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I went to Tioga when I was a kid, it was fun, and a lot cheaper back then. Checked out their site yesterday. Prices went way up, and they have a bunch of different price brackets for pigs. Makes me wonder how many times people want a cheaper pig, then shoot and have the guides say "oops wrong pig, that one costs more".

Carefull me and him are bff's now. Its all about finding a bug with proper wingspan, I could go into bug biology but it would bee over your head. And yes I spelled be that way on purpose.

We kill animals don't we?? And killing leads to death, don't it?? How a hunter can say that there are NO lessons to be learned about death while hunting is beyond me. If there is NO lesson to be learned, then our killing of the animal has little significance and we might as well just leave it laying in the field. Your trophy then has little value and the meat I get from a deer should not be treasured anymore than a McDonalds hamburger. I myself think there are plenty of lessons to be learned from the death we see in hunting. It even makes some of us reflect on our own inevitable deaths and of those we love. Today it was the deers turn to take it's last gasp in life, in the future it will be our turn. It is one thing that ALL life forms have in common. A good thing to keep in back of our minds in my opinion.

What matters here is that this deer was legally harvested. If DEC could find any wrong doing they would have. All this talk about unethical and tame deer is nothing but a bunch of BS. The care taker could have been a good friend of his or yet a family member. I'm sure there is plenty more areas in so called tree hugging community that this could have been done in legally also. With the prices of a NY hunting license, and the restrictions and laws placed upon us to legally hunt a deer in NY that has other BIG deer states laughing at us, the word unethical doesn't exist in my vocabulary.

I have read many times that we all have a right to our own opinion so why do some have a problem with the opinions of slitting the throat of a deer under certain conditions? How one feels about this is a personal feeling that is neither right or wrong. There are lessons learned from every aspect of hunting and if this is one of them. But some people just want to tell everyone that their opinions don't count but theirs does. No one knows how a deer really feels and can't speak for them. Dave 6x6 I agree with you on this one.

Honestly- its hard to know the details of the hunt without having heard from the hunter himself. If the deer was taken legally thats good enough for me. He was likely more wary than all the yearling bucks that commit suicide every fall. That being said- I would be a lot more satisfied taking any mature buck in the Adirondacks still hunting than I would with a buck in the burbs.

Whoa-whoa-whoa- that was a cheapshot, and off topic. You should have seen the poor buck fawn we found alive on thanksgiving with his ass blown apart and gangrene setting in. The only thing he was thankful for was a bullet in his head. All types of weapons wound and lose deer. There is nothing inhumane about bowhunting. At least the last thing a bow shot deer sees isn't a smiling human.

Looks like the rut's on.

The key is to go for the jugular, this cause's a rapid bleed out death. Its not a story I care to share on a public forum.

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Nope, you need to hunt farm/vineyard areas.