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I have a business connection at Covert, so I no longer buy from retailers. A good retailer with them on clearance would be Wing Supply, Custom1. etc. The 12s are EXTREMELY scarce because they were good cams and people scooped them up. The 13s have HD video and sound, hence the pricing - BUT, the MSRP is less than what the 12s were at full price. Custom1enterprise has them for $150 or so shipped. The Red40 is the same cam but with red blob IR and is a bit cheaper. Slightly better night shots with the Red 40, but your trading for the invisible flash for visible flash.

I like turtles.

I got a small handgun crosman bb gun pretty young and then shot a .22 early on. Living in Virginia Beach, shooting rifles wasn't all that easy, but my Dad took me any chance we could and when we came up to visit here - I literally would burn through 500 blocks of .22 in a day. Still remember my first real gun at 12 years old - a 12 gauge 500...still remember going to buy it with my pops. Me and my pops didn't have a good relationship for many years after that due to family issues, but that trip to the store and that first day of deer season with it is burned into my memory.

People are delusional sometimes. Seems like some are so petty they cannot agree to disagree, and if the other's view is opposite or not aligned...they are wrong. Doc an I see eye to eye on about 25% of the topics that come up but even in the end we usually just agree to disagree and leave it be. Seems like some just can't do that. Goes a long way in showing character imo.

Yeah, it took 624 pics in 5 days...3 pic burst on a 15 second delay. Shocked because I must have put it in an area the does are yarding...place gets too much deer hunting pressure to be huntable for decent bucks. Didn't expect 10% of those pics numbers. Batteries that were in it were in two Spypoints before for 6 weeks...just regular off brand alkalines.

I haven't had a cam out in a long while so I put up a Black 60 in an area where turkey frequent..go figure, I get one tom and the rest of them are deer, after deer, after deer. Posting a tough one with the snow and bare ground for a cam and some close up. Cam is not set on the highest image quality...set medium at 5mp. Backdrop is 20 yards away. Notice in pics 3 and 4 - the closest deer never even makes it out of the frame by the time a second photo is snapped and that deer is on a run.

A 1 in 100 yr event shouldn't be included in normal conversation...that's hopefully an anomaly. Hopefully it's not a repeat for you in '13.

I think the point is floating over your head. It's all in conjunction...a piece to the puzzle. If you are within the buck's safe zone...then hunting over the food source is A-OK. That's the key...knowing all or most of the pieces.

Lots of snow geese lately. I never really see many of them driving around, so I take notice when I do see them. Much more than in years past.

If you are happy and comfortable with the results, then all is well!

Oy...nothing like making wet blanket statements. Sure, an electrical engineering undergrad degree earns good money...but that's a different field. And, a grad level degree in that field rarely has an ROI....most go for MBAs or the like after that. A PS degree can be worthwhile based on how it is used and what gets them in the door. I work at a $2.5B a year company ranked by Fortune that eats up PS degree holders in our Compliance department...and they sit fat and happy for a good day's work. Chances are, it's not the degree's fault...it's the people you know that is the fault.

Yeah...a good old fashioned Sandisk should be fine. I honestly have never tried it because I have never needed a 16gb, but I could probably rattle off 10+ people who have who use them a ton in the Coverts. Enough to the point I would spend money buying a 16gb because I trust them. I have used 2gb SD cards with no issues in them...I think this cam isn't one that is particularly demanding on card type. Some cams like certain brands, speeds, size. This one is accomodating.

That's insane. Do you also use a spotlight at night to jack them? How about a rifle in shotgun only areas? Or, maybe the day before the season is OK? How about that turkey on April 30th? Is that OK too? I'm all for owner rights, but when it involves something not belonging to you and instead to Joe Public, then others have a say. If I step on your property with your permission, do you get to start calling me Kunta if you so desire? Yes, masa, yo' wish sho nuff good fo me. I like ta make monee for my masa so we can have one o dem good ol fashioned meals with curnbread, graveyy and gritz. Ownership is not entitlement of everything.

Hopefully growing and killing have been happening regularly for you, then. Most people can tell me about the differences in white clover varieties, tell me about the lbs/acre of urea for a certain plot, tell me how to graft an apple tree, tell me how to TSI, but they cannot hunt themselves out of a paper bag. They have all the pretty pictures of bucks. They have a sanctuary. They have this, that, and everything in between. But, what they often don't have, is a wall with mature bucks. Now, please again, don't take that the wrong way. What I am saying is that most QDMers lose focus. I believe QDM can workwell , but it has to work in-line with hunting, if you want to both grow and kill mature bucks. I certainly don't profess to know everything or more than most...I can never get to the point I cannot learn something new. But, as time wears on, I find a lack of hunting skills development crushes the everyday QDMer. It's sad when you think about it, too, because that really is the lowest hole in the bucket. It's not trigger restraint or available food or cover. It's learning how to kill the mature buck they so badly want to grow and kill. That said, I still want a poor acorn and apple crop. Makes killing a mature buck easier in my experience.

