Mr VJP

Clinton was the world's greatest liar until Obama got elected.

Dismal economy during the Reagan error? What country were you living in at the time, Russia? By the time Reagan was in office 6 years the American economy was thriving after Carter's malaise.

Not my figures. Look at the sources on the bottom of the post. After 6+ years in office, it's time to stop the blame shifting and accept the facts. Obama and the Dems have been completely impotent since day 1. Nobody forced them to take power, they begged for it. Nothing was inherited, they asked for it. They OWN it!

Why are you asking how much? Tell us how much......if you can.

Sure. Obama was totally innocent there. The GOP should just let the Dems keep going further and further into debt whenever they want to. Good idea. Did the Dems ever pass a budget under Obama? http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2014/04/10/so-close-house-rejects-obama-budget-4132-n1822516

How's this for an heirloom? Custom flinter 36 cal. squirrel rifle.

Democrats are setting records! But they aren't bragging about them.

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You need the Special Purpose barrel if you want the finish on it to match the gun. Finish is the only difference.

If I were you, I'd stick with the 870 and get a rifled barrel for it with the cantilever mount on it for the scope. You can find a used barrel for an 870 online for about $200 and that's all you would need to spend besides the scope. The 11-87 will cost the price of the gun and the barrel. I have always preferred a pump over a semi for slugs anyway. I like the reliability of a 12ga pump gun over a semi. Currently my slug gun is a Savage 210 rifled bolt gun in 3" 12 gauge with upgraded trigger, Nikon 2x7 and full camo. It is rifle accurate out to 100 yards with sabots.

I'd imagine a "liberal" rifle would have micro stamping and shoot wax bullets!

More Deflection. LOL!

Deflection! No arguments with the original post I see.

Your's is a lefty also?

The adverse condition in that place is the climb up the mountain to the top. That light weight rifle is welcome when climbing. The weather did turn to heavy rain in the late afternoon that day. The photo was taken in the lunch shack.

I think Allen West is far from being absurd. The man commands respect because he's earned it and has proven his love for this country. When he speaks, people should pay attention.

I own rifles with nice wood stocks and nice blued steel also, but I've never had a desire to own a fancy rifle. The rifle hunting conditions I see most often tend to demand a tool that will function perfectly under adverse conditions. So I prefer an arm built to be purpose oriented. Now, when it comes to shotguns, I'm the exact opposite. I love fancy shotguns like a Browning Midas Grade Superposed, B. Rizzini, J.P. Sauer, or a Merkel double. When hunting pheasant in a cut cornfield on a sunny 40 degree day, I don't have to worry about it much. I also like walnut and blued steel in a Grouse gun, but nothing fancy, as the woods demand more from it's exterior. I once looked at a Ruger Red Label in stainless synthetic for waterfowl in salt water areas, but really hated the way the gun looked and decided to stick with the full camo Mossberg 835 for that job. To me, the hunting conditions dictate the firearm I use.

Sorry Curm. Like the saying goes, "Ya can't fix stupid". LOL!

Kimber Montana 7mm-08

Not really. I mentioned it in my first post as a good reason to secede from NY.

IMO the SAFE Act is a greater threat to all citizens of NY State than fracking will ever be. I can prove beyond a doubt what will happen to you if you run afoul of that.

See, that's the thing. A good stainless/synthetic like a Kimber Montana and after the kind of abuse mentioned above, just dry it off with a rag and run the bore snake through it and it's like new with no worries for the rest of the week of hunting. Take it home, wipe it down with an oil cloth, clean the bore and action, then put it away till next season. Surely all can see how much less work that is.

A stainless steel barrel with a bead blasted matte finish is far less noticeable in the field than a highly polished blued steel barrel. It looks more like a grey branch and doesn't reflect the light.

Yeah, I saw "Bowling for Columbine" and "Fahrenheit 9/11" too.