Don't Continue to Subsidize Anti Hunting!

[jjb4900]

seriously, for all who signed or thought about signing this petition, take the time to look at the organization associated with it............I feel like fool for just signing on the face of how it was presented without research...HOPEFULLY the guy who presented it here will prove me wrong.

[mike rossi]

seriously, for all who signed or thought about signing this petition, take the time to look at the organization associated with it............I feel like fool for just signing on the face of how it was presented without research...HOPEFULLY the guy who presented it here will prove me wrong.

 

This is a third-party petition host site. We used it twice and so far, between both petitions with close to 1,000 total signatures, you are the third person to raise this.

 

First, of all, no matter who takes credit for the recent VETO of the mute swan law that was passed almost anonymously by the senate and assembly, NYDH's petition was a significant impact. If it was our petiton and our outreach which informed and engaged others. And that is what the goal of NYDH is to advise and engage stakeholders and policy makers, not to drive politics and lay claim to "credit" for achieved goals.

 

Secondly, people involved in causes often are indeed  advocates of animal rights. People that hunt have not yet started to exploit electronic petitions. The host site has no reason to add a category "Pro Hunting". Did this site (hunting ny dot com) adopt my suggestion to add forums covering dog training, dove hunting, and conservation? No they did not, I was told stick it in small game... Its not big enough...

 

NYDH can pay the petition site for advertising and to push its petitions, Just like the other groups, But where is that money coming from, the bank of mike rossi? And why would we advertise there, the root of this conversation is hunters don't use it, should I advertise to the antis?

 

Finally, we are working on petition software that we can use on our own website, until then our only option is a third party petition host site. Among those sites, the user demography is similar, the one we chose, is most user friendly, however.

 

I think its time the old guard stops undermining our efforts. Heed what we tell the politicians, NYDH will be around a lot longer than they will.  

Edited January 29, 2015 by mike rossi

[Curmudgeon]

This is a third-party petition host site. We used it twice and so far, between both petitions with close to 1,000 total signatures, you are the third person to raise this.

 

 

Actually, I was pleased the third-party site was used. The Mute Swan lovers also used it. Equal opportunity!

[mike rossi]

Actually, I was pleased the third-party site was used. The Mute Swan lovers also used it. Equal opportunity!

 

Yeah, we were side by side - 60,000 of them signed two petitions that made no sense at all and a tad over 300 signed ours that did make sense... And we got the nod... 

[Curmudgeon]

Yeah, we were side by side - 60,000 of them signed two petitions that made no sense at all and a tad over 300 signed ours that did make sense... And we got the nod... 

 

So, if we make sense to Cuomo, will he do what we want?

 

Being a natural cynic, I wonder why he made the decision the way he did.

 

[mike rossi]

So, if we make sense to Cuomo, will he do what we want?

 

Being a natural cynic, I wonder why he made the decision the way he did.

 

 

The DEC, the union of ornithologists,and others were listened to, he allowed science to guide his decision.

 

FYI: We pointed out something to him that did resonate in his commentary about why he VETOED the bill. The governor was clearly aware that the DEC already did the things the law would have mandated (research, population survey, literature review); already included many of the strategies in its plan which the law would have mandated; and had agreed to adopt some of the strategies absent in the plan which were suggested during public review; thus was also aware that the law was obviously unnecessary and merely an attempt to control the DEC and empower animal rights organizations...