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  1. 1 hour ago, DirtTime said:

    This is actually a serious question and in no way am I being sarcastic or negative. Do deer being grown like you do for work actually grow antlers the same as wild deer or does the gene manipulation ( for lack of a better term on my part ) cause them to grow differently? I have always wondered about that to be honest.

    . A Whitetail is a Whitetail regardless of which side of the fence they are on. Besides the better blood, better care and no stress they are the same animal. Blood flow is what grows antlers and until the amount of daylight signals the glands of a whitetail to stop flowing blood they will continue to grow. Hence you see a bucks rack grey up a bit except for the points and tips, they continue to be darker because they continue to get blood flow and continue growing. 

  2. 28 minutes ago, G-Man said:

    No usually till end of july then mineralization happens during august with velvet peal end of august beginning of sept.. 

     Not in my world. Last 2 of July and first 2 of August continue showing black tips and black tips are making inches. Frames are done except points and mass is pretty much made but those points will continue into August for many. 

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  3. 22 minutes ago, johnplav said:

    Looking good.  Do you have good/bad years?  Or is each relatively the same since you’re controlling most factors?

    Truthfully the only difference in years is the difference in doe and buck fawns. And those of course spell out your bottom line for the year. If you can average 20-30 buck fawns a year and continue that pace and the market continues to go at 3 to 7 grand each the good/bad factor is the bottom line.  Now there are bad years as far as luck if you lose animals to sickness or say yotes harassing some and they jump into fences or such and break legs or necks.                   The good is always there in the lifestyle and freedom of life everyday to decide what your day will consist of.   To be able to have everyday of hunting seasons off or taking a week or two vacation whenever the need arises can’t be beat.   It’s nothing like raising most other livestock where one is locked down to the farm. 

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  4. 5 hours ago, Waterfowler said:

    Well I definitely don’t lose sleep over it. It is just not hunting. Should be Advertised as shooting of genetically modified livestock in a cage. But it does make real hunting look bad. Everything nowadays just caters to lazy people. And I’m not bashing him personally, he’s taking advantage of a legal market for it. Shouldn’t be legal IMO. 

      Everything nowadays?  After 23 years I would have to say you are a tad off on your estimation. 

  5. 5 hours ago, suburbanfarmer said:

    If I ever started a farm like this, I will have to quit deer hunting..Just wont be able to the see the wild ones same way.

     Won’t ever happen to a real sportsman as far as quitting hunting.  It no doubt has changed my hunting as far as size of deer I will kill. 

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  6. 13 hours ago, land 1 said:

    what do u care as long as its a legal business, not my type of thing but honestly why does it bother you, im guessing it does the way you asked your question? some guy is making a living do what he likes and working hard

    There is always a few in every crowd. Some never see the good side of things I guess. 



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  7. 4 hours ago, wolc123 said:

    Definitely a shooter.  I am guessing 3.2 years old based on body size.  I see 3 points on each side, plus he likely has brow tines, making him a nice symmetric 8.  The problem with those spindly racked bucks around my area, is the ratio is so scewed from heavy antlerless pressure from farmers with nuisance permits.  The remaining bucks always knock the crap out of each other fighting for the few does which make it to the rut.  He would likely be down to just 5 or 6 points by the time I could get my crossbow on him.

    That is not a big deal for me, because it's mostly about the meat anyhow.  It looks like he is packing plenty of that.  I have yet to find a good recipe for antlers.  As you are well aware, my favorite time to kill a buck, is when it is 6 months old, but 3.5 is second best.  Hopefully, I can nail one of each this year.

    He won’t make it on my list but might make one of the friends day. 

  8. 1 hour ago, Robhuntandfish said:

    im hoping it will be fun.  Gonna post the info etc Sept 1 and will see how it goes.  I tried to make it easy to do and something to BS about.  Its not gonna be like a NFL fantasy league thing - for the simple reason that im not keeping track of all that!  lol  

    Can’t blame you there. Not much into that myself but fun idea for sure. 

  9. 58 minutes ago, Biz-R-OWorld said:

    I've gotten 1 bear on cam in my life. Never seen one in NY. I, too, would love to get a NY bear.

    Come North. We have them all over.  First pic is one I got from Letchworth the other day.  Getting more down there also




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  10. 3 hours ago, mowin said:

    Sounds like a fun job for sure. Do you ever let people tour your facility?  I'd love to if I'm ever in the area. 

    Always people stopping in. Especially when I put the bucks up front near the road. Shocked there has been no wrecks yet with all the rubbernecking. 

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  11. 7 minutes ago, Biz-R-OWorld said:

    that black plastic fence looks low. They cant jump that?

    They have.  That’s just the handling facility so they get ran right back thru.  Only happened a couple times in all these years. And that’s only 6ft.  

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  12. 31 minutes ago, crappyice said:

    Do you ever get some ornery deer that just need to be “asked to leave” prior to them achieving their full potential?
    They seem like such a docile animal (The rut must be insane to watch inside the pen) the it is hard for me to imagine one or two really “going postal”

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    Like most other animals there is a pecking order and they live by it. It’s usually the young yearlings  that do all the fighting. Put a 2-3yr old in the pen of yearlings and he keeps them in line.    Also anyone that does not leave any givin year get their headgear removed so when they do get after each other during the year there is no death from sticking each other. They just push each other with whatever bases I leave on their heads. But they will battle till one gives the head banging shoving match. 

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  13. 4 hours ago, grampy said:

    I love deer, and watching them. Pretty cool to make a nice livelyhood out of doing that I think. Though high fence hunting is not for me, or FS either, (as he hunts the other side). Supplying for the demand of it, is work that many of us might enjoy. Though no doubt dealing with all the rules and regulations may be a real pain. Nothing wrong with having a nice gig that you enjoy doing, and pays well.

    Thanks for the new pictures! Keep em coming. Cool to see what selective breeding turns out. 

    You don’t know how right you really are. To be able to live with these animals is really a blessing. Crazy how every one is always different 

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  14. 57 minutes ago, suburbanfarmer said:

    I would like to keep them as pets if possible and make some money on the side with their stuff :)

    Lol. Ya it’s been a pretty sweet ride the last 20 plus years without a real job.                       Just selling their “Stuff”

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  15. 2 hours ago, stubborn1VT said:

    Some fawns die of "natural causes" like malnutrition and exposure.  Some die in accidents.  If you think about balance in nature, then it does make sense.  This was from a series of studies I read about in an article from Meateater.  One of the points of the article was that predators get blamed for fawn deaths because they clean up the sick and dead.  

    In regards to Lawd's post about a fawn being doomed: A healthy fawn is going to make it more often than you might think.

    Unless a property has a Real vermin issue and then you will see the vermin 10 times more then you will a fawn or young turkeys or about any kind of small game. Proven!  Vermin will ruin a piece of property quick.      But also pretty easy to solve the issue. 

  16. On 6/3/2021 at 7:22 PM, Jeremy K said:

    I cant even see one antlered deer worth shooting LOL 

      The small yearlings are much easier for some. They don’t have a Worth card.                Any 3inch spike fits their Worth. 

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