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The NYS ECL allows you to humanely kill any cat hunting, killing or possessing any protected wild bird...........it used to allow you to kill dogs found pursuing deer within the Adirondack or Catskill parks, but that seems to have been amended over the years.

you just described the exact way I remember it......times have sure changed.

they can also be trained to point........

go talk to him in person, it doesn't really sound like you had a bad encounter with him........sounds like he was doing what every other person does when trying to get the ok to use private property, they offer to help out in any way possible........just because he identified himself as a LEO, doesn't mean he's going to break your balls about stuff.

only thing better is the low roar of the ATV's at the same time, as they drive directly to the bottom of their stands...............

The first step should be contacting the landowner and finding out exactly how far he is willing to go with allowing you to enforce the trespassing problem..........he may very well turn around and say it's turning into too much of a hassle and tell you to stay off as well, I've been there.

yes, it could have been caused by any of the many unintentional things that can go wrong when shooting an arrow at a deer........nothing to suggest that it was intentional. Someone stated earlier that they hope they catch the guy who did it........can you imagine if it became a crime to make a bad shot on a deer???????

talk to the landowner and explain to him what happened and find out exactly how far he is willing to let you enforce the trespassing problem. I would guess if he really doesn't care about what's going on, and is not willing to give you the authority to enforce it, you're gonna have to live with it...........I belonged to a hunting club that had a lease for 25 plus years, lost it when one of the members went a little to far confronting a person he found on the property, turned out to be the property owner's cousin who had permission to be there (we only had exclusive rights to bird hunting).

Coyotes or Coydogs? The large canid which resides in New York is a true species; they are not a hybrid. The proper name is the Eastern Coyote, Canis latrans. Coyotes and dogs theoretically can interbreed to produce what is called a 'coydog'. However, these crossbreeds have a reproductive cycle of dogs, not coyotes, and will give birth at times of the year when the pups cannot possibly survive (i.e., January). In addition, there are behavioral differences between dogs and coyotes which prevent crossbreeding from occurring. Coyotes want to mate with other coyotes and not with dogs. Coyotes are actually more likely to prey upon a domestic dog instead of mating with it. It is in this manner that dog genes are prevented from entering the gene pool of true coyotes, maintaining the two separate species. Coydogs occurred at the leading edge of coyote range expansion during the 1950 to early 1970's. The occurrence of a coydog would be an extremely rare event in New York today.................................I got this off DEC's website.

I've never been much of a believer in the existence of the "Coy-Dog"............to believe that, you would also have to believe that a stray dog would be welcome to join up and live with a pack of Coyotes. I would think Coyote's would kill and eat a dog before they would even consider breeding with it.

I agree, make it sound like you're concerned about the safety of the dogs when speaking to the owner.

I wasn't being serious......but, it does seem like bad luck to have your deer dead and hanging before you actually have your hands on it..........

any thread that starts out with "Deer down", "Hit a good one", "Big Buck down", or any of the other classics, that isn't accompanied with a photo or a confirmed recovery, should be immediately deleted..................

I was a member of Deer Search for a few years, the main reason I gave it up was because of some of the crap I got from people when I couldn't or wouldn't come out............

neighboring houses is an important consideration to any land purchase, we have five acres that is a well used travel route that would produce deer every year.........when we first bought, the neighbors on each side were great and allowed us to shoot even if we were within the 500' buffer zone, and our property is such that no matter were we hunted we were within 500' feet of their houses.........fast forward a few years, and one of them sold out to a not so nice person, now we can't even hunt our property because of him.......so, make sure whatever you buy you have enough distance that you don't have to worry about that.

he would have needed to have taken the course to be able to hunt with a bow during the regular season....... Question: Is it legal to use a bow or muzzleloader during the regular northern zone "rifle" season or southern zone "shotgun" season? Answer: You may use a bow or muzzleloader during the regular big game season. However, if using a bow, you must have completed the bowhunter training course and carry with you during the hunt either a valid bow stamp or the bowhunter training course certificate.

most of the information out there points to them being illegal in NY, due to the fact that the blades don't fold forward when you try to remove them from an animal, thus creating a "barb".........

http://www.born-to-track.com/book/order-info.htm these books were written by the guy who started Deer Search, the second one is better for hunters who don't have tracking dogs. http://born-to-track.com/ the second link is for the website of the guy who wrote the books and was instrumental in starting Deer Search.

don't use the word "only" when describing a deer you're proud to have taken, it makes it sound like you're apologizing for something..........you did good, congratulations on a job well done!

blood trails can be very deceiving ...........either way go out and give it all you have.

most guys never thought of that...thanks.

good story, but now I need a nap..........

yes, tell her to stop buying the ground stuff.

But back to the original topic, down here on L.I., deer checks seem to be just that, deer checks.......I have never had a ECO ask to see my gun or bow, ask to search my vehicle or look for anything to screw with me about, most of the interaction is with Biologists.