mike rossi

From Doc's safe act voting record post regarding Curran: VOTING TO INFRINGE YOUR GUN RIGHTS – Ayes: Abbate, Abinanti, Arroyo, Aubry, Barrett, Barron, Benedetto, Boyland, Braunstein, Brennan, Bronson, Brook-Krasny, Buchwald, Cahill, Camara, Castro, Clark, Colton, Cook, Curran

Doc, I should have added his vote on that issue, however, it is in the vote smart link. It is a lot of work for me to look up everything. I was actually hoping someone would quote and comment with his vote on that... But here is the surprise, what about the opposing candidate? He needs to be surveyed on hunting and 2a issues. I don't know if we can do it this Novenber, but in 2.5 years we will be sending the candidates running against incumbents surveys and posting their responses or failure to respond. Not needed to survey incumbent on issues they have a voting record for, but other issues maybe... Hey, if you or anyone has the time, do it for this election. I will be pretty pissed if someone steals my idea and doesn't ask about pheasant farm/ mute swans/ mourning doves (ie.. send them only crap about antlers, crossbows, youth, cormorants, coyotes, rifles)... or doesn't consult with us about crafting the mourning dove / pheasant/ mute swan part of the survey though...

Assembly District 21 Candidate: http://www.friedmanforassembly.com/ Incumbent: http://assembly.state.ny.us/mem/Brian-Curran/ http://votesmart.org/candidate/127875/brian-curran#.U1fyw3ko_IV http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_F._Curran https://www.facebook.com/brian.f.curran

Post the about the seats you become aware of that will be challenged this November. I will post the first one so if you don't know what I mean, look at the following post...

http://youtu.be/7LwWskZNlcU

I saw this before. Out on the great plains this is feasible and a number of guys get this many - not because of high populations alone, but legal and physical access, the weather is the hardest part out there. If you think NY is cold, lol... But in some cases some of these guys are FUR BUYERS... Keep that in mind....

Here are a couple more links, granted they are right off the first one, but it will make it easier. http://wildharvesttable.com/ http://www.senecacountycce.org/?page_id=633

CWD confirmed in Iowa deer recently....

https://www.soils.org/publications/nse/articles/42/1/185/

I am confused by that. Our FB page has not changed. We launched a regular website in addition to the FB page. The website offers additional tools, one example is we were able to post the 145 page report done by one of the NY County Sportsmen Federations which they never bothered to do and therefore could only be distributed by individual email. Now it can be shared or the link can be posted on this or other forums. I believe you are self employed in the maintenance or cleaning business, which surprises me you don't even have a FB page for your business? FB is a great tool and I encourage you to create an account and subscribe to our two FB pages. We need people not only organized, but to recruit others. It is encouraged people use our FB and/or website links in their forum signatures or distribute them any way they can to the appropriate readers. We need people on our pages to 'like' and 'share' our posts to increase our reach. We also need guides with dogs - Please take an outdoor writer and politician dove hunting in Pennsylvania this fall... We also need journalism, whether written, photography, or videography.

We launched a website today that will be used with our face book page. Click on each picture or caption for useful information. A few links are not added yet but will be soon. The link to our website is: New York Dove Hunting New York Dove Hunting website designed to inform policy makers and stakeholders View on nydovehunting.weebl... Preview by Yahoo Last week we distributed a link from a document from the Canadian Wildlife Service which we incorrectly described as a report done by Scott Petrie, although Scott's work was the foundation for much of the CWS's report. The link to Scott's actual report on reinstating Ontario's dove season is: http://longpointwaterfowl.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Barney-et-al.-2007-MODO-Technical-Report.pdf Backtracking to keep things straight, the link to the CWS report (sent last week) is: http://longpointwaterfowl.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/CWS-ON-MODO-Popn-Assessment-Sept-2011.pdf Our next project is creating a presence on You Tube and when that is complete we will email you. It will also be announced on the new website as well as the face book page. We have found that You Tube has an surprisingly large reach, attracts people with different learning styles, level of interest in an issue, and allows a different approach to sending a message which is often easier. You Tube is every bit social media as face book and in that respect works the same, but perhaps better. We are anticipating the DEC's revised (draft) mute swan management plan to be open for public comment smack at the start or during spring turkey season. When the comment period is announced we will be again be in touch.

NY Dove Hunting has a new website. We launched a website to go along with our face book page. Please take a look, tell others about it and also like out face book page. Here is the link: http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/

Hope this is ok to post here, but we have these for sale. 12" x 9" Aluminum (0.04 inch thick). Not terribly expensive, but not practical for the entire perimeter. Place at corners and/or approaches. Photo shows front. back, and shotgun shell for size reference. If interested send me a PM.

