wait again, because there isn't very many scheduled. So just keep checking. Also, I didnt misunderstand your question, if I remember any good books directly related to waterfowl hunting I will let you know, but for now I would say they are all about equal. I would always recommend Ducks Unlimited as a "go to " source for waterfowl hunting and conservation. They have several books on hunting, i never read them, but trust the source, I do see some of DU books are by wade bourn, he is alright, but he has that old dude style, I dont really care for his DU videos on you tube, so maybe I am wrong about DU books, but its a start...

That is silly but I will entertain it by arguing rodents and other prey species including grouse and turkeys have a very high reproductive rate...

One fisher per 4 square miles or per 2,560 acres.... That explains the disappearance of red and gray squirrels....

February 25, 2015 - Cumberland County Prosecutor Jennifer Webb-McRae today issued a press release indicating that the she was dismissing the charges against 72-year old retired teacher and military academy graduate Gordon Van Gilder. Van Gilder made international news after being arrested and charged by Cumberland County Sheriff Robert Austino for possession of a flintlock pistol dating back to the 1700's - a "crime" carrying up to 10 years in prison under the Garden State's nonsensical gun laws. The prosecutor's press release undoubtedly came in reaction to intense public outcry as Van Gilder's story went viral. While the press release warns gun owners generally not to possess firearms in a vehicle, it states "upon careful review of the circumstances in this case, I am exercising prosecutorial discretion to dismiss the...charges in the interest of justice..." Van Gilder was stopped in November by a Cumberland County sheriff's deputy for a minor traffic violation. When he volunteered that he had a nearly 300-year-old flintlock pistol with him, he was initially released but then arrested the next morning at his home and charged with unlawful possession of a handgun, a felony. Several NJ lawmakers have introduced legislation to exempt possession of antique guns from prosecution (Assemblywoman Caroline Casagrande, Sen. Jeff Van Drew and Assemblyman Robert Andrzejczak). Please watch for additional updates.

I think it should be one of the banned words, along with a few other partisan terms, because for us that truly hunt its quite a bore... Just for housekeeping purposes, the OP, in the first post, mentions the "progressive movement". I have seen the terms "liberal" and "progressive" used interchangeably, seemingly to bolster the liberal ideology.. However, I believe the "Progressive Party" was a party started by Teddy Roosevelt, the only conservation president this country has ever had. He started out as a republican and quit it and formed this party. The party failed and doesn't really exist anymore. Although TR acted as a republican and then as his self defined progressive, the successful conservation funding strategies we have today that TR created, or in the case of the Pittman - Robertson Program, he inspired; are actually more like socialism then anything else.

You have tried to bring this around to the original question like 4 times now - and the thread is 4 pages long and nothing about the topic you started. And it is a topic about passing hunting-related legislation, I don't bow hunt or hunt deer, but I was interested in the ideas about forwarding hunting legislation by the crossbow affectionates - so I checked this thread out and found NOTHING.... Perhaps I can join in and attack you to, but for knowledge, not spite, by asking you the question have you read ANYTHING I posted on here or viewed our three websites, blog, and social media? I think your answer might be found there. I am not posting this as some sort of promotion, I want to know, have you ever read our stuff, and why or why not?

Here is the anti petition I messaged about earlier. The issue of hunting contests is not one I am passionate about and in my opinion, they are not good for the public image of hunting. Therefore, i will not be engaging in this issue. However, I find a few things about this interesting and possibly useful. First, this was delivered with a message revealing their strategy. The contest bill has not been moved for a vote (familiar to advocates of dove and Sunday hunting). The antis strategy is to gather massive petition signatures and then assemble at the capitol (picket) while their lobbyists go into the offices of the state lawmakers with petition in hand. Minus the picketing part and it sounds like a winner to me... A couple observations: I see the new (assembly?) encon chairman is republican Thomas O'mara, district 58. The vice chair is anti hunter and anti hunter sponsored Tony Avella.... It should not be a surprise they already gathered over 8,000 signatures. Also note the shared it on face book 2,968 times and on twitter 830. They are taking full advantage of electronic petitions and social media. If you didn't see our last article on "networking" that just came out yesterday, check it out - you can't miss it because the title photo is a picture of Andrew Coumo shotgun hunting. Please read this article and cooperate with our strategy! http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/918/932/027/?z00m=22647233&redirectID=1602089375