YoungBucksTasteBetter

FYI..something I think we can all agree on as an item worth watching. With the Kenyan socialist in the White House, it's not clear that the US Constitution will be given first consideration when it comes time to ratify this treaty. http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=7004

Direction is to move doe harvest under DMP only. While the draft plan doesn't say this, somewhere in this topic there is a clarification that bow/ml hunters will still get a tag, but it won't be the either sex / antlerless tags you have been getting. I heard the same at a recent club meeting - DMP will become the only way you'll be allowed to take a doe.

Karma caught up with me on this one..had a Momma/Cub out in the wife's garden last night and again at first light this morning - - had me out there talking loudly and clapping my hands to move 'em along (with a can of bear spray at the ready). They left, but only after staring at me long enough to let me know it was their idea, not mine.

Actually I've heard the way to outrun them is bring a buddy with you...in case of a bear encounter, just make sure you can outrun your buddy......

Looking forward to it...oldest youngster is finally old enough to hunt in NY!!! Anyone try for them with a .17 HMR? (and if so, are all the stories of lost meat true?)

Region 3 biologist was at Ulster County Federation meeting on Thursday night and re-iterated that this wasn't a one buck rule -- a tag will come with bow / muzzleloader license but it will be buck only as the direction is to move all antlerless harvest under the DMP system.

That does suck...we were just there in April and kids took a bucket full of fish out of the place. I guess that's the last time I'll recommend them to anybody. Hopefully you find a better place to take your girls.

3C / Northern end of Ulster County. I have a group of 3 hens that work their way around the house every morning helping me keep the lawn tick-free. Only one of them nested successfully - she started out with 9 poults, she's down to 5 as of Thurs morning.

It's an animal species so rare the trophy hunting community hasn't yet found a bunch of reasons to tell us we can't harvest it...a deer-less whitetailed antler. From the spread on the 2 side beams, and the slight downward tilt of the main body, I'd say this is a 3.5 year old.

The DEC 2010 deer harvest summary shows breakout by county and town, so you can see the quantity of deer taken by area. There are couple of tables in there regarding antler points on deer taken, but I don't think it gives you the size data you were looking for: http://www.dec.ny.gov/docs/wildlife_pdf/2010deerrpt.pdf I don't have a copy here anymore, the I think NY Fish and Game magazine does an hunting preview every year where it highlights best hunting by county - - I think they get into antler/deer size stats you are looking for there.

Since this was a bear with cubs - note the restriction in the Southern zone as well: "In the Southern Zone, you may not shoot a cub or a bear that should be known to be a cub, shoot any bear from a group of bears, or shoot or take a bear from it's den"

Same guy (Henry Lamb) with a post from 2011 (I figured something more current than the 1999 post would be good): http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/lamb/110214

You make a good point..I had to do a little digging because I only vaguely remember the food fight over this in Congress in the late '90s. Here's a quote from an old article from that time that addresses the core issue: "The United Nations Environment Program (UNEP) then (1995) published the "Global Biodiversity Assessment,"an 1140-page instruction book for the implementation of the 18-page treaty. Page 993 of this massive document clearly states that "The Wildlands Project" is "central" to the implementation of the Convention on Biological Diversity. The Wildlands Project, written by Dr. Reed Noss (with grants from The Nature Conservancy and the Audubon Society), seeks to set aside "at least" 50 percent of North America as "core wilderness areas," off-limits to human beings, and then "manage" most of the rest of the land as "buffer zones" around the core areas." I'm not sure what makes me feel worse - the idea that the UN has mandate over US soil, or that we (the US taxpayer) are helping them do it through the US Park Service. Here's the article..it's an old post but matches what I remember from the news at the time: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=5399

I think your level of worry depends on the bear's behavior. If it runs off when it realizes you are there..all is well. If it hangs around or tries to get a better look at you that could be an issue, as it might have had encounters with other humans that have acclimated it to human presence or worse yet has set expectations that you might have food, etc. If you see behavior that worries you give a call the local DEC office and see what they say. Also, be careful if you have the little one out with you - there's something about a full diaper that attracts bears (do a google on the attack that happened in Sullivan a few years back - I'm not trying to be morbid but it's stuff I think a new father wants to be aware of).

Article from a guy who makes his living chasing trophy bucks, asking if this has all gone too far. http://www.petersenshunting.com/2011/06/30/is-quality-deer-management-ruining-hunting/