wildcat junkie

Reminds me a Gen George S Patton on pearl handled pistols. "Only a pimp from a cheap New Orleans whorehouse would carry a pearl-handled pistol."

I have only had 1 failure W/a Luepold. I had inadvertently shot 3" magnum slugs through my M870 Express W/the .655 turkey choke in the barrel. Recoil was horrendous & it loosened the reticle in my 1-4 x 20 VX-II. Total time for the shipping, repair & return of the scope was 7 days.

That article pertains to he seat of the U S government & land "purchased" from the states. It's right there in black & white.

I had my Luepold VX-II 3-9 XS 40 mounted on my Oberndorf Classic Mauser. I was thinking that a smaller scope would "balance" better aesthetically. I was considering a 2-7 X 28, but with some input from a forum member I began shopping the net for a good price on a Leupod VX-2 3-9 X 33 compact. The figured the low light performance of the 3-9 x 33 @ 7x would be as good or slightly better than the 2-7 x 28mm & the added optic quality of the VX-2 compared to the VX-II should make up for the slightly smalerl exit pupil @ 9 x through the 33mm objective lens compared to the 40mm objective lens of my old VX-II.. Well I'm not sure I like the look. it seems to make the barrel look longer. The all up weight as pictured is 7# 12oz so there is a small improvement in weight So opinions please. Which look more 'balanced"? 3-9 x 40 3-9 x 33

As far as I can tell from the spec's, the VX-2 & VX-3 have the same optical coatings & blackened edge lenses. The VX-3 has more features that are not important to me. If it were me I would spend the extra $100 for the VX-2 over the VX-1, but the OP wants a scope in the $200 range & the VX-1 is all most hunters will ever need. As far as Vortex? They offer nothing in warranty service over Leupold & the Vortex scopes in that price range are 100% Chinese made. I have worked with a Vortex Diamondback while helping someone at the range & the quality doesn't seem to be on a par with Luepolds in the price range. I was not impressed with the lack of positive feel for the windage/elevation "click" adjustments of the Vortex. Why buy a Chinese product when an American made product is just as good & possibly better & it has the same service reputation?

It pertains to a 10 mile square to be designated as the seat of the Federal government and lands "PURCHASED from the states. AGAIN, somebody cite LANGUAGE IN THE CONSTITUTION where it states that all lands held by the federal government must be ceded to the state upon statehood.

OP is looking for something in the $200 or less range.

If you compare the Leupolds that are priced closer to the Swarovski I think you will see less difference in clarity. That being said, the Europeans are hard to beat for optical quality.

Let's have a look at the language cited above shall we? Section 8. The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States; To borrow money on the credit of the United States; To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes; To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States; To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures; To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States; To establish post offices and post roads; To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries; To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court; To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations; To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water; To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years; To provide and maintain a navy; To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces; To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions; To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress; To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;--And To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof. Where does that particular clause specify that all lands must be ceded to the state upon the achievement of statehood? Since many here are always trumpeting the "intent" of language written in The Constitution, lets see whatbthe intent of this clause was. Annotation 43 - Article I Clause 17. District of Columbia; Federal Property SEAT OF THE GOVERNMENT The Convention was moved to provide for the creation of a site in which to locate the Capital of the Nation, completely removed from the control of any State, because of the humiliation suffered by the Continental Congress on June 21, 1783. Some eighty soldiers, unpaid and weary, marched on the Congress sitting in Philadelphia, physically threatened and verbally abused the members, and caused the Congress to flee the City when neither municipal nor state authorities would take action to protect the members. 1590 Thus, Madison noted that ''[t]he indispensable necessity of complete authority at the seat of government, carries its own evidence with it. . . . Without it, not only the public authority might be insulted and its proceedings interrupted with impunity, but a dependence of the members of the general government on the State comprehending the seat of government, for protection in the exercise of their duty, might bring on the national council an imputa tion of awe or influence, equally dishonorable to the government and dissatisfactory to the other members of the confederacy.'' 1591 The actual site was selected by compromise, Northerners accepting the Southern-favored site on the Potomac in return for Southern support for a Northern aspiration, assumption of Revolutionary War debts by the National Government. 1592 Maryland and Virginia both authorized the cession of territory 1593 and Congress accepted. 1594 Congress divided the District into two counties, Washington and Alexandria, and provided that the local laws of the two States should continue in effect. 1595 It also established a circuit court and provided for the appointment of judicial and law enforcement officials. Given that the intent of the clause was the establishment of a sovereign district for the seat of the U S government, how does that preclude the federal government owning land? But while researching this article I made some interesting discoveries regarding the "intent" of the "militia". Let's have a look at clauses 15 & 16. To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions; To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress; Seems like the "intent" of the founding fathers was for the "militia" to be "called forth by the federal government to repel insurrection". Now, please cite language in The Constitution that specifies that all land must be ceded to the state upon said state being granted statehood