Doc, Anti hunters have become much more sophisticated than in the past, they lie less and call the facts more often nowdays. They can no longer be characterized as 'emotional'. Any lie or myth, promulgated by either side can work for some time, but eventually the truth catches up. Besides, as you acknowledge, it is also emotionalism when hunters depict how predators tear up fawns or pull them from the uterus while being born, etc... Its just what I call the hero syndrome... We must accept the facts and develop our arguments around them. When the facts do not support our arguments we must concede or look like clowns... Besides, it would be pretty selfish to allow hunting policy to exist in conflict with what is sound management. Yes, there are many hunters who are selfish, many of them head the federations et al, but we need them like a hole in the head. The point that so many are missing is that the way deer have been managed for 100 years is being challenged... There is mounting evidence that harvesting bucks and too many predators is not the way to continue. With the passion you have about the crossbow issue I think this should be very apparent by now. It seems like Belo's intent here was to discuss how to photograph harvested animals, he should have been more explicit with his title, avoiding the wide course this thread took. Perhaps this is another subject for elsewhere....

Thanks for the link, I followed it to another link and it sounds like a permit is NOT needed to use deterrent dogs, according to page 1 of this link: http://www.dec.ny.gov/docs/wildlife_pdf/nygoosepermitinfo.pdf On page 1 it does in fact say no state or federal permit is needed to herd or scare Canada geese if birds are not harmed. However what if the dog catches the birds? Waterfowl are completely flightless for 4 to 6 weeks when they molt their feathers. Geese might try to confront a dog when nesting or preparing to nest... Plus if the dog does get into a nest, you do need permits... It doesn't seem likely any legal action will be taken, but it seems that there can be legal action if someone wanted to. I really don't want to try and figure out or debate the likelihood of legal action, I am just pointing to possibilities. Again, thanks for the link, the info really surprises me because it contradicts the MBTA and I never would have believed that without reading it...

That was supposed to be funny...

Yeah, now that I think about it, I have seen mallards do that, but its actually the white chalky stuff, that is their version of urine, not crap. I suppose geese do that to, but the issue over geese is with the (other) excrement because they make so much of it. This is the first time I ever heard of complaint about the white splash from geese, other birds yes, but not geese... I get uneasy when it seems two different things are being confused which sets us up to look like a bunch of liars who don't know crap from piss....

Humm... I wasn't aware geese crap in flight , although some birds do... Never hear of hunters getting crapped on when they shoot at geese over head and never had it happen to me either... What do you know about how mute swans defecate? Biologists say, that unlike geese which crap on land, mute swans crap in the water and thereby contribute to the water quality problem. The animal rights crowd says that mute swans crap on land. Who is correct?

I don't know why you want to get involved with that, you probably are not a waterfowler and do not know Canada Geese, but here you go... Even though these are so-called resident geese, I am pretty sure the landowner would need a federal permit. I assume your name must be on the landowners permit but I am not sure. The number for the landowner to call for it is 413-253-8643. I would assume there is also some DEC paperwork involved. I am also pretty sure that any form of harassing geese such as by dogs, also requires a federal permit.

We talk about the 'Bambi Syndrome' but what about the 'Big Bad Wolf Syndrome?' (Little Red Riding Hood?) Hunters talk about predators eating animals alive and/or while being born to bolster a pro-hunting stance... Forget about it, the public is no longer buying it...

I don't doubt that coyotes drag fawns into dens.... So what? I guess if you look at BOTH pictures together, you see a heavy harvest of coyotes and buck, not doe deer. Guess what that does for the population control that hunters grand stand about ;and the antis, as well as conservationists, and biologists are taking note of? Coyotes eat a lot of deer, but that's a good thing -but we got some more "NRA Biology" going on here, again... I have not reviewed the (scientific) literature to confirm this, but I will venture a guess that when a pair of coyotes is rearing pups, they select a den site where they can access prey that does not move much, rather than wider ranging animals like whitetails which will require one or both parents to roam further from the den site. Also, I would think if they did feed on deer, unless it was a small fawn caught very close to the den, they would eat it and regurgitate it for the pups. Yes, a 40 pound coyote can carry a decent size fawn and /or drag an adult, but why would they? It is reasonable that during the pup rearing season, it is the unmated animals ( perhaps ones whose mate was shot by hunters) are more likely to take fawns.... It is also quite reasonable that coyotes might eat more deer, both fawns and adults, outside of their own young rearing season. Again, who really cares, how does that effect you killing that trophy buck? We hunters sometimes create a situation that we are not politically correct.... Other times we are not biologically correct... However, the worst scenario is when we are incorrect in BOTH aspects... That scenario also happens to be when we are most vocal and opinionated...

Never mind... Cancel that post. I took a few peoples word for something, but when I read the actual regulations I don't follow their logic. My fault, I should have known better...

