mike rossi

Your asking the wrong person, but I doubt it. These measures may save a few lives or cost a few lives. But they arent going to stop the type of character who does these Columbine - Type Killings. Even if guns were never invented this type of criminal would find a way to kill groups of people.

http://youtu.be/Ea5Shv1Fe6s

The thing hunters in PA and NY SHOULD be focused on is Page 28 of Belo's link. That is a right - now, time sensitive issue.

Today I read some of the anti gun democrats finally did acknowledge that besides guns, video games and movies and copy catting is contributing to all this. Ya think?

I am moderate, not a right-winger, but modern day thinking isnt too swift either.

No sort of gun control would have stopped the McVieghs, Nicols, Sandy Hook, and the Columbines. It may not have even slowed them. McViegh, Nicols and even the Columbine boys made working bombs. The argument for gun control is weaker, not stronger, when addressing this type of determined criminal.

Nobody working for any goverment agencies is speaking out because President Obama wants this and it is trickling down to the governer's of states with methane deposits in shale. Even conservation organizations have kept out of it because they are aware of how the goverment has empowered these gas companies. There is much grass-roots oposition as well as university and college based opposistion, but most of the major conservation orgs are staying out of it. This is partialy because methane was promoted as clean energy and even though that has been shown to be very much not the case many conservation groups are not up to date. Obama thinks he will be remembered as the first black president but he will be equally remembered as the jackass who (permanaently) destroyed the nations water supply from West Virginia to Upstate New York for (a ten year supply) of natural gas. Ironically it was the Bush Admin. which got this thing rolling. Vice Pres. Dick Cheney had a night job as CEO of Haliburton. Good Ole Dick crafted a piece of law which exempted gas companies from complying with the clean water act. Environmentalists refer to this law as the Haliburton Loophole which is named very accuratly. The justification for the law was to protect the "trade secrets" of the gas companies so that other gas companies wont learn what chemicals each of them use to extract methane. The law pretty much tells the EPA to let the gas industry do whatever the hell they want. No Obama didnt repeal this - he "invested" trillions of dollars in clean energy - read: he gave private gas companies tax payers money while touting him self as an environmentalist. The horrors and injustices are too numerous to list but I suggest everyone explore with google searches, facebook and youtube searches. You will hear a wide range of disturbing things from people getting arrested, handcuffed, and detained, on their own wooded property, for carrying a single shot.22 rifle, to possible links to cancer and everything between.

Elmo, You have had guns pointed at you more often than most cops and members of the military.

PA signed hydrofracking gas leases on their state game lands. NY regulations will not allow drilling on lands , but they can drill horizontally under WMAs and other state lands. That storage water you speak of is going to be trucked to New Jersey for processing to remove the 600 mystery chemicals ( the Bush Administration said requiring them to disclose what they use violates their trade secrets); then the fluid will supposedly be mostly brine which will be used instead of salt for ice melt on our roads. In the summer it will be "spread on fields". Already doing this in PA and this is APPROVED in NY. Go figure...

If what Elmo says hear is true, think about the size of the impact that would have.

OK, but what about when the easy availability of guns is removed? The goverment has not been able to prevent drugs from entering and being distributed in this country for what 100 years? There will still be some guns available to criminals. Even with less guns available, criminals will use other weopons or means to kill people. Coumbine killers could have poisoned the cafeteria, hell they made bombs... Gun opponents are no less irrational than gun advocates when they dont offer a plan A.G. (after guns).

The proverbial "buffoon" hurts the image of shooting and hunting and I agree with you about that. But they are not the Colubines and the Jokers and the Sandy Hooks. This is an entirely different and unstudied mentality. And it must be fueled by Hollywood, and I think the fact that they choose to aquire and use guns instead of just mowing a group of people down with a car strongly suggests that it is in fact hollywood. What ever mental defect these people have it seems to be encouraged by shooting scenes in movies and/or copy catting similair crimes. And what if the case for bullying is true? Remember when that women was aquited for lopping off her husband's penis because she claimed he abused her? The experts said that caused her to do that. Personally, if she went for his lungs I would find it more credible, but I am not a mental health expert... Either way, abuse is taken very seriously by society, but when gun violence is involved the focus is on the guns and other factors seem to be forgotten. With or without greater gun restrictions all the factors must be addressed.

Except it isnt rednecks going into crowded buildings and shooting people. These have been suburban, well to do kids. Then there was the recent NYC incident. A redneck is defined as an uneducated farm hand - not exactly the same backround as the Joker either... Society needs to start looking at the DNA of the people who do these things as well as the DNA of the people who bully. Make Hollywood responsible and accountable and then lets see what we get...

