Scott Walker Stays?

[adirondackbushwhack]

there the one i have to pay the most for in the way of TAXES. we have 425 teachers in our district, that is one small upstate NY town in ulster county.....we only have 14 full time cops and about 28 town highway employees. time to sharpen the ole math me friend....

So do the teachers hire themselves or does someone else do that? Don't you have anyone in charge over there that can control such things? and if ya do why aren't ya mad at them instead?

[5.9cummins]

Be carful what you wish for once the union is gone you're going to have to kiss some serious ass if you want to stay working there and even then you can be gone in a heartbeat. I've seen public employment without union protection and if you think things are corrupt now wait until you get a taste of that.

Ive worked plenty of other positions in the private sector and never had a problem. I didnt say doing the write thing was easy. I guess that is why i am considering jump ship which constitutes a cut in pay, benfits and job security.

I wont support the union and consitantly vote the opposite of what they want.

Like i said unions are half the equation politions are the other half of the problem. You got to start taking out the trash some where i dont really care if its at the top or bottom.

[Four Season Whitetail's]

From what i hear the sportsmen of wisconsin will be in better hands with this guy.

[Larry]

i do know about 7 years ago they were look for pepole to work the booths and it was 15hr. to start

[sits in trees]

And now let me give you a glimpse of public employment without unions. Every time the leadership changes from one party to another you are likely to get fired. If a politicians buddy or family member wants your job you are fired. If your boss is an A HOLE and decides he doesn't really like you for any reason (maybe you're just better at your job than he is) you are fired. You can be the boss today, a pee on tomorrow and the boss again the day after that. If you don't do what the boss says even if it is illegal you are fired and believe me the bosses will take full advantage of that, they have in the past before the unions and will do it again once they can get rid of them. So yes sometimes it's hard to get rid of dead wieght and the corrupt union heads don't want to do their jobs but without the union you might not be there to complain about things at all. Be carful what you wish for once the union is gone you're going to have to kiss some serious ass if you want to stay working there and even then you can be gone in a heartbeat. I've seen public employment without union protection and if you think things are corrupt now wait until you get a taste of that.

dude, there is such a thing as having a skill and getting paid for it and having bosses that wouldnt dare to fire you because of your skills and abilities. None union diesel mechanics and many other none union blue collar trades write their own ticket in todays real work environment...if your good you wont have to worry about being replaced by your bosses son in law...and yes you can do all this without sucking the blood out of the taxpayer. you have been a union member so long you actually believe your own BS and have a totally distorted view of just about everything...sorry but that is what your showing us with your reasoning here.

[sits in trees]

If you don't see the Dems as being a much bigger problem in this matter , then you don't know the facts Sits. don't recall saying i stand by any party. I simply pointed out the facts of where union dues (tax payer money) ends up. The overwhelming majority of political contributions go to the democratic party. They are a two headed monster that cannot survive without each other. Thats reality at this point in history, but i do believe there is a chance that over time, if union members are given a choice of where there dues money goes, you will find this political landscape will change dramatically. I do believe that there are a great many union members that do not support the socialist labor movement parties agenda and are much more conservative then their unions collective voice shows. Here is some more reality. The unions have two choices. They can fight tooth and nail to keep riding the gravy train that they have been on if they want but the problem is there is no more money to suck dry. The train has reached the station. So they can give a little now in the form of contributions to their benifits or they can run the risk of not having a job at all when Illinois, Calif. and NY go bankrupt.

Dave thats your opinion and beleive it or not just as many people will argue that republicons are the bigger problem, just the way the GOV wants it. believers right to the bitter end, lol...

[adirondackbushwhack]

dude, there is such a thing as having a skill and getting paid for it and having bosses that wouldnt dare to fire you because of your skills and abilities. None union diesel mechanics and many other none union blue collar trades write their own ticket in todays real work environment...if your good you wont have to worry about being replaced by your bosses son in law...and yes you can do all this without sucking the blood out of the taxpayer. you have been a union member so long you actually believe your own BS and have a totally distorted view of just about everything...sorry but that is what your showing us with your reasoning here.

Well son if ya believe that your skill alone will retain your job for ya withut unions in the public secter jobs good luck to ya. Don't care to discuss with ya anymore there tough guy your a bit too rude with your BS.

Edited June 11, 2012 by adirondackbushwhack

[sits in trees]

Well son if ya believe that your skill alone will retain your job for ya withut unions in the public secter jobs good luck to ya. Don't care to discuss with ya anymore there tough guy your a bit too rude with your BS.

well Pops my skill has provided nicely for me and my family for well over 20 years now. you see you just cant understand that someone with a viable trade will always have a job and yea even if he is replaced by a bosses son in law he can go and get another job, and if he so chooses he can get another job even in another state. Unlike teachers who once laid off find themselves rather useless in the real world.

A real job is a skill an individual can carry with him anywhere and when his skill is put to work it creates profit for the worker himself or the company that employs him?

I come from a long line of skilled blue collar tradesman who have always worked and done very well in life. Many in our fields eventually own their own FOR PROFIT businesses.

So just see how well that union protects you when you are no longer needed or in reality are no longer able to be payed for by the public. Unions will self destruct and the people will shake them off like a bad case of the fleas eventually..

Edited June 11, 2012 by sits in trees