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In Orange co NY, Sussex n Morris co NJ the rubs are real good w new scrapes popping up daily. Seems a pinch early but Sat morn my brother seen two bucks chase does n the same area a girl I mentor watched another buck chasing a doe. Getting closer

We did kids let's see wives, gfs, etc women pics

this evening at the Walkill refuge we had a NWTF event. Thank God for Christina McGannon for running it. I wasn't there but two girls had close calls out of 4. Barb is the mom of Saige a girl I mentor. Barb is great n this was her first bowhunt!

Let me help you understand what I'm saying. If there's any dogs guys here theyll understand. Dogs can be outcrossed, line bred, in bred or sometimes what's called back bred. Through the breeding your objective is to stack the desired genes. When it works out which takes a bit you get consistency. the pups act n behave similar to the parents, our kids are not bred this way n we get dif personalities, same for outcrossed litters. If you would like dogs that act like the parents you should go for consistant/proven breedings., better chance of getting a winner. Before this turns into a breed thread impriperly done you get dogs w more probs. the breeding mentioned earlier cannot introduce genes not already there (in genes). If the wrong genes stack n you have a prob Its intensified. This relates to guns in that you can get a winner or a decent gun of any make. Just like dogs you can get an ok one anywhere. But chances are highest when they're bred properly. Guns when manufactured properly. I only recommend high percentage picks. Hope that makes sense. It's all about percentages in my book. Hmm in other words don't get married cause the odds are against ya

Never seen a Glock outshoot a Kimber. They have been seemingly having probs I'll give you that. Sold my Kimber rifle cause it was junk. Friends of mine have good ones, Id personally not suggest them. Their 1911s I've never seen a prob with. I have not have shot any new ones though.

Fair enough. Wanna add Kimber customer service sucks n they're known to return unfixed guns.

Buck master if you've tested it n it shoots for you God bless you. Nothing about a smooth bolt or looks though to me that, good triggers, fit n finish certainly matter, they still have cast parts n imo are not the best. Shoot what works for ya. I'm standing by my old 700 or new Tikka recommemdation. If you shoot better guns than what you're using you'll see. Shooting Glocks at 7 yards n Kimbers at 25-50 is a huge dif. How many shoot that far w a Glock? Prob gonna hear crickets here. But quality n buy once. It's cheaper.

Take em panfishing

Very cool guys!

Sorry guys my buddy Jimmy is in one pic, not sure how to erase n upload correct one

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Might be fun to show off some of the kids w game. Let's see some pics

I've shot most so nothing closed minded about it. Look it's like Glock, a friend of mine swears by em. My brother has one that actually shoots great. They're built on wide tolerances. If you get one on the closer end they do shoot, most don't. Now one cheap gun shooting better than another without extensive testing of loads, powder types, length of cartridge/brass, head types, etc etc means nothing. In fact it proves ignorance. If you did all that w only those two guns it proves lack of experience. It's like saying smoking won't kill you your aunt smoked 3 packs a day n lived to 100. It's a fluke not the norm

Why do you think someone would tag a kids deer? I don't know anyone who would. I don't carry a gun n never load a bow when I take kids. Even if they miss I'm not shooting. The bow is there only as a second shot at wounded game. I've never needed it. Same w turks, never do I shoot even in an open season if I have even a newbie never mind a kid

I respect your answer. Bear in mind though replacing a scope cost at least a few hundred n adds price

That's a good gun

That scope is good. Nikon is putting out decent optics for the money.

There's no confusing any accuracy. You can't talk bows w guns. Recurve accuracy n effective range is dif than compound or crossbow. A rifle is an instrument designed to shoot very accurately. Some companies only design to get your money. You're right about something if it sucks I dont own it.

Mathews actually isn't really all that bad. But they aren't better than many other companies. Reason I don't like em is cause of all the over marketing. They're kinda force feeding you n brain washing you into thinking they're the best. The no cam I shot n liked it. Z7, I liked too but not better than others. People are so easily swayed, if you shot a bunch of bows n came as Mathews as the best God bless you. If you went in really wanting a Mathews just because, you're a sheeple. Hey n I'm not a professional. I've been at it a long time n its all I do. I only form opinions after lots of exposure. Many years in fact. That being said, sometimes things change. The cheap guns havent. In fact even good guns have gotten worse. You sound young n if you are one day if you get a chance shoot a great gun, with a great trigger that shoots great groups. You won't need it but Id bet you buy one

Absolutely

If you'd keep a gun that shoots 2" groups we have nothing to talk about. Omg. That's bad. If you've owned 40 guns you must be a gun nut. Don't you care bout accuracy? Yes 2" will kill a deer but not in my hands. Maybe I just expect a gun to shoot

Grampy I wasn't bsshing you or anyone in particular. Just don't like guns not made well, or ones w inherent probs or sub standard manufacturing. No the deer doesn't know but buying things twice because the first one broke will let your bank know. We don't need frills or expensive guns just quality ones. Use whatever you like. Don't be offended if I'm not using them or have an opinion about how bad they are. I'm not downing anyone, I'm downing guns made like crap

Turkeyfeathers I understand the money issues. I respect that n you. That being said I've had more bushnells just fall apart than every other optic of any sort combined. So that being said it's cheaper n more financially sound to buy better items. You can use whatever you like though.