Four Seasons

Side of the nose and let er rip.

Looks rough for sure. I would say your guess is right. Ate away while sleeping.

Well yes. We are happy to see you stop by and once again offer nothing of use to this site. You once again want to run your yap? Prove me wrong!!!

Have A Great One!!

Everyone should be pissed about any government overreach for sure. And if you had a couple days to sit down and actually see the truths in black and white and not all the banter coming from those that either have an agenda against an industry or a white coat that uses the banter to get money from the federal government so they can continue to get rich researching the same things over and over again for the last 60 years when the disease and the animals themselves have shown everyone just how harmless they really are. Man sticking their noses into mother natures business once again. I can tell you one thing that will be another fact… If those that are working right now in our federal government to stop the wasting of money that’s been going on for years puts a hammer on all this over and over again research you will see CWD go by the way of Ebola or Covid for that matter. It will be history.

lol. Sound angry by giving the 100% facts? Definitely should piss anyone off of all the government overreach headed in one direction without a doubt. Personally all CWD has done to me is stop me from buying any animals from outside the state to bring in. That was simply fixed by me learning how to Ai breed my own does. If anything it improved my business because anyone in Ny that wants to buy bucks to fill their hunting preserves have to buy Ny animals or my better genetics in the does has to buy Ny deer. But I can still sell to most all other states. We are in the process of building our 3rd farm in the state because even with pushing 300 head we still can’t fill the hunting preserves demand. After quitting my real job at 30 years old to just raise Whitetails to 61 so far this industry has been life changing for me and mine but to sit back and listen to the uneducated and watching the agendas of some that do not like high fence gets edgy at times. Not sure how the words of the truths sound angry but I guess they really should. You would have to think of something in the way you do your deer hunting on your land and then have a pile of your neighbors coming up with all kinds of lies or falsehoods that you do to those animals over and over when in fact it’s 100% not true. Not sure if that would even be a strong enough accusation. Maybe it’s just your pissed after reading all the facts of the overreach by government and the uneducated speak of others??

Google how much money states get from the federal government for so called CWD research and for how many years and then look what that research has came up with year after year after year. And then use your god givin common sense and look at what this so called big bad disease has done anywhere in any state. You will answer your own question. I will give you a very simple one. If this disease is really as bad as they want you to believe it is and they 100% know from their research that corn and alfalfa and other crops allow the prions to be instilled in them from the soil into their stems and corn why do they not stop the movements and sales of these crops from any CWD positive states? These crops are sold at every feed store, every Tractor Supply or Runnings or anywhere else the stuff is sold in fact moving the CWD across the country. We are allowed to hand feed animals CWD ourselves. That won’t be halted because it’s billions of dollars in sales. These crops are not just sold in this country but every country. All the same prions we are talking here that are involved in Scrapies in sheep and CWD in deer. Mind you that sheep farms can farm right thru Scrapies, even positive farms and move animals to other farms across the country and sell meat to meat markets that hit stores all across the country with just an ear tag and a vet Health certificate… which is just a visual check Now when it comes to Whitetails a farmer has the be 5 years CWD tested before they can even be certified to sell animals… meaning they have to raise and feed their animals for 5 years and killing 10% of their numbers every year just to test to see if they have it and every natural death to see if they have it. All the while mind you of not being able to bring in any income at all from those animals for 5 years. 1000’s of dollars in feed, health and everyday care for 5 years. I could go on for hours here but any person with half a brain can see the big picture when it comes to CWD and its uses when it’s agenda driving.

lol. You spoke volumes… Researcher…. There you have it. Follow the money trail Did you listen to one minute of that podcast? My question to you and I don’t give two shits what you do for a living…. Prove the words that I have spoken on this subject above is wrong and not in fact the facts!!!!

The powers that be will not accept a blood test or an anal test as proof that they don’t have CWD. Some states actually accept that a lymph node positive is a real positive when it’s not. The only true way to know an animal has CWD prions is from the brain stem. Hence all the zombie deer craziness and such. You want to hear the best one? A deer farm has to Tb test their animals every 3 years with a test that is in the high 80% level correct and they accept that as a deer that does not have TB. Well the CWD test is also in the 80’s also but they will not accept that a deer that does not have CWD. lol. With CWD and Whitetails all one has to do is follow the money trail. We are now breeding CWD out of farmed Whitetails just like they bred z Scrapies out of sheep. Nothing is 100% successful so there will always be a deer fall thru the cracks and become positive just as there are still sheep that do but the day will come when there won’t be much CWD behind wire where it will be loaded in the wild. The funnier thing is that the states that tried to use CWD to shut down farms only improved their business because they scared people so bad about the harmless disease that more people are now filling their freezers with animals from behind fences. Tested CWD free animals.

Yup. And now the talk of credit cards being used to track ammo purchases. Gotta love this state. Cash and Vermont for all your ammo needs. Great views on the drive and great selections on the shelves. Win-Win.

Yeah. Kinda like dealing with the facts. It’s even fun to listen to others useless banter at times on subjects they obviously are totally clueless about. Till next time!

