Four Season Whitetail's

Who are we to say what someones accomplishment is? The fence thing you say? People on this very site have said they have shot and killed pigs behind wire and in their next sentence said they would not do the same with a whitetail. The pig was fun to kill but kill any deer behind the same wire for any reason and its unethical and not fair chase and blah,blah,blah. That crap has gone on forever. Its always been the animal in reality. You never would hear a word from hunters if it was only pigs or yotes shot at these places. If the op pic was a truck load of deer you would have all non hunters up in arms and even a few hunters up in arms. If piled the way they were!!. Ride down the thruway from Letchworth to Watertown with 11 deer,with a couple 120.s and a couple fawns in the mix laid out on a trailer with a four wheeler and see how many thumbs up you get from the trucks with a deer sticker in the back window. But really watch how many..if looks could kill..you get from those that dont.

Really that is old news when it comes to that test.. Worked very well but you see the USDA will not accept that test because its only been proving itself the be up to 85% right. Now mind you are TB testing is only 65% accurate and that number is fine with them and thats what we go by. We are now paying for a nasal test that is proving to be a bit better than 85% so we will see how it comes out. Cant wait to take this bullet out of the agenda pushers hands and then it will be down to one thing. Peoples Choice!

There is only one animal hunters care about and 99% of non hunters would probably say the same. Most any other animal except the whitetail can be hunted and treated with very little respect or care of life. Hunt a deer in one spot and its not fair chase and unethical..Hunt a pig in the same exact spot and it fun and done..Just for meat. What a joke that is...And that comes from hunters, not tree lovers!

LOL..So true. Dont you know about the Bambi syndrome? You see if its a cute little deer it is held at a higher level then a yote pup or any other animal. They must be respected and cherished. That is right up to the point that THEY get to kill them. Any other animal can be shot or treated in any manner with little fanfare but the whitetail deer, now that animal has to get the respect they deserve, untill that hunter kills it. Then its ok...Can you say hypocrite?

All animals on every farm in every state has to be TB tested every 3 years. Whole herd tests on top of every death of any animal,over 12 months of age has to be CWD tested. Hence we find any problems with deer before most any state because we test all deer, not .005% of the herd like all states. A few states like maybe 3.Illinois is the biggest one to find a problem in the wild herd yet after like 10 years i believe,never a problem behind fence.

Funny how you stick your comments in many subjects you have no knowledge about. Just like this thread. You are clueless yet you feel the urge to post. That shows but one thing!!

Piles of red tape and very expensive to complete. I can say that the animals that went were 100% vet checked and givin the green light to load. Our animals are all wormed 4 times a year through the feed and shots. Cant say brain worm has ever been an issue in our industry. Seriously!

Big shocker there. Shows that maybe you should not reply to a subject that you have no knowledge about.

Ya think there will be some great guns buys after a bunch of felonies are logged?. You can bet they will just be itching to nab and showcase the charges.

Maybe you should ask those involved. Got the number?

LOL...Yes the same they always have,Year after Year after Year and they always will. If you kept tabs on all your hunting trips and the activity of the days you would find very few of these line up as some say. They will cycle and they will get bred regardless.

Maybe you should read what the word General in this thread heading means!! Do you also find it difficult to pass over a post? Seems the ones on here that complain the most just keep coming back to them over and over. Kinda shows ya something dont ya think??

Why would i reply to a post that means little to nothing. A few of the people that posted answers have also posted in other threads that they know very little about CWD. See the bull i spread a facts proven by science and the ones that are threatened are the ones that try to deny the facts and science.

You dont have to convince when you post the truth. Its simple. The funny part its the same 4 or 5 cowboys that complain and whine about some posts. Its also funny to watch the same one complain and whine that a few of their toys are being labeled as useless and being outlawed on another thread. Time after time and its just getting started.

Its not real complex to just skip over a post without reading and surely without adding whatever it is you think you are adding. I think???? you should be bright enough to do that. Wait till the trail cam pics start showing up. I have some great new spots i threw some cams up in. Showing g's in April...Thats what im talking about.

That has been done a number of times on a number of farms in different parts of the state. You ca feed and treat a Ny wild buck all you want and you will still get nothing close to good blood. These other animals you speak of are a biiig stretch from releasing some cervids in a place where their cousins already have a solid footing. Like i said, You can spin it any way you like and like and use all kinds of what ifs. I guess the same thing is going on with the guns now! What if we didnt have this gun and what if we didnt have that one. Do away with them except a couple that can be used for hunting. Spin is a spin and is only used for an agenda. 50 years for the sky to fall and it has not fell yet. We could only wish some of my stock escaped because you are not going to breed anything out of a doe that has 300in parents, top and bottom.

Like Uncle Ted Say's....Where have we seen this before?

Cant say i see a whitetail deer wiping out the country in any fashion but i guess it could be said in many ways. The facts are what are the % chance for that to happen. If we lived by the oh this may happen and that may happen, we would all live in a bubble for sure. Your supplement the deer the same and end up with the same is in no way going to even be close. Its all in the blood. No Chance! You say its all for profit. On our end its a business but if some states were smart( and Alabama has already done it i believe) they would take note and try and save their hunting and give hunters what they want. Would not take much to make hunting much better but they would rather run their land and animals in the ground untill there is no hunting and we will still be here. The load that went were a group from many farms and many states. My deer are a little bigger and stronger than say a Texas deer. per say. Long term will be nothing but positives. We have come along way in 50 years and the future is bright. You talk grand kids? Mine will have all the best there is but it really is a shame for many that wont. Acres getting ate up by the second for development. There will not be enough acres for sportmen in the future. But i know many that will be!

If showing facts and proving other peoples lies push my product then so be it. No different than you and many others throwing those lies around except now proof and science is showing your agenda. Sit back and enjoy. The future and science is bright so many agendas will be called out to the floor in the future. Some had to deal with it for years. Now it will be others turn to enjoy.

You keep talking non native? The last i knew they were here long before i put a fence up. The ground 6ft from the fence is the same land and the only difference in deer makeup on either side of the fence is blood. The blood on one side can make a proven better animall than on the other. Period. One side..140 inch yearling that weighs upwards of 250lbs that will fill the freezer and give ya some pretty ivory. The other side a 103lbs 4pt that will make ya a few sammiie's...Yup, same animal, different outcome! Even is a different country that have different cervid's. A different species of deer that live and grow in the same habitat would be a stretch to say non native. But of course it could be spun 8 ways to Sunday i'm sure!

Pushing facts and showing truths to what some will do and say to push their agenda? All im doing is showing the future for many. They are all truths. You cant handle it because you are part of the agenda. No Biggie!

No dis-respect givin here. You made many a posts on a few other threads about some of the negitive thoughts you had and what the problem with CWD was. One kinda voids the other. CWD can only be found in a dead animal at this point. We have a live test that will hit the world soon and Oh i so much cant wait for the day it does. The deer were not usda tested and where these deer are headed? Well i believe i would rather keep that info under wraps for now.But i will tell you this is just the first trip of many. Just another market for the deer farmer. Very big positive steps towards a huge success in the future.

Do you know anything at all about CWD?

Whats the chances they spent the money on CWD testing before handing out the freebies? Any Idea?

After everything you have said in past posts i really hope you are not serious with your question.