Mr VJP

There's a video out there some where showing a deer eating a fish it finds on the bank of a stream. Never knew they would eat fish before I saw that.

I heard Neil Yuck hates machetes too. In Canada, where he's from, they believe you don't need one.

I don't know where all your anger and vindictiveness comes from, but I surely hope you can overcome that disability some day. I've lived a long and prosperous life and have been hunting and collecting fine firearms for over 40 years. I have a licensed FFL on retainer in my home state, as I've had in every state I've ever resided in. My expertise is in fine sporting arms, not military arms. I believe I've added quite a few posts on these forums regarding gun values. I don't mind responding to any questions about anything I can be of help with. But if the question comes as disrespect, I'd have to ignore it, because I won't assist a person with a lot of anger, suspicion, vulgarity, or low class. I take no pleasure in it. Not the type of person I would care to assist if they were drowning in their own vomit. In other words, I could repeat your latest acronym here. But I won't lower myself to that level. If you believe the rifle in question is not a collectible arm, so be it. No need to get psychotic over it.

Actually, he's so well known because of his political activity. I don't have cable and have not seen his show or any other reality TV, but your presumptuous tendencies are well known. BTW, I have no idea what YMMV stands for. I don't do text messages either. As a firearm collector, I'm only interested in one thing. How much do you think one of Robertson's firearms would be worth, simply because he owned it? P.S. I do like nice choppers and currently own one.

By all means, do your thing. Sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do. Been there. Done that.

We're not talking about the whole world outside of the hunting community. We're talking about the world of firearms collectors. I can assure you, they know about every famous person that ever owned a firearm. Did you know Mel Torme had a million dollar firearm collection?

What do you think a gun owned by Phil Robertson would be worth today? He's way more well known than Shockey.

Not at all. Just trying to inform the haters and doubters, who seem to have something against someone who may just be the best ambassador for hunting our sport will see in this century. Or maybe they're just jealous it won't be Ted Nugent.

It's called free wheeling. Without it, this thread would've died 2 pages ago. Anytime anyone wants to bring it back on track, feel free to do so.

Resume of a nobody..... Steven Rinella is an avid outdoorsman, writer, and television host. He is the author of The Scavenger's Guide to Haute Cuisine, American Buffalo: In Search of a Lost Icon, and the forthcoming Meat Eater: Adventures from the Life of an American Hunter. Rinella's writing has also appeared in many publications, including Outside, Field and Stream, theNew Yorker, Glamour, the New York Times, Men's Journal, Salon.com, O the Oprah Magazine, Bowhunter, and the annual anthologies Best American Travel Writing and Best Food Writing. In 2010, Rinella hosted The Wild Withinon Travel Channel. Currently, he is the host of MeatEater, on Sportsman Channel. He was born in Twin Lake, Michigan. Publications and news contributions[edit]Rinella has been a frequent contributor to Outside magazine and he is currently listed on that magazine's masthead as a contributing editor. His features, essays, and reporting have appeared in many other publication, including Field and Stream, Glamour, Men’s Journal, Outside, the New Yorker, the New York Times, Salon.com, O the Oprah Magazine, Petersen's Hunting, Fly Fisherman, Bowhunter, and the anthologies Best American Travel Writing (2003 and 2010) and Best Food Writing (2005). He has appeared a number of times on National Public Radio's All Things Considered, where he discussed his hunting adventures, and has also been interviewed about hunting on such mainstream news outlets as CNN's American Morning and the Sunday broadcast of Fox and Friends. Selected Bibliography: "A Pig Roast or Bust", New York Times "The Case for Responsible Meat-Eating", O, The Oprah Magazine "Grand Theft Cattle", Outside Magazine "Go Big Or Go Home", Outside Magazine "Photo Essay", Field and Stream "How I Fell for my Complete Opposite", Glamour "Faith and Morels", Best Life "The Brotherhood of the Very Expensive Pants", Outside "Hot Pursuit", Plenty Magazine "1,000 Miles of Nada", Outside "Locavore, Get Your Gun", New York Times "Down, Boy", Outside "If You Are What You Eat", Outside "Fungus Rising", New Yorker Awards and Nominations[edit]In 2012, MeatEater was nominated for four Sportsman Choice Awards for Best New Series, Best Host, Best Hunting Show and Best Educational Show [1] In 2011, The Wild Within was a James Beard Awards finalist for best Television Program, On Location.[2] American Buffalo won a number of awards including the Sigurd F. Olson Nature Writing Award[3] and the Pacific Northwest Booksellers Award.[4] It was also chosen by Amazon.com as a Book of the Month selection[5] and by the San Francisco Chronicle as one of the best fifty non-fiction books of 2008.[6] What makes this man different than folks like Shockey and Wadell is that he is not restricted to the world of hunting or the outdoor community. His appeal is much wider than that. There are probably more non-hunters who know who he is than hunters. That's why it appears his career is just beginning. At 41 he is further along than O'Conner was at that age, and Jack was strictly a hunting world figure. Let's see where this rifle winds up in the auction. That will give some indication of the value his ownership of a firearm adds.

