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NYDH Quarterly Newsletter October/November 2014 Although we do not intend to be involved with elections, we have sent out more emails than intended due to the primary and general elections. In two years, depending on what we accomplish, we might become involved with electing supportive candidates, as it is pretty apparent that if we had worked at it we could have seriously impacted the reelection of Senator Avella and Senator Grisanti. We will see how arrogant these two are in the next two years following the election, that is provided Grisanti is even reelected, which he very likely will not be. Another diversion, and reason for frequent contacts, is our attempt to petition the governor to veto the mute swan bill which passed both houses. We urge you to sign the petition and to in turn urge others to sign it. Furthermore the sporting community MUST begin to accept Electronic Petitions and stop being wary of them. After the elections and after we close the mute swan petition, we will be launching a mourning dove petition. The lack of participation with the mute swan petition is concerning, however. We urge you to also sign and forward the upcoming mourning dove petition as well! Since we are still pushing the mute swan petition; and other similar legislation is pending - for example the monk parakeet protection act, we are sending an extra newsletter that should help everyone connect the dots about how the antis are tying invasive species management and convoluting invasive biology and how it is likely to create ANOTHER obstacle to establishing a hunting season for native mourning doves. Since this invasive-themed newsletter is an extra, we again will be mailing more frequently because we have a lot of other stuff we want to get out there which is more directly related to the mourning dove hunting issue. Unless the HSUS pulls some stunt to close down the DEC pheasant farm and banning pheasant hunting in NY (again), we should be back on a regular schedule and mailing less often. However, follow our website and social media sites as we will update things weekly or even more often. Here are some articles we have published on our website since last newsletter: http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/ldquowhat-is-going-on-with-getting-a-dove-season-in-nyrdquo.html http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/hunting-related-legislation.html http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/atlantic-flyway-council.html http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/eurasian-collared-dove-regulations-throughout-the-us.html http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/eurasian-collared-dove-hunting-ndash-endless-opportunity.html http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/the-common-denominator.html

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Good post, I don't know enough about this dude to endorse him, but I endorse the idea of getting sportsmen engaged in the actual processes of campaigns and DEC public comment. We obviously aren't progressed enough yet, maybe next election time we can more among us out helping politicians who might be friendly to our interests... Just keep introducing the concept of volunteering, participating in the public review phase of DEC regulation setting, ect... A decade or so we might have something... No shortage of time and energy in our "team" in being bitter and critical. No motion behind the emotion however...

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I am passing the following from SAOVA, an organization it is wise to follow: News Briefs and Updates October 24, 2014 Dear SAOVA Friends, Campaign financing information has been released by the Federal Election Commission (FEC) that includes contributions through September 30. We have a few notable updates for you from these figures. The Humane Society Legislative Fund (HSLF) spent a total of $78,493 supporting the campaign of Congressman Gary Peters (D) to win the open Senate seat race in Michigan against challenger Terri Lynn Land ®. A close second is Senator Jeff Merkley (D, OR) where HSLF has contributed $75,150 to assist his re-election. We reported previously that HSLF had contributed $41,794 to the campaign of Tony Strickland ® in the California district 25 open Congressional seat race against Steve Knight ®. Rounding out the list of top expenditures is the HSLF contribution of $50,941 to Congressman Bruce Braley (D) challenging Joni Ernst ® for the open Iowa Senate seat. As of October 23, HSUS/HSLF contributed approximately $2 million to Mainers for Fair Bear Hunting, headed by HSUS state director Katie Hansberry, in support of their ballot initiative. Question 1 on the November ballot would ban the use of bait, dogs and traps for bear hunting in the state. The current report from the Maine Commission on Governmental Ethics and Election Practices shows only one percent of the campaign funds raised by supporters of Question 1 actually came from Maine donors. In addition, HSUS/Mainers for Fair Bear Hunting filed a lawsuit in September requesting an injunction against the Maine Department of Inland Fisheries and Wildlife to prevent them from speaking out publicly against Question 1 and to have all content opposing Question 1 removed from their website. Last week Superior Court Justice Joyce Wheeler rejected the injunction request. “Restricting speech on contested public issues is directly contrary to the public interest, which favors a robust and dynamic public discourse,” Wheeler said in her 15-page decision. “It is [for] the voters, not the plaintiffs or the courts, to assess the relative merits of conflicting speech. Judge Wheeler continued, “The public interest would be adversely affected if plaintiffs’ request for a temporary restraining order were granted when DIF&W’s speech is on topics squarely within its competence as governor of statutory directives from the Legislature.” HSUS/Mainers for Fair Bear Hunting plans to appeal the decision. PERDUE/HSUS JOINT PRESS RELEASE October 13, 2014. Perdue Farms, Inc. and The Humane Society of the United States are pleased to announce the settlement of two federal cases in New Jersey and Florida concerning Perdue's "humanely raised" claim on its Harvestland chicken labels. The settlement requires the plaintiffs to dismiss their claims with prejudice, in exchange for Perdue agreeing to remove the "Humanely Raised" label claim from its Harvestland chicken packaging. The proposed class action cases were filed in 2010 and 2013 by individual consumers who contended that Perdue's "Humanely Raised" claim on the packaging of its Harvestland brand chicken was misleading. Perdue vigorously opposed plaintiffs' claims. "We are pleased to see the claim removed from Harvestland's packaging, which we view to be misleading," said Peter Petersan, Director of Animal Protection Litigation for the HSUS. "We will continue to work to protect both animals and consumers." "Perdue rejects the plaintiffs' allegations and maintains that its labels are not misleading in any way. Nonetheless, it has agreed to discontinue the labeling claim at issue," said Herb Frerichs, General Councel for Perdue Farms. "Perdue is committed to treating animals with respect and to ensure their health and safety. We are pleased this lawsuit has been resolved." Source: HSUS press release. Please read and share the rest of our updates. The world not only belongs to those who show up, it's controlled by the best informed and most motivated. Make your vote count on November 4th! Susan Wolf Sportsmen's and Animal Owners' Voting Alliance - Working to identify and elect supportive legislators

