tony m

Post whatever you want.

Political discussion in the correct folder.

Ok. Go check out my new thread on another school shooting.

http://www.kget.com/news/local/story/10-15-a-m-UPDATE-Victim-airlifted-from-Taft-High/kRmx9keo9Eej_M1cMh7ASg.cspx

Alex Jones - The Honey Badger

Thanks for the link.

Alex Jones is a hyper guy that battled it out with morgan. Pratt was subdued and morgan called him a stupid man. I am not a follower of Jones but he has helped out in certain areas, like the dissolution of what transpired in Hardin, Montana and the American Police Force. If someone brings the show up, I state the Jones is hyper, thats the way he is, and obviously went on the show with a dislike for morgan. Shrugg it off as nothing and continue your own debate with points to the person your discussing this with. This next statement is for adults only. It is a comment a person made on another forum and tend to agree with it. "Especially ironic coming from a nation ruled for a thousand years by inbred tyrants, whose only claim to the throne is coming out of the right woman's snatch." Here is Ben Swann from Reality Check giving more facts for us to use concerning morgans main stat he brought up. and a funny one, with obscenities, posted on another forum in defending jones.

I don't believe any ballistic results have been released on the handguns. It's something that police officers would come across at the crime scene, where it has been stated that it had over a hundred of spent cartridge casings, and not be able to tell if they are handgun casings or .223 casings until two days later. Is that true?

You are correct about letters. If you handle yourself well in person, I suggest going to your NYS assembly and senate reps, and form a rapport with them. That is how to get into their heads. Glad your aboard.

There are 3 upstate NY dem senators who I would focus on. 1. Gipson 2. O'brien 3. Latimer These guys all won very close races and are representatives in Upstate NY where Hunting and Guns are a way of life, unlike the city which dominates the state of NY.

email received from SCOPE. **** NEW YORK FIREARMS BAN! SCOPE is sending this Alert to put all firearm owners on notice that the time to act is now. New York State has positioned itself to pass the most draconian gun laws in the nation. Governor Cuomo is pressing hard to push these bills through. Without a majority in the State Senate to block these measures; their passage is a very real possibility. We are asking all members to forward all SCOPE communications to concerned citizens on their contact lists and ask them to contact their legislators. Time is short and the consequences of inaction are unacceptable. These bills, with the Governor pushing for confiscation or a permit system for Modern Sporting Rifles, represent the biggest threats we have faced since 1968. You cannot relax if you do not own one of these rifles because they will divide and separate. Your firearms are next of their list if they succeed here. SCOPE’S leadership, while representing thousands of firearm owners through individual memberships and clubs, cannot fight this battle alone. This is your call to action. Your participation is no guarantee that we will win this important fight to protect your Constitutional rights but we can say with certainty that anything short of overwhelming our legislators with calls, emails and letters we have virtually no chance. Truth is the only thing that really motivates most legislators is their next election and by contacting your legislators and letting them know that your vote depends on their support is crucial. We are doing everything within our power to defend your rights, but remember we are an all-volunteer group and we need you to join us in these efforts. Here is the ACTION PLAN Forward this to your friends contacts and associates. Spread the word on Forums like NY Firearms with 6600 members or USA Carry with 45000 members or AR15.com with their 11,000 members etc Share on Face book etc. Pass this to at least 10 people that you know and plan to make some phone calls on Monday and Tuesday! The Governors State of the State Speech planned for Wednesday January 9 at 1:30 PM. Gun Owners, their families, friends and supporters of the Constitution need to invest a few minutes of their time and make some phone calls. On Monday and/or Tuesday of this week, prior to the State of the State Address, Call the Governor’s Office (518) 474-8390– AND LEAVE THIS MESSAGE: "I am a law abiding, tax paying, voting, citizen of New York State and I strongly urge you not to impose any further restrictions, laws or regulations on my Second Amendment Rights as granted by the United States Constitution". Then you call Senate Leader Skelos and Klein and leave the same message. Then you call Assembly Leader Silver and leave the same message. Please make these phone call messages to our ELECTED representatives. If the trunk lines into the capital become overloaded with call volume then so be it......this is the goal. WE MUST BE HEARD. While waiting, you can also access their respective web sites and voice your concern through email message. Write the same message as above or add your own but be civil. All phone numbers and links are listed below. Governor at (518) 474-8390, then click the link to leave a message http://www.governor.ny.gov/contact/G...ontactForm.php Senate Majority Co Leader Dean Skelos (518) 455-3171 http://www.nysenate.gov/senator/dean-g-skelos Senate Majority Co Leader Sen. Jeffrey Klein, D-Bronx 518-455-3595 http://www.nysenate.gov/senator/jeffrey-d-klein/contact and Sheldon Silver 518-455-3791 http://assembly.state.ny.us/mem/Sheldon-Silver/contact/ Make plans now to call on Monday or Tuesday! You should also forward this to every gun owner you know. Make them call too! Notify you clubs and organizations. WE MUST STAND TOGETHER! Read this article so you can understand what the power structure is this term. Call these IDC members which include: Senators Diane Savino, David Valesky, David Carlucci, and Malcolm Smith. Jeff Klein is in the lead. He's working with Skelos as co-majority leader of sorts. These five along with our Republican friends are gun owners only hope. Senators Diane Savino Phone: (518) 455-2437 Email Senator David Valesky Phone: (518)-455-2838 Email Senator David Carlucci Phone: 518-455-2991 Email Senator Malcolm Smith Phone: (518) 455-2701 Email Call your own Senator too. Use this tool to find your Rep Remember that the first phoney AWB we currently have was Introduced, Voted for and Signed in ONE DAY! Three Anti Gun Protesters stood in the cold outside of the Gander Mountain Store in Henrietta. We are asking you to make calls - email your reps and spread the word from the comfort of your own soon to be defenseless home. Shooters Committee on Political Education (SCOPE), P.O. Box 602 - Tonawanda, NY. 14151-0602 www.scopeny.org