Obama's supporters include those who sign the back of government checks, but have never signed the front of one.

And there you see the major flaw in your business plan.

I'll try being nicer, if you'll try being smarter.

Things are slow. Way too cold and snow is deep. November was good.

1/2 Minute of Angle "Send It!"

Often when I hear them make fun of the things I mentioned above, I simply respond by saying, "I don't think that's funny, but I can hear Satan laughing."

I 100% agree with that assessment.

Not total lack of humor so much as what they make fun of. Long established American values like God, religion, military, patriotism, hard work, hunting, gun ownership, marriage, heterosexuality, exceptionalism, white folks, fiscal restraint, legal immigration, etc., etc. They just have an agenda driving their humor.

No, they started with the war on Christmas post that followed the Christmas tree post.

Occasionally on online auction sites you will see a SxS, or even an O/U made with fully rifled barrels and open adjustable sights. Some may even be drilled for scope mounts. Most often they seem to be 20 gauge. There is a market for them but suppliers are few, so they are often sold fast, for a good price.

Personal experience and the circle of friends I associate with. There really are many different levels of American society in this century, and they do not often freely associate with each other on any regular basis. The fact remains, there are rational, intelligent, tolerant people in this land. Whether they get respect from any of the other people is the question.

Then call me nuts, because I have speculated on more than 200 fine rifles and shotguns over my lifetime and have been right about appreciation more than 90% of the time. A custom gun is not a good "investment" for the man that plans to hunt with it, as it will go down in value, at least in the short run. But if the custom features make it better suited for his hunting, it is a good value for him. Many standard firearms appreciate in value right from the start and are a better choice when figuring a good return on investment over the years. Collector firearms are a whole different world, where the value of a firearm is determined by what someone is willing to pay for it and the fact Rinella owned it does have meaning to avid collectors. Many firearms that were owned by famous people have sold for more than a million dollars. The fact that this one was owned by a soon to be famous writer and TV personality will JACK up it's value for sure. The current bid price is $3500 and the auction continues until 3/7/15. Many bidders wait until the end of an auction, so as not to push the price up higher in the early stages of the auction. If it doesn't go for more than $4500 I will be very surprised.

It looks like inserts for 12 or 16 gauge guns in the 18" length, which would be needed for good deer hunting rounds, cost $150 each. They don't have any slug shooting inserts that I see there either. I'd consider .30-30. 45-70 and even .30-40 Krag for inserts if you can use rifles in your area, but I would be concerned the accuracy would be far less than I could tolerate.

Sorry Stubby. I disagree, as I know of many, and have met many more in the past. There used to be many more as a percentage of every day American society, but as things in this land devolved, they seem to have removed themselves from the mainstream in the interest of self preservation. Let's just say rational, intelligent, tolerant people don't move in the same circles as the majority of the people in this country anymore.

Notoriety is a funny thing. Steve Rinella is quickly becoming the most well known hunter of his generation, which is far younger than most of us on here. Most hunters and shooters younger than 30 do not know who Jack O'Connor was. Rinella's written many books, has a huge fan base and has hunted all over the states. He is now starting to travel the world. Because he also promotes wild game cooking, a lot of women are fans of his as well. As far as the rifle goes, to buy a new one like it would cost about $4000 and his has had some options added to it. I'm sure it is well worth $4000 right now, but in the collector market, any attachment to anyone famous, adds to it's collector value. There is no way the buyer of this rifle will ever lose money on it in the future. It's even possible the buyer will make a great deal of money on it some years down the road. Besides, the money raised by this auction is going to a very good cause. This man is a real class act, which is very much needed in the world of hunting today.