Doc, I am almost positive that there has been a live test for some time, maybe ten years. Google it.

That's a good deal. Public blinds can burn out, but you guys on LI got a more constant stream of fresh birds. I want to add that not every diver is a sea duck. If hunting during a seas duck only season you need to know what you are shooting, as in all waterfowl seasons you do. Not sure if the question of this post is to define the sea duck zone, where to launch, or how to hunt sea ducks? Or all of the above?

Likewise not every rural person has the ideology that some would have you believe. Similarly, some in the sporting community puts words in the mouths of farmers. Most farmers (not all, but most) are concerned about the environment, take care of the land they work, and don't have hatred for predators or go hog wild about pests. Most are quite rational, as a matter of fact...

Hunting WILL be banned unless it is accepted by a broad base of people. The Republican Party is not big enough to preserve the hunting heritage. Neither do most republicans support hunting. Making hunting a partisan issue will lower the needed broad-based support, not bolster public acceptance of it... Hunting must have broad support and offer something to the non-hunting public majority and non-game species, or it eventually will be banned and replaced with other funding strategies and tools... The key to preserving hunting is not worrying about the confirmed supporters of animal rights, but to win over the persons with neutral attitudes about hunting. Two ways the hunting community makes this difficult is by being critical of others and hero shots with trophies. You can talk till the cows come home ( and many of you will) but you will never convince the public at large to accept or understand trophy hunting. And yes, I did see the video someone posted a few days ago, not convincing at all.... The photo here has an entirely different meaning to other people and in their minds it is senseless. That isn't the only thing operating- anti hunters do not want children and/or women to see peers hunting and think its cool. They are aware of the attempts to recruit youth into the sport as well as the increasing interest in hunting by women. The antis perceive hunting as an ego-based activity. Thus they believe posing with a trophy is done to bolster ego. If they attack the photo, they believe they are reducing the ego value of hunting to new people. With some of these women posing with game farm deer and turkeys with their hair brushed and wearing make up all this is reinforced. If a kid or woman posing with an animal is seeking attention and approval, it may encourage other kids and women to follow and they want to short circuit the recruitment by deflating the ego instead of allowing it to inflate. Other new hunters come for food and/or the total experience - associating the sport with ego is an effective way to turn off those potential recruits as well...

That link is not research, it is an article written by a journalist, not research written by a scientist.... The biography off of that link lists where this guy is published (*) - none of them are science journals. Research is published in science journals. And it is not published until it is reviewed by a panel of other scientists... (*) Not science journals: "his writings on whitetail behavior, hunting strategy, and quality deer management have garnered critical and popular acclaim. In addition to being a long-time field editor for Deer and Deer Hunting, Alsheimer's articles appear in Outdoor Life, Whitetail News, and many other prominent magazines. His books include Strategies for Whitetails, Whitetail - Rites of Autumn, Quality Deer Management - The Basics and Beyond, Hunting Whitetails by the Moon, Whitetail - Behavior Through the Seasons, and Whitetail - The Ultimate Challenge. He is also the co-author of A Guide to Adirondack Deer Hunting".

This may sound flippant, but keep trying... If you can access other public or private lands, do it, but either way just keep at it and don't expect quick results...

