jjb4900

that could be the reason they stopped doing them.........after hearing him tell the story they decided it wasn't worth it.

admit it, you just used that as a chance to tell us you got a 14 pointer.......

I registered it online with them, never notified...........yeah, it looks like the safety may move forward when closing the bolt, I have a habit of checking it a few times while hunting. I have a few backups, just haven't shot them this year. I'm gonna call them tomorrow and make sure the safety is physically moved forward or just fails internally just to make sure...........just a major inconvenience, since the scope has to be removed in order for it to be shipped back in the original box.

guess I got notified a little late.....

try this. http://www.tcarms.com/

I just got a call from the gun shop where I bought my Venture telling me that there has been a recall..........it involves the Venture, Icon and Dimension rifles............and just in time for deer season. https://secure05.lwcdirect.com/front/frontQuestionnaire.jsp?p=tcarmsrecall.com

there's no question that some people love confrontation.....no matter what side of the fence they're on.

anybody who hunted the Catskills back in the day when there was a hunter behind every tree, can tell you the odds of getting hit by a stray bullet from a rifle are pretty slim............some days it sounded like a war zone.

It's amazing that even full time residents have major trespasser problems.............I hate to think what goes on at property that only has part time residents. There is no doubt that certain people know who's around and who's not, and take full advantage of it.

I was just saying why it's done............not really approving of how it's done.

it's DEC's busy time of year to catch violator's, unfortunately it's at an inconvenience to many. I don't see it as any different than increased patrols around certain holidays, the big "clickit or ticket" seatbelt crackdown that happens every year and now the targeting of cell phone users..........just another busy time of year to grab some revenue for the state............I don't see it as targeting hunters, more of targeting the" flavor of the month" to make some money.

is it possible to keep something that's dead healthy? I was always under the impression that once something dies, all life functions cease.

thanks for your useless contribution.........I'm sure it's appreciated.

you should proofread before you post.........either way, I think your credibility is shot here, best to stop posting on this subject.

As Bubba said, the majority of hunting accidents/shootings occur between members of the same hunting party and occur at close range.............the incidents of people being shot by long range shots gone wrong are far and few between...either way, be aware of what lies behind your intended target.

If you've done nothing wrong, I don't see the point in giving them a hard time, the only one who's gonna be inconvenienced is you.....they're there getting paid anyway........if they feel they need to get a search warrant and make you sit around for hours, probably be even better, they'll more than likely get overtime and I doubt they'll go through the trouble for routine stops that won't pan out............and telling them you'll see them in court doesn't bother them either it's part of their job, as is losing cases, which believe it or not really doesn't bother most cops. Remember this, they may tell you the consequences of not complying, but they are allowed to use deception to get you to confess to something they may have not found out otherwise, know your rights and be smart about when to give them a hard time and when not to.

good point.....

if they have cause to believe a violation of the ECL has occured.........I think the question many have asked is if ECO's have different rules than other agency's and the answer is yes, depending on the circumstance.

that applies to ECO's, not your local police dept....that's the point I'm making..............you're local police cannot search your shed on cause without a warrant, ECO's can.

not under all circumstances..........I posted the section from the ECL about warrantless searches, 1b.

§ 71-0525. Powers of designated departmental officers and employees and members of the state police 1. All police officers, such employees as may be designated by the commissioner, and all peace officers, when acting pursuant to their special duties, shall enforce the provisions of this chapter listed in section 71-0501 or under titles 5 through 15 inclusive and title 33 of this article, or of judgments obtained for violation thereof, and shall have, particularly, the following powers: a. To execute all warrants and search warrants issued for violation of articles 11 and 13 and titles [FN1] 9 of this article and to serve subpoenas issued for examination, investigation or trial of offenses against any of its provisions; b. To search without search warrant any boat or vehicle of any kind, any box, locker, basket, creel, crate, game bag, package or any container of any nature and the contents of any building other than a dwelling whenever they have cause to believe that any provision of this article or of any law for the protection of fish, shellfish, crustacea, wildlife, game or protected insects has been or is being violated, and to use such force as may be necessary for the purpose of examination and search; c. To search any dwelling and its contents, provided they have a search warrant to do so; d. To arrest without warrant any person committing in their presence a misdemeanor under this chapter listed in section 71-0501 or under titles 5 through 15 inclusive and title 33 of this article and to take such person immediately before a magistrate having jurisdiction for trial. 2. A peace officer, acting pursuant to his special duties or a police officer shall have the same powers as environmental conservation officers and state police under the fish and wildlife law [FN2], except the power to search without a warrant. CREDIT(S) (L.1972, c. 664, § 2. Amended L.1980, c. 843, §§ 128, 129.) [FN1] So in original. Probably should read “title.” [FN2] ECL 11-0101 et seq. and 13-0101 et se

they have more latitude when it comes to warrantless searches under certain circumstances.

as someone said earlier, ECO's have slightly different rules when it comes to warrantless searches than other law enforcement agency's.........if you get stopped at a deer check where there are other Officer's and you can be detained while they grant your request, you may just get it.........if it's just you and him in a remote location, it will be a different story.

but, there is also a change in the position/angle of the deer......that may cause a change in the angle of the arrow and how it appears.

so, you don't enjoy the "hunting" itself? I hunt just for the sake of hunting.........if I get a deer or two that's the added bonus.