Farm Bill and other conservation easements pay more than gas leases and improve your property instead of ruin it. Hunting leases alone or with conservation leases also pay more and only fools think hunting is an impact. Watch this youtube video.

Here is another way to submit your comments: 30 Days of Fracking Regs today's topic is Compulsory Integration/Forced Pooling. http://www.thirtydaysoffrackingregs.com/jan05reg.php

Depends what the bill is. Antler Restrictions is a good example. There are many other examples of hunters successfully stopping or advancing bills . It doesnt always take large numbers of hunters either. Nearly every one of these bills was introduced because somebody or some organization suggested it to the sponsoring lawmaker... They did not come to fruit by the lawmaker waking up one day and deciding : "I think I will sponsor a bill for a youth season or a crossbow season or antler restrictions". As far as elections: there are several lawmakers on this list that are sponsoring antagonistic bills. Hunters who vote in their districts should ban together and vote against them in the next election. Doesnt always work because the lawmakers know their constituents - one from St. Lawerence County isnt likely to sponsor antihunting bills because a lot of hunters live and vote in his district. A lawmaker from NYC however probably has the opposite demograph and would conduct bussiness accordingly... In districts where it is grey instead of black and white - a focused vote by hunters can send a lawmaker packing...

Well, you notice that the mainstream media has not covered this. The ASPCA and the Humane Society actually own stock in a lot of corporations. They very likely own part of the media as well. Considering the number of people who contribute to them as donors, follow their "religion" if you will, and that their doctrine has been allowed in public schools - that this is a least "newsworthy", wouldnt you agree?

I should not have titled this LOL - apparently he photographed some foolish act and posted it to his facebook page. To my knowledge there is no such thing as animal cruelty to wildlife - though the antis are working on it... I trap and I run dogs but dont condone this. There is an Old Husband's Tale about the need to get "fur in a dogs mouth". I have as much experience with dogs as anybody alive and I guarantee if you hold a dog back on a leash you will increase the desire more than "getting a mouth of fur". Its a well known dog behavior principle known as leash or opposition reactivity.

Maybe it is best you remove this thread anyway. Cant disagree with the antis on this one...

Here : Tell Congress to Investigate Wildlife Services Now! Wildlife Services’ agent Jamie P. Olson sic’d his dogs on live coyotes that were captured in steel-jawed traps. Wildlife belong to all Americans; they must not be brutalized by federal employees. Tell Congress to investigate Wildlife Services and rogue agents like Jamie P. Olson. WE APOLOGIZE, ONLY UNITED STATES RESIDENTS ARE ELIGIBLE TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS ALERT, HOWEVER WE ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO SEND A POLITE EMAIL TO THE U.S. SECRETARY OF AGRICULTURE, THOMAS VILSACK. Wildlife Services is a costly, outdated, rogue agency that has no purpose in modern times. This week revealed more heinous acts committed by a Wildlife Services' agent upon our wildlife. Wildlife Services' agent Jamie P. Olson photographed himself siccing his dogs on live coyotes that were captured in steel-jawed traps. I urge you to investigate these cruel acts and determine to what extent other U.S. Department of Agriculture-Wildlife Services' agents use dogs to kill trapped wildlife. The Sacramento Bee exposed the horrible, unethical behavior by Mr. Olson on November 2, 2012. But this is not an isolated incident. As former Wildlife Services' agent Gary Strader told the Sacramento Bee, killing trapped animals with dogs "'is very common . . . It has never been addressed by the higher-ups. They know it happens on a regular basis.'" As the Bee also documented earlier this year, Wildlife Services kills tens of thousands of animals annually without accountability or oversight. The agency's war on wildlife endangers the public, their pets, and even its own agents. The death toll on our wildlife populations is unconscionable.