Links that are pasted are abbreviated , and although they will work from this site, if you repost them in an email or another site, the shortened link will not work. I don't know if this is done to protect losing traffic to this site, but if the intent of the post is not to sell anything or promote another site, in the scheme of protecting and promoting hunting you should consider making an exception to this or eliminating it. Three percent of the people are out there pushing info and ideas to protect/promote hunting for the other 97 percent; and we don't need anymore challenges; i.e. such as repasting the part of the post containing the link; and/or explaining to others they need to do this if they reshare - its hard enough to get many people to do anything at all, any small thing that complicates the process is usually a deal-killer.

Yup. We will post it here and all over. But the reach will be greater if many people repost and/or share it on social media.

I am not aware of any. NY Dove Hunting is going to launch a mourning dove hunting petition in the near future, sometime after the smoke clears from the elections and everyone settles down, including the politicians.

“What is going on with getting a dove season in NY?” When Bruce Babbitt became Secretary of the Interior he told conservationists not to expect him to do the right thing, but to make him do the right thing by bringing needed political pressure. (The Department of the Interior or DOI; houses the US Fish and Wildlife Service; therefore ultimately administers federal Pitman Robertson funds.) According to David Johns, School of Government, Portland State University; co-founder of Wildlands Network and Yellowstone to Yukon Conservation Initiative: “To build the political support and pressure needed to achieve a goal; too often conservationists take for granted existing power relationships rather than recognizing the need to change them, or they ignore questions of power all together, believing factual information will persuade decision makers whether they are national leaders or communities”. The DEC is still making impartial observations about the issue, but their comments resonate with Bruce Babbitt and David Johns, for example, here are two quotes from the DEC: "If sportsmen show enough unified strength about the issue, we will do our best to support the effort". “There is no biological reason why doves could not be hunted in New York. However, until political support increases to the point that a bill to amend the Environmental Conservation Law is introduced, passes both the Senate and Assembly, and is signed into law by the Governor, we encourage small game hunting enthusiasts to continue to enjoy New York's other game bird hunting opportunities for turkey, grouse, woodcock and waterfowl, available in a variety of habitats across the state.”

We want to close our mute swan petition this month and ask for more people to help out by signing it and encouraging others to sign it. We will be launching a petition to legalize dove hunting in the near future and certainly hope the response is much better than we have had with the mute swan issue. For those of you think we are a lone wolf in this hunt, read the first link below from Maryland DNR. This has been brewing in the Atlantic Flyway for some time, including a supreme court decision in our favor. However, in NY, the legislature sided with animal rights organizations over the DEC, FWS, Atlantic Flyway Council, Universities, and large conservation organizations. The second link below is to the petition. You can read the signatures and see if you know anyone. Rick McGovern and Tom P, from this site who run the Crossbow Coalition have signed it. Rick is also on our face book page, by the way. The president of the NY Trappers Association has signed, So have many others you all know. Please also sign and share right away. Refer to this: http://www.dnr.state.md.us/dnrnews/infocus/comments.html Please sign this petition to allow NY's state wildlife agency to continue to make management decisions about mute swans that are consistent with the rest of the Atlantic Flyway Council. In addition to the importance of eradicating this deleterious introduced species; interference with policy regarding mute swans can set a precedent for politics to guide policy regarding other alien species and ultimately, all native species as well. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/832/485/616/veto-s-065889-a-and-a-08790-a/

Winchester and maybe other companies, sell "Expert Steel" loaded with one ounce of 7 steel. Winchester also sells "Steel Super Target", loaded 1 1/8 of 7 steel. Those are what I use. Works well , put it on paper and/or test the penetration if your skeptical. It suspect a lot of people trying to cure things with full chokes and/or large shot (#2 for ducks) are shooting a pattern with too much fringe and too many holes, and as a result, are crippling more instead of less. Maybe it wont work for everyone, but for me large shot isn't the way to go. Neither are tight chokes. That corresponds on to letter size shot for geese, I prefer #2 for geese. And, no expensive "designer loads" for me. I kill my share of birds and only lost two in five years and they were stone dead, got swept off by the river current and a young dog apparently not worked enough in moving water got confused...

Kevin Stocker is a 2014 Republican candidate for District 60 of the New York State Senate. BattlegroundRace.jpg This candidate is running in a "race to watch" in one of the 20 chambers identified by Ballotpedia as a battleground chamber. State legislative battleground chambers, 2014 The majority of state legislative chambers with elections in 2014 are not at risk of flipping majority control. Using data on partisan balance, seats up for election and competitive districts, Ballotpedia staff has identified the top 20 state legislative chambers to watch. NY State Senate District 60 Buffalo and surrounding area! Read about this and 19 other Battleground chambers: http://ballotpedia.o..._chambers,_2014 A win for Stocker in Senate District 60 is a huge win for sportsmen. If you live in the Buffalo area, be sure to vote and be sure to vote for Stocker. If you know people from district 60 in and around Buffalo convince them to get out and vote and for Stocker! Regardless of were you live follow second link to volunteer for his campaign. http://www.stockerfo...m/about_stocker http://www.stockerfo...nge.com/contact Stocker is opposing Mark Grisanti who got voted out of the republican party and is running as an independent. Grisanti voted for the safe act, killed the dove bill, and sponsored multiple laws designed to punish dog owners. Grisanti is currently the chairman of the senate environmental conservation committee and in such a position he decides what hunting-related legislation gets moved for a vote and blocks whatever he pleases to.

