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Bots are easy to detect, I have not seen any here unless I missed them. 3% is a good figure of those who spend as much time as they can trying to get hunters to do their own research; that what happens at the power level is going to effect us commoners tremendously, and negatively. I'm a hunter but this modern struggle for freedom puts hunting for sport low on importance. There are some people providing some good information here to read, to look into that subject matter more deeper - on their own. Helping hunters on this site, is not preaching to the choir as attending a 2A rally. It is on places like here where the only avenue for expanded information, not mainstream fed, happens for many. A free humanity is in deep trouble and the majority of people do not know it. Thank the 3%'ers for trying to help.

Will it or will it not. Time will tell.

Thanks for the link, a refresher for me. Isn't it something how, it seems, most of the wisdom for protecting the commoners from power is from a far past; and basically ignored in what is supposed to be the nation that represents what man has always quested for - to be free.

http://The Emperor’s New Clothes: The Naked Truth About the American Police State Written by John W. Whitehead - Tuesday July 8, 2014 “The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself… Almost inevitably, he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, and intolerable.” —H.L. Mencken, American journalist It’s vogue, trendy, and appropriate to look to dystopian literature as a harbinger of what we’re experiencing at the hands of the government. Certainly, George Orwell’s 1984 and Animal Farm have much to say about government tyranny, corruption, and control, as does Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World and Philip K. Dick’s Minority Report. Yet there are also older, simpler, more timeless stories — folk tales and fairy tales — that speak just as powerfully to the follies and foibles in our nature as citizens and rulers alike that give rise to tyrants and dictatorships. One such tale, Hans Christian Andersen’s fable of the Emperor’s New Clothes, is a perfect paradigm of life today in the fiefdom that is the American police state, only instead of an imperial president spending money wantonly on lavish vacations, entertainment, and questionable government programs aimed at amassing greater power, Andersen presents us with a vain and thoughtless emperor, concerned only with satisfying his own needs at the expense of his people, even when it means taxing them unmercifully, bankrupting his kingdom, and harshly punishing his people for daring to challenge his edicts. For those unfamiliar with the tale, the Emperor, a vain peacock of a man, is conned into buying a prohibitively expensive suit of clothes that is supposedly visible only to those who are smart, competent and well-suited to their positions. Surrounded by yes men, professional flatterers and career politicians who fawn, simper and genuflect, the Emperor — arrogant, pompous and oblivious to his nudity — prances through the town in his new suit of clothes until a child dares to voice what everyone else has been thinking but too afraid to say lest they be thought stupid or incompetent: “He isn’t wearing anything at all!” Much like the people of the Emperor’s kingdom, we, too, have been conned into believing that if we say what we fear, if we dare to suggest that something is indeed “rotten in the state of Denmark,” we will be branded idiots and fools by the bureaucrats, corporate heads, governmental elites and media hotshots who have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo—or who at least are determined to maintain the façade that is the status quo. Yet the truth is staring us in the face just as surely as the fact that the Emperor was wearing no clothes. Truth #1: The US is on the brink of bankruptcy, as many economists have been warning for some time now, with more than $16 trillion in debts owned by foreign nationals and corporations. As one financial news site reports: “Internationally, the world is fed up with The Fed and the US government’s unabashed debt growth. China, Russia, Iran, India and a host of other countries are establishing trade relationships that are bypassing the US dollar altogether, a move that will soon see the world’s reserve currency lose purchasing power and status. In anticipation of this imminent collapse gold is being hoarded by private and public entities from Berlin to Beijing in an effort to preserve wealth before the Tsunami hits.” Truth #2: We no longer have a government that is “of the people, for the people and by the people.” What we have now is a feudal monarchy, run by wealthy overlords and financed with the blood, sweat and labor of the underclasses who are kept in check by the increasingly militarized police. This sorry state of affairs is reinforced by a study which found that average citizens have “little or no independent influence” on the policy-making process. A similar study published by the Political Research Quarterly revealed that members of the US Senate represent their wealthiest constituents while ignoring those on the bottom rung of the economic ladder. Truth #3: Far from being a benevolent entity concerned with the well-being of its citizens, whether in matters of health, safety or security, the government is concerned with three things only: power, control and money. As an often quoted adage says, “Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.” Unfortunately, the master-servant relationship that once had the government answering to “we the people” has been reversed. Government agents now act as if they are the masters and we are the servants. Nowhere is this more evident than in the transformation of police officers from benevolent keepers of the peace to inflexible extensions of the military hyped up on the power of their badge. Truth #4: Our primary use to