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Bet you it's the same place...lol. Seen so many good bucks in broad daylight on that property driving by it was crazy.

LOL, we can't have fun? Someone tell a lawyer joke!

Most of the lawyers here are the yuppie downstate type. Only know one who isn't...

I heard there is someone off of Attridge like that...always see deer and it's posted to the hilt with no hunting signs. I had to drive that road to go to college each day, and I cursed the owner every time I nearly died from deer running into the road.

Dunstan...not Dunston. What will planting them on the edges of a non-secluded field entice? Chestnuts should be treated like acorns, apples, etc. as a special treat/draw. If they are on the edge, are bucks going to visit it in daylight with regularity? Maybe, but I doubt it.

I bet lawyers are the #1 profession by volume on this site. No joke. Doesn't all the whining reflect it? LOL.

April Fools...?

Look at all of Paula's leg humpers now. I bet she's gotten PMs on it...can I hunt the birds, too? I'm just around the corner! Sheesh.

Yeah, after the first pic series - a zero second delay in the Black 60 will likely mean an 8-10 real life delay once all of the "processes" are completed to where it can again take a pic after the first triggering - whether that be 1, 2, or 3 pics. So, say 3 pics and 15 second delays...deer...pic, pic, pic in the 1.5 seconds total, then about 15 seconds plus write time, it's ready to go again. Set it on 15 seconds and try it out. A 16gb card is going to hold 12-15k photos and probably more...you ever get 10k photos on a card pull? That's why I never bothered to buy 16gb, lol.

HBD!

Usually 10 or 15 seconds. Alot of people are down to zero second delays and they are having it work out to about 8-10 seconds in real life delay. You have to account for the card writing time in addition to the time out. Don't forget that a re-arm means the next triggering needs to detect a change in the movement/heat signature...so you could have an animal in front of the cam the whole time (after the initial pic sequence) and then not have it take a pic until it is nearly out of the frame...it has to detect the change from the "norm" and the norm with a, for example, deer in front of it, will need to sense deer (norm), no deer, deer, take pic. Hopefully that makes sense.

Mange!

I use the quaker boy mini foam. Small palate here too. Great calls!

I see antler growth while other bucks still have racks.

The guy on the left is hunting 60 acres behind my house - he's one guy of many on that parcel. I can hunt that too, but there's at least 5 guys with stands there. I walked it this week, back where my cam was, and I counted 10 stands outside of the two I hung. There's about 10 acres out of that 60 that can hold a stand, the rest are ag field. The 10 acres are pretty much one low spot and hedge row. One of the yahoos who hunts here hung a stand within 500' of my house and two other houses. I found it this past week and I am debating on what to do. The guy owns a very well-known hunting store in town. And, I'm almost out of patience with him pulling that. I'm seriously thinking about letting the guy go at it next season and call it in rather than talking to him - even if it costs me access to that parcel going foward. I'd much rather see him get a ticket - I don't care if that makes me a dbag. That dude KNOWS the rules since he's owned a hunting/sportsmans shop for 20+ years. The ones across the stree probably are on 140 or so, but the owner has others who hunt that too. I bet I have in bowhunting alone about 20 hunters per sq. mile around me.

This is 8H and a slow weeknight evening. Weekend doubles that.

I see tons of hunting pressure. Tons. This is me standing at the end of my driveway and snapping a pic at THE END OF MY FREAKING DRIVEWAY ON OCT 19TH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edit...nevermind its in the story.