I think the 8GB was a marketing flub...small company. Everyone who tries a 16gb card in it, has it work with no issues. I just think Marketing screwed up.

Deal was better than WS, too.

Dang, forgot you use Coverts. Someone had a smoking deal going on last week. Should have sent it your way.

What cam? Seems low for the '12 Covert line-up. Although, many of your summer pics are at night in open fields, right? If so, that may be plausible given no light metering and ir firing all the time.

Yep 12 quality alkalines will get you 20-30k photos. No need for lithiums in this cam unless you are hell bent in Jan and Feb.

There is no relationship. What you are thinking is, about the manufacturer of the cams, in China. There are a handful of Chinese manfucaturers that make cams for companies here in the U.S. Most of the U.S. hunting companies buy from multiple Chinese manufacturers year to year or even within the same year. This is where you are probably thinking along those lines. Some of the early Coverts were made by the company that made early BTC models. I believe Covert has transitioned to Uovision as the manufacturer a couple years ago - different from BTC - which I believe may still use Boly Media or one of its spinoffs. Uovision is also resourced sometimes by Uway and Scoutguard. The Uovision cams are where the rubber meets the road in my opinion. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the bigger names, like Bushnell, jump into Uovision next year. They didn't this year and it may hurt them because Covert's sales are skyrocketing right now. A few years back, Bushnell's cams wer junk - outright junk. When the Scoutguard 550 hit the scene, it changed the game...smaller, better, faster, cheaper. Bushnell knew it would lose market share fast because it hadn't invested in the new technology, as seen by their repeated use of the same design with no real significant technology development - basically, they got shown up. Next thing you know, BTC steps into the doors of Boly Media and says, guess what? We want that cam. The BTC, Covert, and SG550 were all essentially the same cam for a few years. But, the problem was, was that Bushnell pushed its weight around and started squeezing the smaller companies. They left or reduced their orders at Boly Media Company. Several engineers at Boly Media Company spun off their own comapnies with better designs, and guess what...Covert followed and Bushnell is stuck with a manufacturer that isn't really developing technology now. I suspect 2014 will see another Bushnell move, seeing as how they now own Primos. I am not sure who Primos uses in China. I suspect next year's cams will come from the same plant as the BTC, wherever that may be.

I can answer all of the questions... 1. It lists 8GB. Clear out a good 16GB card, format it, and throw it in the cam. It will work. As will a zero second delay. But - do you really need 15-20k photos to be held on a single card? I can imagine if you are using the plot watcher feature - but even at that 7500+ images on 8GB would likely fit the bill. Only other thing is if you could use bait or licks here. But, setting it on a trail or even a plot here in NY...I'd be impressed if anyone filled an 8 GB card in a couple months or even a half-year. 2. Most cams are built like that now - Either they snake the python around front to cinch, or you have the padlock design. It's sort of the way the industry is heading. Don't buy anything but a Custom1 box. It is more money, but worth it. The open door design is to play on the premise that most people tresspassing will take just the card rather than the whole cam. (IE someone not supposed to be there). 3. Settings - when you make a change, you need to select OK/save button before moving away from the function...think of it as clicking on the save button for a file or picture on your computer. So, for three pics, you move the button over and down to the pics....move it over to three photos and click ok/save. I think the reason "some" may appear to save is because the final selection before you close out may save automatically - but that is just an opinion on my part. Keep in mind, it is black flash. Don't expect the world's best night images. They should be good and useable, however. You are trading a slight image degradation for the invisibility feature. Some people want nice photos of bucks. Others want the bucks on the wall.

I don't even think International Relations is offered at Geneseo. I majored in that for some time in Undegrad before realizing that the job market at the time wasn't promising. Just curious if you visited Seton Hall/Georgetown? Some prime schools for that major. International Relations is one of the few majors where going to a defined "top dog" school is important. But, is IR really necessary if she wants to go to law school? That's a very narrow field - she may want to look into an undergrad with wider reaching possibilities should she never make it to law school or decide law school is not for her. IR is a fun field, though. I enjoyed it. UVA is a great school - very underrated by the public, but a top 20 school in nearly every academic and professional category it would apply to. One thing there isn't on this site, is a shortage of lawyers. Wayyyyyyyyy too many here for their own good.

Nothing wrong with that. Some people enjoy growing deer. I do too, but ultimately, I'm there to kill a buck. It's the one path QDMers really need to fix. I've seen too many do it all and never fill the real lowest hole in the bucket...hunting skills. Again, it's fine if you want to grow deer. But, if you practice QDM and want to kill a mature buck, you had better not lose focus. Killing them is different.

Yup - I hunt there. Does that mean I support or not support xbow use? Nope. Based on what I see of xbow there alone - I would not support it here.

You're missing the point - state owns the deer. It's not mine. I hunt way too many small parcels to ever think a deer is mine.