the government is as consumers, worker bees and bits of data to be collected, catalogued, controlled, mined for information, and sold to the highest bidder. Working in cahoots with corporations, the government has given itself carte blanche access to our phone calls, emails, bank transactions, physical movements, even our travels on foot or in our cars. Cybersecurity expert Richard Clarke envisions a future where data about every aspect of our lives will be collected and analyzed. Thus, no matter what the U.S. Supreme Court might have said to the contrary, the government no longer needs a warrant to spy on your cell phone activity or anything else for that matter. As the Washington Post recently revealed, 9 out of 10 people caught up in the NSA’s surveillance net had done nothing wrong to justify such intrusions on their privacy. Clearly, the government now operates relatively autonomously, answering only to itself and unbridled by the courts, Congress, the will of the people or the Constitution. Truth #5: Whatever problems we are grappling with in regards to illegal immigrants flooding over the borders has little to do with the fact that the borders are porous and everything to do with the government’s own questionable agenda. How is it that a government capable of locking down roads, open seas, and air routes is unable to prevent tens of thousands of women and children from crossing into the US illegally? Conveniently, the Obama administration is asking Congress for $3.8 billion in emergency funding to send more immigration judges to the southern border, build additional detention facilities and add border patrol agents. The funds would be managed by the Departments of Justice, Homeland Security, State and Health and Human Services, the very same agencies responsible for bringing about a rapid shift into a police state. Truth #6: The US government is preparing for massive domestic unrest, arising most likely from an economic meltdown. The government has repeatedly made clear its intentions, through its US Army War College report alerting the military to prepare for a “violent, strategic dislocation inside the United States,” through its ongoing military drills in cities across the country, through its profiling of potential homegrown “dissidents” or extremists, and through the proliferation of detention centers being built across the country. Truth #7: As Gerald Ford warned, “A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have.” Too often, Americans have fallen prey to the temptation to let the government take care of whatever ails them, whether it be financial concerns, health needs, childcare. As a result, we now find ourselves caught in a Catch-22 situation wherein the government’s so-called solutions to our problems have led to even graver problems. In this way, zero tolerance policies intended to outlaw drugs and weapons in schools result in young children being arrested and kicked out of school for childish behavior such as drawing pictures of soldiers and crying too much; truancy laws intended to keep students in school have resulted in parents being arrested and fined excessively; and zoning laws intended to protect homeowners have been used to prosecute residents who attempt to live off the grid. Truth #8: The US is following the Nazi blueprint to a “t,” whether through its storm trooper-like police in the form of heavily armed government agents, to its erection of an electronic concentration camp that not only threatens to engulf America but the rest of the world as well via NSA surveillance programs such as Five Eyes. Most damning of all is the Department of Homeland Security’s self-appointed role as a national police force, a.k.a. standing army, the fundamental and final building block for every totalitarian regime that has ever wreaked havoc on humanity. Indeed, just about every nefarious deed, tactic or thuggish policy advanced by the government today can be traced back to the DHS, its police state mindset, and the billions of dollars it distributes to police agencies in the form of grants. Truth #9: Not only does the US government perpetrate organized, systematic violence on its own citizens, especially those who challenge its authority nonviolently, in the form of SWAT team raids, militarized police, and roaming VIPR checkpoints, but it gets away with these clear violations of the Fourth Amendment because the courts grant them immunity from wrongdoing. Expanding its reach, the US also exports its violence wholesale to other countries through armaments sales and the use of its military as a global police force. Yet no matter how well trained, well equipped and well financed, America cannot police the world. As history shows, military empires, once over extended, inevitably collapse into chaos. Truth #10: As I make clear in my book A Government of Wolves: The Emerging American Police State, the United States of America has become the new battlefield. In fact, the only real war being fought by the US government today is the war on the American people, and it is being waged with deadly weapons, militarized police, surveillance technology, laws that criminalize otherwise lawful behavior, private prisons that operate on quota systems, and government officials who are no longer accountable to the rule of law. So there you have it: facts rather than fiction, so naked that a child could call it for what it is, and yet so politically inconvenient, incorrect and uncomfortable that few dare to speak of them. Even so, despite the fact that no one wants to be labeled dimwitted, or conspiratorial, or a right wing nut job, most Americans, if they were truly paying attention to what’s been going on in this country over the past few decades and willing to be truthful, at least to themselves, would have to admit that the outlook is decidedly grim. Indeed, unless something changes drastically for the good in the near future, it looks like this fairytale will not have a happy ending.

