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I am close enough now, but if one crosses the property line after I shoot it, I can not go get it. As far as my proposal he stated I did not need all the hunting land around me. To make it better today at 7:45 am he started shooting his rifle in the corn field as he was "sighting in." Shooting the length of the corn field mind you. This was still going on at 2PM off and on. Managed to screw up the days hunt. Oops almost forgot last evening at 5:15 PM pr so, he was out there spreading manure in the corn field.

Ok my last post. You are reading the regulation guide, which is very basic, I have the book of encon laws as I need it for my second profession. If you could actually read the law and not a GUIDE, you would understand you as well as the rest do not know the laws, you know the guidelines. There is a big difference. If you want to push the envelope, continue to do so. I guess I do not understand why you would not do something simple to show you have no intent, and not spend extra time explaining how you are "Coyote hunting" and risk a ticket, why would you not want to do so? Just don't hide behind the false sense of security the guide gives you. The law states all that has to be proven in intent, Best of luck. If you get a ticket don't complain and say the officer needs to catch real criminals.

nice and cool? It was 62 here today and close to that tomorrow and all week. Absolutely no deer movement today at all. It does not help when the neighbor spends all morning shooting at targets right across the property line. I came home as I am putting in a new door tomorrow at my house.

look up INTENT. Simple as that

you better prove you are coyote hunting and wandering around is not how you coyote hunt. But your mind is made up no sense confusing you with the facts.

yes it is.

yes there is let me explain again. All you need is intent. A loaded gun or a nocked arrow is intent. If you carry a gun around when spotlighting deer, and it is not properly secured in the trunk or in a case even if you do not have ammunition there is intent and you will get a ticket and you will lose trust me. But as I stated earlier you do what you feel is right. I have explained the obvious about three times now

good luck proving that. Do you carry the proper calls and the like? Just saying you might have a hard time proving that other wise.

it was a suggestion by a dec officer. It takes all the question out of it. A simple cheap fix.

what state trooper? First you tell me I should be teaching this in class. Then when I say the DEC officer does and then you say he is wrong and call him a trooper. This is way off the legal hunting hours question, but you do what you feel is right. I was merely explaining the interpretation of the law by a justice of the peace such as myself if you are ticketed. If you do not mind going to court fighting ticket and spending the time and money have at it. I am simply explaining intent. Good luck

yeah as usual you say it is like clock work I ask for the date you run away. And you wonder why I call you a liar. Seems pretty obvious as usual. Either show the data or retract you statement. You seem to be a data guy. Oh this data would have to be real I forgot. Oops caught in your stupidity again.

what is there to interpret. So you want to say when coming out you were coyote hunting. Read the part about a centerfire rifle during deer season. Call the dec and ask them.

can you prove it is like clock work? I would like to see the data. You are such a funny guy.

As I said it is not a law it is a recommendation form a local dec officer. I would prefer to buy a 2 buck lock and have it on to prove there was no intent than to be shook down for a while and get a ticket.

and you are still trying to make yourself look much more intelligent that you really are

I tis not up to the instructors to point that out. We teach safety. The dec officer that comes to my classes covers this. If the gun is loaded after legal hours, you are hunting or the intent is there, and you can be ticketed. I was simply conveying on here what he tells my classes. If your bow is not disabled in some way, the intent is there. buy a 2 dollar padlock put it around the string. Then there in never any question. Unload your gun at the end of legal hunting hours, there is never any question. If you came in front of me and said well the gun was loaded, but I had no intention of shooting a deer after hours, I would be suspect, and fine you. If you came in front of me and said yes you got out late, but the gun was unloaded, I am going to dismiss. You do not have to pull the trigger to be hunting after hours. You are walking n the woods inhabited by deer with a loaded gun after hours. That constitutes intent, and you are hunting. .

I am simply pointing out the obvious block me and you will never see anything I post if you really want to ignore me. The real truth is I have made you look like a fool way too many times for you to ignore. Well you make yourself look like a fool. I simply point it out.

Doc

as I just posted in the other thread, you do not have to be out of the woods by sunset. However your bow has to be disabled and your gun unloaded. By disabled, it needs to be unstrung if a recurve or a locking device so the bow can not be pulled back if a compound. A simple remedy is a padlock around the stings. Regardless of the time if you do not do these things after sunset,the intent is there to be hunting, and you can be ticketed.

I think you make a lot of things up, but that is my opinion. The rest you google to try to make yourself look intelligent.

why have a set of rules if they are just going to get bent every time? Sunrise and sunset are used as it is a pre determined time. Daylight to dark is subjective. What I may think is too dark, another will think it is fine. The other main reason for those hours is safety to properly determine your legal target and not some guy walking in the shadows at dusk. If you do not have enough light to determine by naked eye, you do not have enough light to hunt. If you rely on your scope, the light has passed by for the day.

just shaking my head. I have to say that 95 percent of all statistics are made up on the spot to include those

Today is the last day of early ml season here in the north. I have divided time between hunting and working on my property/home to get it ready for winter. One of the benefits of having a camp only 15 miles from home. I passed up two young bucks and two young does. I also passed on a decent doe yesterday due the proximity to the neighbors property and the possibility of the deer crossing over if I shoot it. I have always had a pretty good relationship with the neighbor who owns a farm. Anyway he leased his property to a bunch of idiots. I have chased two of them off my land twice this week. They were promised next time there will be law involved and I will arraign them on the spot and send them to jail. I can not do that, but they do not know that. Anyway, the neighbor stopped me Tuesday and asked what the problem was. I explained him his leasees are hunting all the property but his. Well the funny part I got accused of wanting all the land to myself. I chuckled and said well that is why I own it. This summer he posted and clearly marked his property, and I have never been on it other than to go to his house to talk to him. I have not posted mine, but I guess next year I will. I also in as nice a way as I can maintain told him with the boundaries he put up, he surely should be able to explain to the guys where the boundary was. Well he got upset and told me if anything crosses over to his land, not to expect permission to go retrieve it. I have the swamp and bedding area, he has a corn and alfalfa field that border my property. The deer go across my property to his fields to feed and then return. I have always honored it and never put up a stand inside 100 yards of the line. Well I see I am rambling, but these guys think it should be ok to put stands 50 to 75 yards on my side to watch the field. Funny part is if they asked me I would have let them set up on the edge on my side rather than be exposed in the field or setting up on the other side shooting toward my property. Now all they have accomplished is to cause hard feelings with my neighbor and I. I asked him to lease me the property next year, to avoid the hassles. I would gladly pay the 2500 bucks just to keep the fools out of there. Plus it would add to my 450 acres now. It becomes pretty ridiculous when you feel like you cant legally hunt your own property due to some fools who think they are entitled to my land too. Anyway I am off to camp to hunt the rest of today then regular season starts tomorrow. Good luck to all. I will be glad when the frost hits my sugar beets and the deer

I never thought to hang them by the neck. I usually shoot them. I usually hang by the back legs in a gambriel. I have never seen a difference either way.