Oh the internetz...dates back to Sept 2005... Albany -- A flaw in the DEC Automated Licensing System (DECALS) is costing some hunters their chance at obtaining a second Deer Management Permit (DMP) for the upcoming season. The problem stems from an oversight that lets hunters apply for DMPs in areas where they have no chance of getting the permit. Forty-three Wildlife Management Units (WMU) in seven of the nine DEC regions are classified as having no second DMPs available for the 2005 deer season. John O'Pezio, the lead biologist for the Big Game Section of the DEC and the Division of Fish and Wildlife's representative on the DECALS team, admits "the constraint in the {DECALS} system is less than ideal, but one we hope to fix in the future." He attributes the error to the DECALS allowing only one classification for a WMU. "The current system does not give us a second option to close a WMU to application for a DMP. Either it is open on both first and second permit selection, or it's closed altogether," said O'Pezio. O'Pezio conceded that hunters from across the state have already been affected, and that more will be as license sales progress. Niles Hickey of Caledonia, Livingston County, and a longtime hunter in WMU 9P, applied for his second DMP for that unit which, unknowingly to him, is one of the 43 that do not have second DMPs available for 2005. Hickey was subsequently turned down, and found out about the DECALS flaw just after application. He feels that the DEC is acting too slowly on a problem that should have been apparent from the beginning. "The state shouldn't lead on hunters in this sort of fashion. We pay good money for our licenses, and it gives the sport a black eye to find out hunters threw away their tags (choices) after the fact," said Hickey. In addition to the system error, Hickey believes the slow action by the state in addressing the problem is further evidence that the DEC is not handling the management of New York's deer herd efficiently. "During the off-season, both hunters and the DEC agreed that DMP numbers needed to be reduced, yet we still see farms being handed nuisance or DMAP (Deer Management Assistant Program) permits with little scrutiny," said Hickey. "Add that in with the problem in DECALS, and you've got many concerned hunters who feel like they've been burned one too many times." In light of the DECALS flaw, the DEC has sent out temporary corrective measures to outlets where licenses can be purchased. They believe this to be the best possible option available right now, according to O'Pezio. "Agents and clerks in stores and the phone center have been sent notices that ask them to read the list of closed Wildlife Management Units in order to prevent a hunter from applying for areas that have a zero probability," O'Pezio said. "On top of that, we have been monitoring our online sales to alert hunters prior to application for DMPs." Despite the best efforts of the DEC to limit hunters from losing their chance at a second Deer Management Permit, O'Pezio acknowledges implementation in the field is tough. "Unfortunately, there will be hunters who apply through DECALS for zero probability units as their second DMP selection; the issue could affect a large number of our hunters for 2005," he said. Currently, there is no information available that shows exactly how many hunters have applied for zero probability units in the past, or so far for this season's licenses. Hunters who do apply for DMPs in zero chance units are out of luck when it comes to re-applying for a different area. "Once a hunter makes their selections, they have no recourse from that point forward," O'Pezio said. Even with the corrective actions, O'Pezio feels there is a certain level of responsibility which the hunter has to assume when applying for DMPs. "The probabilities of Deer Management Permits vary from year to year, and even more so this season. We send out booklets that inform hunters of the odds for each unit before licenses go on sale, and they need to look at the chances for selection," he said. When asked for a timeline on the correction of the problem, O'Pezio said "the development of DECALS has progressed a bit slower than we have liked, forcing us to put off some enhancements of the system to complete it. There is no question that the issue is high on our radar. I wish I could tell you it will be fixed by next year, but we really do not know at this point."

That dates back to 2005 or 6....not even sure I could find it online any longer, but I can dig around.Don't believe me or something? I speak the truth, lol. Worst part is, it's never been fixed, addressed, or looked at. Their hands are tied to a stupidly large contract for DECALS and have no money or resources to do anything about it.

They have as good of a handle as they can given the situation. I can pretty much gurantee they'd blow up DECALS if they could...but it is not happening anytime soon. They literally have almost no control over the data integrity - it's done by Verizon and the company contracted to create and manage it in the SW part of the country. Outsourcing it was a big mistake in this instance because the project was poorly managed from the get-go and now there is no money or resources to fix it or redevelop.

You have all summer to do yard work...lol. You should be out scouting now...it is your bday after all...I think your boss at home would understand!

I think the diner and gas station observation is slowly becoming less important from an anecdotal POV. Sure there are still bumpkins out there, but the last 10 or so years have been heavy on the scent control movement and also the reduction in large organized deer drives based on smaller parcel size and access. 10-15 years ago, we would all meet at the diner, gas up, and do a drive, wearing our hunting gear the whole time. Not so much today.

HBD!

It's not a DEC system...its DECALS, which is owned/created/ran by a company based out of Arizona or some state in the SW. It's also the same system that lets people put in to draw DMPs in units where there are none available and numerous other flaws that cannot be fixed in the current environment. DEC contracts for that system, and they will outright tell you it is not accurate and it's pretty much a "run what you brung" because of the amount of money, development, etc. put into it. In fact, many of the DEC personnel I spoke with about DECALS when the DMP app flaw came to light (I broke the story), I had more regional and central people tell me things about that system that I couldn't print. They pretty much have nil control over it and it's poorly ran/contracted. When the DEC states this: "License sales figures provide a good but not exact reflection of deer hunter numbers." You know they have issues with data integrity when they preface numbers with such a statement. Face it the DEC and the QDMA's numbers are equally poorly contrived. Valuing one over the other when the one you prefer is even prefaced by the agency dissementating it saying the above is just a recipe for being led astray. Would you be comfortable with your bank saying: "Bank account statements provide a good but not exact reflection of money in the account." "Tax returns provide a good but not exact reflection on what is owed or refunded." "Medical test results provide a good but not exact reflection on whether the disease is present." Just think about that for a second, lol.