This sounds like a really good idea. Could be a great idea. Is it a good idea or a great idea? lol ...

I got the scoop on this. coming soon. http://www.ammopit.com/ 7.62 x.39 will be the hardest to get. Response is, "...Too bad that caliber of brass is Euro style and not able to be reloaded.." It can be reloaded but takes more work I think because of the that casing..

Getting me hungry ...

This guy seems like a credible source. "They're setting up the stage for violence in this country."

You will not read anything better today than the first Amazon reviews on this toy US military drone: http://amzn.to/VDbPYZ First of many, but go to the page for more... "My son is very interested in joining the Imperial forces when he grows up. He says he's not sure if he wants to help police the homeland or if he wants to invade foreign countries. So I thought a new Predator drone toy would be a nice gift for him. These drones are used both domestically and internationally, to spy on people and assassinate them at the Emperor's discretion. He just loves flying his drone around our house, dropping Hellfire missiles on Scruffy, our dog. He kept saying that Scruffy was a terror suspect and needed to be taken out. I asked him if Scruffy should get a trial first, and he quoted Lindsay Graham, Imperial Senator: "Shut up Scruffy, you don't get a trial!" I was so proud. I think I'll buy him some video games that promote martial law for Christmas. "

Yes, as long as you can use the rifle in your district. Check.

Take this for what it is. I cannot verify if this guy is who he is stated as. However, there are good points made. 20 minute intefview that starts going through the points after the 8 minute point or so.

Supporting org's is good. But it's not good enough. Individuals have to get involved, themselves. Show numbers. There are numerous action to take. But people have to take on that responsibility themselves instead of only depending on others to do it.

Is the list compiled from an easy to navigate website? Can you provide a link? This is a good list. Thanks.

Why do believe breaking down info and therefore asking questions is not, good? I would have to go over it again. But that interview with the coroner has him not being able to answer a couple questions that he should have. A jury would question that, which then can lead to questioning evidence.

Yes, it does. Not disagreeing. The OP asked about what guns. I'm relaying when I heard about it which is a few days later.

It's not about people giving up their guns. Two government officials brought this idea forward as a response to the latest tragedy. The police and elected county sheriff are sponsoring. The media will be there, and the slant will most likely be not good for those who understand what the 2nd amendment maintains. Another voice should be present to at least try and get a fair unbiased report. It's either complain to each other or form rapports with the event organizers, attendees, and the media to achieve gaining some professional points. This is the way it works. Probably someday, those that did nothing now, will remembers those that did, later. At least it can't be said that we didn't try to do something.

Pardon? * * * The following article dated 12-30-12 seems to have a decent chronological follow through on information that has been released. Rifle found in Lanza's trunk not a Bushmaster After two weeks of media reports that a .223 AR-15 Bushmaster was found in the trunk of Lanza's car, gun aficionados point out that the rifle is not a Bushmaster, nor even an AR-class assault weapon. Gun experts say that the weapon shown in an NBC News report is some kind of shotgun. Read more: http://digitaljourna.../article/340113