The new series VX-1 will have enough low light performance to pick out antlers at distance way beyond legal shooting time & certainly for any ethical shooting light scenario. There is no difference throughout the Leupold line as far as durability or dependability. The higher priced lines offer some improvements in optics but mostly it is bells & whistles that add to the cost. If you don't need the added features, the VX-1 will serve you well.

I just mounted a 3-9x33 Compact on my Oberndorf Mauser. About the same physical size as the 2-7. Its a sweet package & I will try to post some PIX.

I don't think there has been a large scale optical lens maker for the consumer market in the US for many decades. The Japanese have been recognized as the world class optics makes for about the same period, the Germans & Austrians even longer . Contrary to popular belief the Japanese have higher labor costs than we do. They compete by maximum efficiency. The same can be said for the Germans & Austrians.

$173-$200 is the going rate (shipped) For a Leupold VX-1 3-9x40. The new series VX-1 is the same scope as the older series VX-II which sold for $299 at Cabela's a few years back. There are several vendors on E-bay selling them at that price range. Here is one example. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Leupold-VX-1-Rifle-Scope-3-9x40-Matte-Duplex-113874-/361294369847?hash=item541ed29437:g:is4AAOSwnH1WZakc Nobody has better warranty service than Leupold & you are supporting American jobs. America’s Optics AuthorityLeupold & Stevens is a fifth generation, family owned company that has been in business for 108 years and employs over 650 American workers. All Leupold Golden Ring® Riflescopes are designed, machined, assembled, and tested in Leupold’s state of the art manufacturing facility in Beaverton, Oregon, USA. Leupold uses over one million pounds of aluminum, amounting to over 100 miles of extrusion, in its facility every year and has the largest installation of Index Turning Centers West of the Mississippi River. The current average tenure of Leupold’s all-American workforce is approximately eleven years, with the longest tenured employees being on staff for over four decades. Leupold & Stevens pioneered such ubiquitous technologies as waterproof scopes, side focus parallax adjustment, compact riflescopes, and the Duplex® reticle. Each Leupold Golden Ring Riflescope model, from the least expensive Rifleman® to the industry leading VX-6 must pass Leupold’s uniquely punishing durability testing, which no other competitive scope brand or model has ever consistently passed, regardless of price or country of origin. Leupold’s Golden Ring Lifetime Guarantee is the standard by which all other customer service agreements in the sports optics industry are judged, and is the industry leader today, after over 60 years in use. Leupold uses foreign sourced components for some parts of Golden Ring products, primarily lenses. This is because at this time, there is no American manufacturer that can supply the quantity of high quality lenses that Leupold needs for its annual Golden Ring Optics production. Leupold’s lens systems are designed at Leupold, by American optical engineers, in its state-of -the-art optics lab and then procured from outside vendors who must meet stringent quality standards. Incoming parts are carefully inspected in our testing facility before they are accepted into the assembly process. Incidentally, all major optics producers worldwide acquire some or all of their glass from the same sources as Leupold. Some of these sources are located domestically, some are European, and some are Asian. Leupold has acquired its lenses this way for over 50 years. As Frederick Leupold said: The Customer is entitled to a square deal. These are the words Leupold has lived by for over a century and continues to live by today.

Not to mention lots of patience.

I'm in my "early 30s" X 2.

My wood/oil furnace burned 24/7 for years W/ no issues. The oi burner would occasional kick in when the wood fire died down. In sprinkled creosote presenter crystals when I stoked a new wood fire & always burned a HOT fire once every day (when I came home from work) to prevent creosote build up. My anual chimney inspection & cleaning wre always quick & easy with little residue in the chimney.

All the information that I have found says yes. I never shot steel through mine.

Walmart carries 3/4oz AA trap loads in 28ga. for those that don't reload. I wish they made the long side plates of the "Ringneck" W/the straight grip/splinter fore-end stock.

Please cite the language that specifies that.

It makes as much sense as banning outhouses in large cities.

t does delve into specific cases that really don't pertain directly to the dispute in Oregon but the language of the clause is pretty plain. The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States....

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/propertyclausepower.html

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Next thing you know they'll be banning outhouse in Montreal too!