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ASPCA Pays Nearly $10 Million to Feld Entertainment in Racketeering Lawsuit Settlement Humane Society of the United States Still Faces Millions in Potential Damages for Alleged Role in Fraudulent RICO Scheme Washington, D.C.—Today the nonprofit Center for Consumer Freedom calls attention to the breaking news that Feld Entertainment, owner of the Ringling Bros. Circus, has reached a $9.3 million settlement with the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (ASPCA) in connection with a federal lawsuit filed by Feld under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization (RICO) Act. Feld’s litigation will continue against other animal rights defendants, including the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) and two of its attorneys, Jonathan R. Lovvorn and Kimberly D. Ockene, who could be liable for tens of millions of dollars. Feld’s lawsuit alleges that ASPCA, HSUS, Lovvorn, Ockene, and others took part in an illegal scheme to pursue fraudulent litigation against Feld that dragged through the court for years. Federal judge Emmet G. Sullivan dismissed this previous animal-rights lawsuit in late 2009 after finding that the key witness for the animal-rights plaintiffs was “essentially a paid plaintiff and fact witness who is not credible.” In his dismissal, Sullivan exposed a system by which animal-rights plaintiffs funneled at least $190,000 to this witness. Feld alleges that the Humane Society of the United States sent six payments earmarked to pay this witness through a nonprofit front group controlled by plaintiffs’ counsel. Evidence from court documents shows some of the money was paid to the nonprofit group with an HSUS check signed by CEO Wayne Pacelle. The massive $9.3 million settlement by the ASPCA indicates that HSUS and other defendants could face tens of millions in damages if they are found to have acted illegally. Feld has stated that it spent $20 million dollars defending against the failed animal-rights litigation, and the RICO Act allows for triple damages. “While HSUS has spent this holiday season raising money with tear-jerking ads featuring pet rescues, the group really ought to be asking for money to pay for their defense attorneys and shady dealings,” said CCF Executive Director Richard Berman. “This whole racketeering scheme reeks of something out of a mob drama.” According to public polling, 71 percent of Americans mistakenly believe that HSUS is a pet shelter umbrella group, and 68 percent wrongly think that HSUS spends most of its money on grants to pet shelters. A recent survey of over 1,000 HSUS donors found that the vast majority gave to the group to help pet shelters or reduce pet euthanasia, and upon learning that HSUS gives just one percent of the money it raises to pet shelters, 80 percent of these donors felt HSUS misleads people. “HSUS cynically scams pet-loving Americans into giving money based on the false impression that HSUS is an organization devoted to sheltering abused dogs and cats, when it doesn’t even run a single pet shelter,” said Berman. “Every dog gets its day—and in HSUS’s case, that day should be in federal court.” For further reading about the RICO lawsuit, go to: http://www.humanewatch.org/index.php/pages/detail/rico_lawsuit/ ####

Then you better get on the phone with each member of the assembly and senate and ask them to introduce a bill... I would write the DEC as well...