Another uneducated statement from someone that has no knowledge of the subject. So I took the liberty to do just what you asked… which is what I already knew.. and put that out here for you to get some education So a deer can’t move across state lines at all in some states and every deer farmer in any state has to be CWD certified for 5 years…. Meaning 10% of the herd or every death before they can even move a deer in state or out of state And now with your sheep as you say that are oh so regulated need nothing but an ear tag and to have health papers from a vet!!!!! Which means all they do is look at them!!! Scrapies or CWD which are the same exact prion can’t be found unless the animal is dead!!!! So you try and tell me that the Scrapies animals are regulated more the deer/elk CWD animals??? What a joke!! Now how about you tell the class how states with CWD and Scrapies can move hay or corn across state lines into local feed stores to be sold to the public without any oversight???? Follow the Money and you will have your answers to this whole Harmless CWD hoax This Troll has forgotten more about the CWD hoax then you will ever know

No clue but what a cool find. Man can you imagine back in the day. Big ole Grizz comin down on ya and the cap falls off being on the bottom! Man, Folks had to deal with some stuff back in the day.

True that. Ya see you still fail to tell me why one animal or one product can move but not the other? All in the name of fighting the same disease??? Care to tell the class what these strict and burdensome rules are for sheep farmers??? I will continue to wait another 10 years for your answer because you will never come up with something that does not exist. Fairly strict for just the one animal but total shut down of the other animal. All in the name of fighting the same disease?? You don’t have to try and change my mind over anything. How about just an answer to these questions with something of some kind of sense?? We will continue to wait. In the meantime while you run from a ghost can you show any damage to animal or man from the last 60 years of chasing their tail? And last but not least. These rules harm the everyday deer Hunter as much or even more then any deer farm in CWD positive states. And now we wait.

Well. After 60 years of CWD in deer and lord knows how many years of Scrapies in sheep which is the same prion and lack of any animal die off’s or human issues of any kind common sense says we are in pretty good shape. They continue to get handed millions of dollars to do research on what? The same exact stuff over and over. I agree if it ever was an issue I would be all for the research and such. But to only use the prion scare when it involves deer and we never hear a word about the Scrapies cases there is a problem and points to an agenda. Just like hunters can’t bring deer back from a CWD positive state dead or alive but can bring sheep all across the country? Problem!! Can’t bring a deer head across lines but can haul all the corn and alfalfa you want from CWD positive states after this research has 100% shown that the CWD prions travel up and into these products from the soil? Problem!! Again just follow the $$$$ and you will get many answers.

The population dwindles because they bait and shoot all the deer looking for the harmless crap. The Wisconsin herd has rebounded after the kill off and with CWD to having more animals and they are still positive.

Exactly. If there were even remotely proof that the stuff killed animals it would be one thing. The Prions are the same exact Prions found in Scrapies in sheep and we have been living with that for the last 60 years without all the banter. The white coats found a way to get funding to get their paycheck and then the DNR of some states found an opening to try and use it against high fence. Didn’t Work. Just like anything else, if there is no demand then the product will fail. Well high fence grows yearly with people making great $$$. Now my other question is where is all the studies done on EHD that 100% kills 1000’s of deer yearly and they can be found littered across the countryside by the 100’s yet no testing or no white coat funding for that. That’s in part because they can’t come back at all on high fence for it so it stays silent. Just open your eyes, use common sense the good lord gave ya and you will come up with the answers on just what CWD isn’t !!

So if that’s your line of thinking what’s your answer to all the states that have no deer behind fence yet have it in the wild in the last 60 years? Or the states that have had fenced deer for years and years and have never had a case but have had it in the wild for just as many years? You do realize the first cases of it were wild deer? Not fenced. Regardless CWD is now and has always been a political money grab. CWD has done no harm to any herds in any states ever. You don’t see mass die off of animals like you do the real deer killer in EHD. Ever. CWD will go by the way of Covid here very soon when the federal government stops handing out money for these white coats to keep researching the same thing over and over and coming up with nothing. You want to see some info. Google how much money goes to states for CWD issues and then ask yourself where that kind of money goes. An easy look of the stupidity is the state of Wisconsin. When they found it and went absolutely nuts and they killed off almost the whole herd because of a couple cases. Saying that CWD would be the end all of their herds. Well don’t ya know. The herds rebounded in a matter of 5 years to twice as many animals then they had at kill off time. And with CWD. Go on a hunting site in that state and read how many hunters never ever got their deer tested. And they are not walking zombies. Maybe look at the state of Oklahoma that now allow private land owners to buy and release farmed deer onto their no fence property to improve their deer size and genetics. After 60 plus years and what CWD itself has shown people exactly what it’s not doing to deer anywhere I’m amazed it’s ever even talked about anymore anywhere. I believe when those leading our government today see they wasted money going on there CWD will be a thing of the past pretty soon. Go Trump!!!

My guess is they will take as many permits….. If it’s even legal… as they can from those that don’t recert. I think a person could fight that take if they had the $$$ means. If I were them I would just do it but be ready for something stupid. Or this could just be a ploy to scare us and to get us legal type to step in line and give them all the info they want. After all it’s the legal pistol owner that takes all the bullshit in this Democratic ran state.

Yup. Did mine last month. They are not going to remind anyone. So Stupid!

Got a text from our Nextdoor neighbor last week saying there were are 40-50 timing the fields around the farm. Of course with the park right there the Highbanks Road is never short on numbers.

Always wanted to do a hunt up in the wilds of Canada somewhere for a big chocolate horned beast in late winter. One of those box blind cold weather sittings.

Man that is cool. You have a pile of them out there. And all that daytime movement. That screaming in the middle of the night could make some hairs stand up.

Cool how those little dogs have no fear even if the rat is almost as big as them. Nasty Rats!!!

Have a flock of 75-100 birds use my farm every year. Looks like these boys came up for a few stones in their diet.