NonTypical
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Which location? Bohemia?
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My bad. I was had. I need to get my coffee before posting pics that I get in the middle of the night. Mods, feel free to close or delete thread. Thanks.
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I hate to open a can of worms but I saw something like this on Archery talk last month I can find the link for it if need be but that thread had it listed in either Ohio or Indiana I believe..
Do you have a link? I just did a quick search over there and couldn't find anything. Thanks.
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If that's the case, then apologize. I got the text early this am. Wasn't thinking too clearly. Now that I think about, there is no snow on the ground. Maybe it is bs.
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I got this pic from a friend of mine. Just thought I would share. It was taken in the finger lake region.
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It seems all the guys in the crossbow lines hunting 150' from someones house because their drivers license says they can will be forgiving him..... and that's half this forum
I'm glad in not part of that half. I'll never forgive him. FUAC.
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Seems to have worked? Depends on who you ask. The relatives of that little 4 year old girl that was shot and killed in their livingroom might not agree with you. And then there was the other occurrence where a rifle bullet came through the wall of a house and ripped through a mattress of a crib that had moments before been occupied by a baby. Also, I have seen a few newspaper pictures of the old mom and pop characters pointing to bullet holes in their walls. And then I am sure there are many instances where the homeowner never knew his house had been hit because the bullet didn't enter a living area.
But I will agree with the first part of your sentence. The 500' rule without any regard as to what is in the background is not very safe. There certainly is some more verbiage required on that one, not that we will ever see it.
I don't know the details of the incidents that you mentioned but I would have to guess that whoever discharged the firearms was probably much further than 500' away. Who in their right mind would shoot at a house? Only someone that shouldn't be in the woods with a gun and is going reckless no matter what the setback is.
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Didn't New Jersey reduce the setback last year? Does anyone know if it was for firearms as well as archery?
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And don't forget that determining which setback (500' or 150') is the less restrictive setback is still subject to interpretation. The size of the number does not always determine just what is more restrictive. In this case, a smaller setback could be more restrictive or less restrictive depending on who's viewpoint you are considering. If you are a homeowner, the 150' setback may very well be the more restrictive to your privacy and safety rights. It all relates to just who's ox is being gored.
Well considering it is a hunter who is paying for a license and who is also responsible for following the set rules and regulations, without a doubt it would be from a hunters viewpoint. When they pass a law that states when a homeowner, building, or dwelling can or can't do something, then obviously it would be viewed from the other perspective. As far as privacy and safety rights that you stated, 150' setback still will not allow people to trespass on your property. From a safety issue, I'm sure the regulation will state that an arrow cannot be released in the direction of the building or dwelling.
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No worries about sharp pieces being swallowed?? Not much different than chicken or pork bones?
They don't break or splinter like bones do. My dog will actually grab it and shave his teeth up and down the tines. Or he will chew on the base with his back teeth. No problems so far in almost 6 years.
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Has the cost of a lifetime license been reduced or is that the same price that it has been?
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Local laws can be more restrictive than state law, but not less restrictive. An unreasonable set back may back fire and encourage municipalities to increase their set back even more than 500 feet. Vestal, and from what is said above, Ithaca have already done this. It seems this could set unwanted precedents through out the state and has the potential to create a controversy capable of evolving into a well organized political agenda.
I don't think that will happen here on the Island. The towns are aware that there is a population problem and would like to see numbers reduced. Going to a 150' setback will help them achieve this goal.
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I give my dog a whole antler usually from a road kill. They work better than what you buy in the store because they are bigger and he can hold it and chew from different angles as opposed to what they sell in the store, cut up. Here's a pic of 2 that he's been working on. The one on the left he got last fall. The one on the right is at least 2 years old. He chews on both daily.
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Also just for the record, in all of my years hunting surburban deer, if there has ever been children playing nearby or homeowners raking leaves I have never had an opportunity to release an arrow at a deer. They will either alter their route to avoid people or wait 20-30 minutes after things quiet down being moving around anywhere near these homes. They are better at patterning us as we are them.
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I've been following this thread and I finally decided to register so that I could give my opinion. I hunt Long Island for the entire season, but I also do get upstate and hunt near Ithaca occasionally. As far as the 2 locations, they are very different from one another. Upstate I would never think of or feel the need to hunt within 500' of a dwelling. But down here on the Island is another story. Many of the deer on the Island are what you may call suburban deer. They live in residential developments that resemble a maze of homes, many of which are surrounded by 6-8' foot deer fence that has been put up by homeowners who hate the deer eating their shrubs. Many of these homes are also weekend or seasonal homes. I hunt private as well as town property that backs up to these very homes. With a 500' setback, much of these town parcels become off limits. Reducing the setback to 150' will open up many more opportunities to harvest deer without putting the public at risk. There is a deer problem here on the Island because deer thrive in a suburban environment. We need to be able to hunt them in a surburban environment as well. As far as a deer dying on someone's lawn, odds are its not going to happen, especially with all of the deer fences around. They almost always run for cover, not towards someone's house. But if they do, it's a chance I'm willing to take because the population is out of control. It is a lot safer to control the population with bows rather than with sharpshooters and silencers hunting over bait.
Quick story. Several years ago hunting on the Island, a friend of mine hade a marginal hit. While tracking, it did cut across one backyard. We decided it would be best if we knocked on the door to get permission to track. An older gentleman answered the door with a WWII veteran hat. We didn't know what to expect as he intently asked us several questions. Finally he raised his hand and gave us a salute and said "Carry on. You are doing the community a service." We did find that deer. But after that night we did realize that even though there are a lot of tree huggers, there are even more that are sick of the deer or truly realize that it is over populated and needs to be brought under control. Hopefully this reduction in the setback will happen.
whats the largest deer or bear
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Buck in my avatar was a perfect 10. Scored 155, net 152. I've also taken several 11 pointers. The heaviest whitetail that I have taken dressed out at 205 lbs. He was a giant nontypical with a busted up rack. I have not entered any of my deer. All taken with the bow.