In September, 2013, we announced that Ontario, Canada, set a mourning dove hunting season. Scott Petrie, who is a member of our page and Executive Director of Long Point Waterfowl, was active in establishing the policy. Long Point Waterfowl is a migratory bird research organization. Here is a link to the report he compiled in support of dove hunting in Ontario. http://longpointwaterfowl.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/CWS-ON-MODO-Popn-Assessment-Sept-2011.pdf

Pheasant Controversy is Growing As awareness about the negative impacts of invasive species is increasing, anti-hunters are using this legitimate issue to invalidate conservation efforts as well as stocking of game birds that are not native, yet not deemed a deleterious invasive species. Far from invasive, their populations are actually contracting like the native non game they share habitat niches with. That is why the criticized conservation efforts are stepped up. And the same conservation projects that help ring-necked pheasant, gray partridge, and chukar partridge, also help other grassland or early successional species, a few examples being: bluebirds, song sparrows, field sparrows, goldfinches, red-winged black birds, common yellow throat, eastern meadowlark, grasshopper sparrow, bobolink, savannah sparrow, and Henslow’s sparrow. First let’s discuss conservation. In NY the Wild Pheasant Focus Area; which is slightly smaller than Pennsylvania’s Wild Pheasant Recovery Area; consists of 150,000 acres and spans 13 counties. For reference New York City is 195,000 acres. Not only do a variety of species benefit from the 150,000 acres of somewhat contiguous habitat of the Wild Pheasant Focus Area; but the DEC also maintains early successional habitat on state wildlife management areas elsewhere in the state, including over 120 sites used for the state pheasant stocking program. Maintenance of habitat diversity is not restricted to pheasant release sites, however pheasant hunting provides both funding and political support for many projects and it is arguable that without pheasant hunters the state would have less early successional habitat. Keep in mind the word ‘maintenance’ is operant. To maintain early successional habitat it must be disked, mowed, or burned every three to four years. It is actually desirable to mow every year in the late summer, generally after wildlife have reared their young. Not only does this facilitate hunters and their dogs, but by removing the browning cool season grasses it stimulates warm season grasses and bee-loving flowers. Maintenance is not free and though critics of hunting continue to claim that conservation revenues generated by hunting are insignificant, the fact is that they are vital to conservation funding. The vast pool of knowledge about wildlife and habitat we have would never have been obtained in the first place if it was not for hunter’s dollars, a sadly overlooked fact. Note: It would be impossible for any alien species not to compete at all with native species. Almost no impact has been suggested for chukar and gray partridge. Pheasant roosters have been known to harass Prairie Chickens when on their leks and hen pheasants known to lay their eggs in Prairie Chicken nests. This will be an issue anti-hunters will grand-stand on, because recently (April 2014) the Lesser Prairie Chicken became a federally listed species. However, the issue with Prairie Chickens has always been habitat. Conversion of native grasslands (prairie) into range land and crop land did not have as much effect on the ring-necked pheasant or the prairie chicken’s cousin; the sharp-tailed grouse. Other factors have entered recently as well. In 2013 the amount of land enrolled in the conservation reserve program shrunk from the size of the state of NY to the size of the state of Delaware. A lot of this had to do with the demand for corn for ethanol production, but also uncertainty with the Farm Bill status. At the same time another major landscape change occurred with the expansion of the natural gas and oil industry which fragmented the little remaining native grassland prairie chickens require. The moral of the story is that ring-necked pheasants may have impacted prairie chickens, but other factors surfaced with much bigger impacts. Also refer to the following links for information about the Federal Injurious Species List and the Lacey Act: http://www.fws.gov/injuriouswildlife/ http://www.fws.gov/fisheries/ans/current_listed_iw.pdf http://www.fws.gov/fisheries/ans/pdf_files/Current_Listed_IW.pdf

What You Should Know By Now Engaging the Outdoor Writers Association and the NY Outdoor Writers Association is essential to building what the DEC describes as “political support for dove hunting”. However, keep in mind only hunters read what is published by outdoor writers and that is probably a good thing because they are not always politically or biologically correct. The outdoor writers can sell the sporting community on the idea that dove hunting is great recreation, but that is the extent of their usefulness. What is foremost is that to engage the outdoor writers requires sponsoring quality guided hunts for them to sample dove hunting. In other words, either take them hunting out of state or send them on a guided hunt that we pay for. Notice the word ‘quality hunt’ is operant. The absolute necessity to foster broad-based public support for dove hunting. As stated above, only hunters read the outdoor writer’s junk. The public majority is who will decide if dove hunting occurs in NY; not the sporting minority, nor the anti-hunting community. Outreach must also be aimed at the public at large and that requires different writing styles and content than the hunting rags. While we are doing this, the anti-hunters will also be trying to influence public opinion, however they will be better funded and more organized. Awareness of the negative impact on broad-based support and influence on public opinion caused by certain hunter behaviors, political stances, attitudes, beliefs, statements, photographs, and videos. How anti-hunters use newspapers to influence public opinion and politicians. When to write to newspapers and when NOT to write to newspapers. How to search the internet for newspaper editorials relevant to dove hunting. Rebuttals to the anti-dove hunting rhetoric of the HSUS, which is the Humane Society of the United States, the world’s largest and heavily funded anti-hunting organization which is very active in the state of NY and the major player in blocking dove hunting in many states for over 40 years. What a DEC Plan is… What a public comment period is… Some DEC regulations require a legislative change or approval and others do not. A legislative change requires a bill… What a bill is… What a bill hearing is and how your communication with the state senate and assembly members can be used in hearings. What the two environmental conservation committees are, who are the chairpersons and the other members, and their contact information.