TheHunter

What does $1500 crab sauce taste like?

Good question.

I keep my AR talk to the AR threads. You however have 2,500 posts of pure crap spread across every thread you touch.

Say whatever you wish, seems like there is no off button on that mature expert hunter mouth of yours. What I said in the first PM is exactly what I said in the thread, I asked you if you just toss the deer in the oven. Sorry you got so offended you had to resort to that PM. I have respect for all hunters, just not you and your BFF. Keep bashing others on the site, you are doing a phenomenal job.

Aww don't like it when the shoe's on the other foot.

Sometimes I get you two BFF's confused, however you both are about as useful as tits on a bull, spewing the same BS. You both made references to those that don't hunt like you guys as girls and or not real hunters.

For my boo Steve: http://huntingny.com/forums/topic/20137-for-steve863/

Steve, Thank you for that nice PM you sent me, your true colors are really coming through. Funny how you keep calling these guys here sissy's and girls for hunting how they wish to hunt when the only one pulling the childish crap is you. Moved our chat over here because you continue to de-rail that other thread and pretty much every single thread you participate on this site. For someone that just passed their "milestone" birthday you would think you would be a little more mature. I don't have anything to prove to you or others here, however since you "asked" so maturely here is a pic I took. The wife just finished setting up some holiday decorations the other day. I don't have a "trophy" room, but this is my family room. I've been hunting roughly 20 years with a few years off here and there.

Sorry I don't trophy hunt, so not sure what you mean.

Again have you even been to a butcher or a Taxidermist in the area of AR's? You have no idea what you are talking about, I frequent a few butchers in the area to see what is going on, they are just as busy as they were a few years back. Now its all coming together... Since you don't have an ATV you bash others that do, since you don't have a tree stand you bash others that do, since you don't shoot big deer (nor see), you shoot the little guys. Easier to drag and butcher, sounds like someone is being Lazy. Anyways I don't want to de-rail this thread any further then you did already.

Right, bigger deer with more meat are putting them out of business. Before making more of an ass out of your self then you already did go ahead and visit any butcher or taxidermist in the 3H area. Curious, do you just throw the whole yearling in oven? I mean why even bother cutting it up?

How long does it take to butcher up those yearlings? can't be more then a few min? I don't need to post pictures of AR Zone bucks, just visit any butcher or taxidermist in the 3H area. But then again you wouldn't know or need of one those anyways.

I wouldn't post pictures those 50lb'r yearlings either.

He already spent it on salt licks and other bait.

Who gives a flying crap what you killed. No ones does, stop being a troll. * edited my post.

Your just mad you can't wack a spike anymore.

Steve and Doe do you hunt in AR area's? What's that? No? Do you guys know what a Troll is? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29 Go troll some posts in your neck of the woods.