The New York State 24 year old woman who has more courage than most men of the state combined. *** A conservatively fun video of Gia Arnold as Rosie the Riveter running for New York State Senator. Grassroots as it gets. We were part of the team that spoke at the SCOPE Safe Act educational forums - Register Voters Not Guns. Gia has given courageous speeches on non-compliance and civil disobedience. Check out her website. http://www.Gia4Senate.com Don't see the video icon to embed the YouTube video for your convenience, so here is the link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8TGG_q-oSc

I meet many people at events who come up to me and introduce themselves. Blog owners, business owners, ... Yes, they usually are the freedom loving people who come up to me and thank me for what we do. You are an important person on this blog, no? It seems like you and I attend some same events. You have seen posts and comments I have made. Introduction from a common denominator is sociability. I didn't imagine you have difficulties, Your comment implied that you have. I offered a way you can contact me so I can help you with getting you through the article.

I'm not sure what cracked means, in the context you are using. Yes, he has articles with contents that go from one point to another. I have no trouble following it and during further research on points he makes that I am not that knowledgeable in yet.

Thanks for the link, I missed this article. Good read. Thanks for sharing.

What about this one? What specifically do you have issue with in the article?

What specific parts make you feel disjointed?

That got you lost? Maybe you should introduce yourself on this forum with your real name. I have vended at almost all gun shows and sportsman expo's in Western New York, have you come up to introduce yourself? I can help you learn again to overcome your difficulties. Give me a PM and I will forward you my phone number.

A terrific geo-political article by Paul Craig Roberts. Institute for Political Economy May 25, 2014. Why War is Inevitable http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/05/25/war-inevitable-paul-craig-roberts/

Met Moss, we understand him as a rights guy. Establishment doesn't like people like this and try to reel them in to shut them down. They have successfully done this our way. People from Moss's area will know later if this is what will happen to him or will he maintain his stance.

For the those who haven't watched. American school kids expelled for making guns out of sandwiches. Russian gym classes teach AK47 assembly and safety classes. The other day I was able to embed a video. Today that movie icon is not showing on the editor. Something changed? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrxjYfl05ek

It is slowly going to happen in each state. Texas is having much liberalization, especially in Austin. We have been spending more and more time in Pennsylvania getting the resistance word moving there also besides NYS. We are working on having a Northeast Coalition develop in unity.

Not Kolb. He's system. Follows orders.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XLD4TRhat0&feature=youtu.be Wild! Wild! Wild! Dyngus Day Parade on the East Side of Buffalo, NY - Polonia, is very sentimental to all of us who grew up in these neighborhoods. That is why this event seems like it is about to explode from raw emotion (and beer). Our FREEDOM Float is a smashing success to the slowly awakening throngs of commoners. Pic' Piwo Sto lat na zdrowie! (Drink Beer for a hundred years to your health!) See you all next year! *** Buffalo News http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/buffalo/polonia-bursts-with-pride-20140421 *** Purchase your FREEDOM apparel at http://www.AmericanFreedomApparel.com Your SHIRT. Your VOICE. Inspire FREEDOM. Thank you to Carrie for setting up the float and driving, Dave for partnering the big guns, Zack for passing the ammo, Steve and friends from SCOPE, and Sheriff Howard and helpers for supporting us on. What a terrific crowd everywhere! *** SCOPE https://www.facebook.com/pages/SCOPE/117271511690653

http://www.wgrz.com/videos/news/local/new-york/2014/04/15/7753801/ *** Despite deadline, protesters ‘will not comply’ with SAFE Act Chants at the rally included “We will not comply” and “Cuomo’s got to go.” Some of the signs included: “Millions of Gun Owners Hurt No One Yesterday” and “You Won’t Get Gun Control By Disarming Law Abiding Citizens.” Some at the rally wore “Repeal New York SAFE Act” T-shirts or shirts that called for a “New York Resistance” encouraging people to “Join Your Local Militia” and “Do Not Register Your Guns,” while several passing motorists, including an Niagara Frontier Transportation Authority patrol vehicle, honked in support. http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/despite-deadline-protesters-8216will-not-comply8217-with-safe-act-20140415 *** Gun owners shred documents to protest SAFE Act Those who don’t comply with the SAFE Act’s requirements could face a misdemeanor charge of failure to register their weapons, up to a felony charge for illegal possession of an assault weapon. Protesters shredded registration documents in front of the Walter J. Mahoney State Office Building during a protest from 4:30 to 7:00 PM Tuesday – symbolic, they say, of how state lawmakers “shredded” their Constitutional rights. http://wivb.com/2014/04/15/gun-owners-shred-documents-to-protest-safe-act/ *** http://www.wkbw.com/news/SAFE-Act-Protest-Brings-Gun-Activitst-to-Downtown--255397971.html