State legislative battleground chambers, 2014 The majority of state legislative chambers with elections in 2014 are not at risk of flipping majority control. Using data on partisan balance, seats up for election and competitive districts, Ballotpedia staff has identified the top 20 state legislative chambers to watch. NY State Senate District 60 Buffalo and surrounding area! Read about this and 19 other Battleground chambers: http://ballotpedia.org/State_legislative_battleground_chambers,_2014 A win for Stocker in Senate District 60 is a huge win for sportsmen. If you live in the Buffalo area, be sure to vote and be sure to vote for Stocker. If you know people from district 60 in and around Buffalo convince them to get out and vote and for Stocker! Regardless of were you live follow second link to volunteer for his campaign. http://www.stockerfo...m/about_stocker http://www.stockerfo...nge.com/contact Stocker is opposing Mark Grisanti who got voted out of the republican party and is running as an independent. Grisanti voted for the safe act, killed the dove bill, and sponsored multiple laws designed to punish dog owners. Grisanti is currently the chairman of the senate environmental conservation committee and in such a position he decides what hunting-related legislation gets moved for a vote and blocks whatever he pleases to.

A win for Stocker in Senate District 60 is a huge win for sportsmen. If you live in the Buffalo area, be sure to vote and be sure to vote for Stocker. If you know people from district 60 in and around Buffalo convince them to get out and vote and for Stocker! Regardless of were you live follow second link to volunteer for his campaign. http://www.stockerfo...m/about_stocker http://www.stockerfo...nge.com/contact

A win for Stocker in Senate District 60 is a huge win for sportsmen. If you live in the Buffalo area, be sure to vote and be sure to vote for Stocker. If you know people from district 60 in and around Buffalo convince them to get out and vote and for Stocker! Regardless of were you live follow second link to volunteer for his campaign. http://www.stockerforchange.com/about_stocker http://www.stockerforchange.com/contact

First, the use of someone else's blind and/or hunting near someone else's blind is an old debate in waterfowling.... The "Golden Hour" for duck hunting is 30 minutes before sunrise to thirty minutes after. Most serious waterfowl hunters refuse to hunt the late afternoon, unless the birds are feeding nocturnally, which is not at all uncommon, with or without hunting pressure. Hunting roost sites in the afternoon is NOT a good idea. At least three or four decoys and a call are good to have. And off course those decoys must be anchored or staked... Try to set up where the birds want to already go, rather than try to get them to come to you which is known as hunting "traffic birds". Give yourself some time to learn how to use a call and do without one until you get the hang of it. If you are hunting water, obviously you need waders or at least hip boots. To retrieve your birds and to manage your decoys. And off course you need camo clothing... There are special regulations for waterfowl hunting. First, some birds have restricted bags, so you must know how to identify different kinds of ducks.(Most of the managed waterfowl hunting sites require you to carry a waterfowl ID certification card to get one click here:http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/waterfowl-identification-class.html ) Second in addition to your hunting license you need to get a federal duck stamp from the post office or online from the USFWS. It must be signed. Third you must register in HIP online or by phone and carry the registration number you are assigned with you along with your state license and federal stamp. If you are hunting with others, technically you are suppose to keep your birds separate. Your gun must be plugged to hold not more than three shells. You must use federally approved non lead ammo. If your gun uses screw in chokes make sure the tubes are rated for steel shot. Although most hunters will disagree my suggestion is 2.75 inch shells loaded with one or one and an eighth ounce of number 7 steel for all waterfowl except geese, brant, and off shore sea duck hunting. For geese et all I also load lighter than most using 3 inch (not 3.5 inch) number 2 steel. I do prefer the shells loaded heavier, ie. 1 3/8 to 1 1/2 ounces, but few those are hard to find and most often use the more common 1 1/8 ounce. Steel shot patterns best with a more open choke and I would recommend IC or modified, if you shoot a double use one of each. As in choice of ammo, you will hear varying opinions about choke selection as well. Without a dog you need to select where you hunt and/or manage your shooting so that you do not drop birds where you cannot retrieve them. That doesn't only mean deep water , but it also means heavy cover.

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