Just had this sent over to me... Sportsmen announced today that they strongly support the expansion of Yearling Buck Protection for the 2012 season recently announced by the Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC). The adopted hunting changes will expand the existing Yearling Buck Protection with Antler Restrictions (AR) to seven additional Wildlife Management Units (WMUs). David Hartman, President of New York State Whitetail Management Coalition (NYSWMC), stated, “We commend Commissioner Martens and the DEC staff for modernizing and improving deer management with the expansion of Yearling Buck Protection with Antler Restrictions into seven additional Wildlife Management Units (WMUs). We thank all our representatives inAlbany and the sportsmen for working together to adopt this modernization of deer management in New York. We hope that New Yorkers in the rest of the state will soon be able to benefit from this program.” Joe Montalbano, from Ulster County, remarked, “We have really seen excellent results in our area. It used to be that a fork horn was the normal buck but now with antler restrictions the new normal buck is an 8 pointer. I have to admit when Antler Restrictions were proposed in 2004 I strongly opposed them at our federation meetings. To anyone that is opposed to it now I would say, Go for it 100%- it really works! Our club, Marbletown Sportsmen, for the first time in its 62 year history has harvested an 11 point buck and other clubs are having the same success”. The majority of hunters in New York support Yearling Buck Protection with Antler Restrictions according to 2005 and 2010 Cornell Surveys commissioned by the DEC. And one need only look at the 2011 NYS Hunting Guide to see what the DEC is promising and marketing to hunters; adult bucks. Current management with the size limit from 1911 of one three inch antler results in most bucks in NY being harvested as immature juveniles before they can reach adulthood. Bill Willis, of Delaware County Economic Development, points out, “As a result most NY deer hunters are dissatisfied with their buck hunting and this is clearly shown in the fact that NY is losing two hunters for every new hunter recruited. This will have large economic impacts to NY. NY deer hunters contribute over seven hundred million dollars to the economy and their license fees and excise taxes contribute million of dollars to fund NY state wildlife programs.” Jay Martin, Big Game Chairman, Federated Sportsmen’s Clubs of Ulster County, remarked, “Protecting yearling bucks results in a large increase in the age of the bucks harvested. For example 3.5 year old buck harvest is up 258% in AR areas of Ulster and Sullivan Counties. Both Ulster and Sullivan Counties have harvested the biggest bucks since the late 1920’s in the Antler Restrictions areas and the overall buck take is up 5.7% over the pre AR harvest” Hunters are enjoying the benefits of the Yearling Buck Protection. “I have never seen a single white-tailed deer management program that has invigorated and excited hunters more. Hunters in the current AR areas are hunting a deer herd that many generations of NY hunters have never experienced” stated Dick Henry, a recently retired New York DEC biologist. Tom Yager of the Sullivan County Federation, explained, “The best results have been observed in WMU 3H, where buck harvest numbers have exceeded pre AR levels by 18.3%. According to the Cornell 2011 Survey continuing the Antler Restriction program was acceptable to 90.5% of Sullivan County Hunters.” David Dirks, a columnist for the Middletown Record, stated, "I'm a big supporter of Antler Restrictions. I'd like to see them implemented on a statewide scale rather than the current hodge-podge of adding a few units at a time over many years. So, if we have to expand Antler Restrictions for now using the slowpoke method, I think adding 3M, where I do most of my deer hunting, is a good place to go next." The interest in Yearling Buck Protection is very strong in NY where 350,000 hunters support it. For example, during the public comment on the regulation several thousand letters of support were submitted and only a few hundred in opposition. We are seeing a positive change in the interest in and support for yearling buck protection. Sportsmen know it results in better hunting and it is clear common sense to let immature animals reach adulthood. “Currently people are realizing the fact that Antler Restrictions result in more opportunity to see and harvest quality bucks” stated Charles Bevilacqua a Member of CFAB. David Hartman, concluded, “The Antler Restriction expansion is a victory. The DEC is acknowledging the viability of Antler Restrictions in NY. Now we must turn our attention to bringing this improvement to the majority of deer hunters who support it. Yearling Buck Protection is vital to wildlife viewers and hunters alike”. Sportsmen and wildlife viewers interested in improving the deer herds in their county should visit our website and join our group. www.nyswmc.com The regulation adopted by the DEC to Protect Yearling Bucks with Antler Restrictions includes WMUs, 3A, 4S, 4G, 4R, 40, 4P, and 4W, located in Sullivan, Ulster, Delaware, Greene and Schoharie Counties. This program will require deer hunters in those areas to take bucks that have three or more antler points on one side, instead of the antiquated three inch spike antler law which has been in existence since 1911. Similar changes have been successfully enacted in 21 other states and are intended to provide a better balance to the buck age structure of deer populations by protecting yearling bucks from harvest. The over harvest of immature bucks is deemed to be biologically inappropriate by many wildlife biologists across the nation.

Your wrong, I'm well aware that its just one by products of a properly managed and age diverse herd. The area's with AR's are not like some of these area's y'all hunt where the soil pukes with nutrients and there are farms all over the place. The AR zones have more hunters, stress, pressure, and other factors that those up further North do not see. I want to see the deer population thrive, and once my kids are old enough they will have something to hunt. Half the thrill is the chance to see a big guy out there, and when they do not exists or are so rare its considered a myth its clear there is a problem with the age structure and things need to change. More meat, bigger deer, bigger antlers, more action in the woods, healthier herd... It works in the zones that have it, it will work in the zones that are getting it and it works in other states that have implemented it. Its it the best way, nope, but its a start.

Well said.

Or maybe a hat that says brown its down.

Build the platform first, then worry about the rest.

I saw those on an old thread you made grow, they look nice. I want to do one like that too grow. Maybe I can build mine next year. I helped my buddy do a platform 2 years ago. He build the platform one year, then the box the next.

Must have you and the other BiD Larry mixed up... None - Can't speak for others, but I'm picky. Passed on a 100 6pt or better bucks, thats pretty a pretty impressive BS stat.