It seems like Gia Arnold will have to carry the load of New York State men who do not have courage. Gia speaks at our SCOPE - Register Voters Not Firearms forums across WNY. She is 24, married, mother of three, small business owner, home owner, simple yet comfortable lifestyle. She speaks on Non-Compliance and Civil Disobedience. She will not comply and knows which ever outcome is for a free future for her kids and mankind. When she hits her hard points, I look around at all the men in the room to gauge what they are witnessing. Men need to watch her so they can learn about courage. Here is a video of her before the forums started and covers some of her material. She is also running for NYS Senate agains Maziarz. If more men were like her ... Warren county speech on civil disobedience - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asjCygM1nXA Gia announces Senate run - http://www.wnypapers.com/news/article/current/2014/04/09/115659/gia-degennaro-arnold-announces-for-state-senate

http://amgoa.org/Open-Carry-PA-Court-Victory-Rally!/Gun-Rights-Rally/92 facebook - https://www.facebook.com/events/673829939348601/ This is a rally to come together and celebrate our victory over having guns in parks. After a long court battle we won. So we are asking that every one join us for this event. All guns are welcome. Please be responsible with your firearm. We will meet before the rally for the people that are already here for lunch at the same place we ate last time. Speakers as of right now... Larry Pratt of the GOA, Kim Stolfer President & Chairman of FOAC, Blueseph Vancottenstien founder of Lehigh Valley Open Carry, Pastor George Cook, Kyle Bable, MRS. MARIA HEIL Board of directors, Joshua Prince lawyer. This event will be rain or shine. Be there and rub elbows with a victory!

Mr. King might represent the majority of average Americans who have been re-educated away from history. His comments point him in that direction. I'm sure a sit down conversation topic'ed on core causes of rights infringement would help.

People who know something is wrong, drawn together for music, education, and the quest for freedom. A fine rally. One person did a heck of a lot of work to build an elaborate art piece of a hanging tree with a tyrant hanging from it. It was a decent size sapling with branches and an almost life size body. It stood quite tall. The hours put into that construction is to be respected. Many women and children present. Madison Rising entertained with a young persons rendition of the Star Spangled Banner to start their set. The band was not too loud. A terrific turnout of vendors. Vendor alley was packed from start to finish. Definately a great place to hang out and gain more Patriot vibe. Sherriff Howard. Need more like him. Trump, Paladino, and Astorino. The people heard from them. Not sure what is going to happen but usually when a system state party chair coddles a candidate, that candidate is a sytem establishment guy. Is that what people want? It was a beautiful sunny day, in a great venue, with superbly behaved rally guests. Thank you to all those that attended. See you in a few months ... And, hopefully you all will be heading up with us to Connecticut this Saturday and support Americans there. Also, don't forget to attend the Open Carry Victory Rally at Perry Square in Erie, Pa., on April 12th. We'll be there, bandoliered. We will have more Safe Act Educational Forums coming up soon. We just finished a ring tour from Endicott, Mayville, Lackawanna, Gasport, Leiceister, and Palmyra. Isn't it great to keep attending the forums and rally's; meeting new Patriots every week? I love it and hope you do to. http://www.AmericanFreedomApparel.com

I will be glad to answer your questions. But first, lets discuss the documents I linked to in this thread http://huntingny.com/forums/topic/17403-think-you-wont-be-required-to-turn-in-your-guns/?p=224758. I notice you keep insinuating to folks as "conspiracy theorists" and such. You asked for proof of topics. I gave some hard core government docs and you have ignored it. I also asked you if you wanted some more links, and there was no response. You want answers to your questions? Go read those docs and lets see what kind of critical thinking skills you have. Because from reading the way you position yourself, you have put a spotlight on yourself as just another American who accepts what they are being fed.

Studying and research has you correct. Easily. The far majority of Americans do not read and study. I have posted links to some very important government documents. The post ended after that. It seems, probably no one even read them who carry the mainstream persona present here. Otherwise, the discussion would be about the documents. But that has not happened. The puts a question mark over those who continue to carry forward the establishment media style.

Does it matter? People have to step up to the plate and gain courage. Throughout my vending across the state, I am finding out that the majority of hunters are not grasping the severity of what is happening. Self defense and hunting with firearms, is a natural state. It's about power, inventory, and control. Historically, nothing new. http://www.NationalResistanceGear.com