A Lot of bad New York Legislation this upcoming year and very little good. This must be addressed by YOU - dont wait for the other guy. Learn about concerning issues and then write politicians and submit public comment. A36 Farrell -- Prohibits application of pesticides in bodies of water that are used as a source of drinking water, except those used for the disinfection of drinking water A69 Thiele -- Relates to the taking of fish for commercial purposes A75 Kavanagh (MS) -- Requires employees of dealers in firearms and gunsmiths to submit to a criminal background check A87 Kavanagh (MS) -- Requires state agencies and certain covered authorities to purchase handguns from responsible suppliers A103 Gantt -- Creates a firearm proficiency requirement examination for the licensing of persons to carry or possess a firearm A152 Magee (MS) -- Establishes a non-trail snowmobile registration for snowmobiles which shall be used solely for the purpose of gaining access to hunting and fishing areas A153 Magee -- Allows certain disabled persons to fish without a license A175 Magee -- Authorizes persons under the age of fourteen to participate in special events involving snowmobiles A182 Magee (MS) -- Authorizes children 10 years of age or older to load and fire a rifle, shotgun or pistol at a shooting range while under the supervision of a qualified person A192 Kavanagh (MS) -- Relates to licensed firearms businesses and potential employees who would be authorized to possess or transfer firearms A207 Rosenthal -- Requires the audit of schools in the state to determine compliance in the instruction of humane treatment of animals A238 Rosenthal (MS) -- Includes wildlife animals as those subject to the animal cruelty provisions A239 Rosenthal (MS) -- Relates to the creation of an animal cruelty and animal fighting database A283 Ryan -- Permits hunting with crossbows in certain circumstances; makes permanent certain provisions permitting hunting with crossbows A447 Dinowitz (MS) -- Requires state campgrounds to provide a reduced fee for campsites to persons 65 or over A471 Hawley (MS) -- Requires additional 10% funding of agricultural environmental programs implemented in watersheds deemed critical to recreational fishing A517 Cusick (MS) -- Relates to requiring notice to neighboring landowners of intention to develop in wetland areas A524 Englebright -- Provides that on publicly accessible municipally owned property where trapping is allowed posted signage at entry points must inform readers that trapping is allowed S341 GALLIVAN -- Transfers control of the New York state canal system to the department of transportation S342 DIAZ -- Requires the micro-chipping of all dogs, excluding temporarily kept dogs; and creates a state registry to maintain contact information S450 AVELLA -- Requires operators of a mechanically propelled vessel to hold a boating safety certificate S495 STAVISKY -- Prohibits the construction, development or siting of hazardous wildlife attractants near airports S520 SAMPSON -- Directs the division of criminal justice services to study and report on laws, rules and regulations relating to air guns S548 GRISANTI -- Relates to the regulation of live restraint cable devices to take wildlife; authorizes regulations by the department of environmental conservation S571 GIANARIS -- Establishes a 10 day waiting period for the purchase of any firearm S572 GIANARIS -- Prohibits the purchase of more than 1 firearm during any period of 30 days S573 GIANARIS -- Requires persons possessing any firearm to hold a firearms safety certificate S574 GIANARIS -- Regulates firearms and ammunition dealers S575 GIANARIS -- Provides for universal background checks for the sale of firearms S585 GIANARIS -- Relates to the general civil penalty of the environmental conservation law S662 SAMPSON -- Establishes additional requirements for firearm license: completion of a course in firearm safety, use, maintenance, relevant laws, and first aid S704 SAMPSON -- Establishes procedure for the suspension and revocation of license to carry and possess firearm if carrying while under the influence of alcohol or drugs S712 GRISANTI -- Provides that on publicly accessible municipally owned property where trapping is allowed posted signage at entry points must inform readers that trapping is allowed S728 AVELLA -- Relates to the definition of freshwater wetlands; repealer S736 FUSCHILLO -- Authorizes the department of environmental conservation to establish certain speed limits S747 FUSCHILLO -- Relates to boating safety certificates S765 LAVALLE -- Relates to the taking of fish for commercial purposes S805 ADAMS -- Provides for the registration of firearms by the owner thereof at the county clerks office of the county where the owner resides, except in New York City S821 ADAMS -- Makes all large capacity ammunition feeding devices, regardless of date of manufacture, subject to the provisions of the penal law S927 SERRANO -- Proscribes persons, firms or corporations engaged in retail business of selling firearms from selling, delivering or transferring child operated firearms S983 LIBOUS -- Provides for the issuance of fishing and hunting licenses, free of charge, to volunteer firefighters and ambulance workers S993 LITTLE -- Authorizes an applicant for a pistol or revolver license to possess such while attending a pre-license firearms safety course S995 LITTLE -- Authorizes state residents to gather fallen timber from the floor of the state forest preserve when such timber is within 50 feet of a public highway S1005 LITTLE -- Establishes a forestry stewardship and habitat conservation credit for personal income and business franchise taxes S1008 LITTLE -- Prohibits the state from gaining any interest in forest land other than a conservation easement S1012 LITTLE -- Enacts the "Adirondack sportsmen's club preservation act" S1026 SERRANO -- Requires the office of parks, recreation and historic preservation to preserve and maintain state historic sites that are closed for more than a month S1027 SERRANO -- Authorizes the attorney general to enforce the provisions of the environmental conservation law and its rules and regulations in the name of the people of the state S1034 SERRANO -- Prohibits the possession of concealed firearms in national parks and national wildlife refuge systems S1036 SERRANO -- Relates to allowing veterans to fish for free in state parks S1038 SERRANO -- Provides senior citizens shall be entitled to use any park, recreational facility or historic site without the imposition of any fee or other charge S1039 SERRANO -- Relates to limiting, restricting or prohibiting trapping S1061 MAZIARZ -- Directs the commissioner of parks, recreation and historic preservation to establish a program of free parking for senior citizens S1065 MAZIARZ -- Relates to providing a tax credit for the purchase of gun safety equipment S1102 MAZIARZ -- Waives certain fishing and hunting fees for members of the United States armed forces in active service stationed within the state S1104 MAZIARZ -- Provides for lifetime sportsman license for honorably discharged, disabled veterans S1112 MAZIARZ -- Relates to fees charged for certain hunting, fishing and trapping licenses S1115 MAZIARZ -- Relates to exemptions from requirements for fishing licenses for members of the US armed forces who are on leave from active military duty S1136 BRESLIN -- Makes it unlawful for any person age 16 or older to knowingly possess a knife on grounds used for educational purposes S1161 BRESLIN -- Establishes a task force to assess the public health impact of firearm violence and provides for the repeal thereof