Last second help

[beachpeaz]

i have been shooting fantastic groups with my field tips all summer. My Grim Reaper broad heads come with a fake broad head to practice with. Shot that several times and hit in the same group as my field tips. I was ready to roll on Monday. For the hell of it, I whipped out the real broadhead and shot it and it hit WAY high and left. Thought it was me so I kept shooting and same thing from all yards. What the hell would cause your field tip and practice broadhead hit perfect and your real one not be close?? I am bewildered now and have one day to figure this out. I could resight my bow, but how would you practice then cuz my field tips wouldn't be close???. Ughhhh

Edited September 30, 2012 by beachpeaz

[burmjohn]

Because even through that practice broadhead is close, its not the same thing. Re-adjust everything for those broadheads ASAP

[Doewhacker]

Assuming nothing else has changed in your set up like peep moving or something being loose you will need to move your rest. Move it to the right and up a tiny bit.

[Doewhacker]

Just saw you had a thread on peeps moving, there's your problem I bet. Move it up a hair and see if it corrects your issue.

[beachpeaz]

  On 9/30/2012 at 12:19 AM, Doewhacker said:

Just saw you had a thread on peeps moving, there's your problem I bet. Move it up a hair and see if it corrects your issue.

Not my peep. Marked it. it hasn't moved. Also, field tips are dead on where I sighted them. When my peep has moved, my field tips were off.

[Skillet]

Are you shooting the real broadhead on the same shaft as the dummy? If not, maybe that arrow is bad.

[beachpeaz]

  On 9/30/2012 at 12:10 AM, burmjohn said:

Because even through that practice broadhead is close, its not the same thing. Re-adjust everything for those broadheads ASAP

There supposed to be identical. I called grim reaper and they also claimed they should shoot identical. I suppose they could be different, but I am talking 10" at just 25 yards. That is a ton of difference.

[beachpeaz]

  On 9/30/2012 at 12:24 AM, Skillet said:

Are you shooting the real broadhead on the same shaft as the dummy? If not, maybe that arrow is bad.

When I took the dummy off and put my broadhead on, I didn't mark which one. That is a good suggestion. I didn't shoot all 3 arrows with broadheads. Just pulled 1 and did the shoot and retreive routine because I didn't feel like resharpeneing all 3 broadheads. I will shoot all 3 tomorrow and see if they pattern.

[beachpeaz]

  On 9/30/2012 at 12:15 AM, Doewhacker said:

Assuming nothing else has changed in your set up like peep moving or something being loose you will need to move your rest. Move it to the right and up a tiny bit.

You mean to the right and DOWN correct?

[Skillet]

  On 9/30/2012 at 12:27 AM, beachpeaz said:

When I took the dummy off and put my broadhead on, I didn't mark which one. That is a good suggestion. I didn't shoot all 3 arrows with broadheads. Just pulled 1 and did the shoot and retreive routine because I didn't feel like resharpeneing all 3 broadheads. I will shoot all 3 tomorrow and see if they pattern.

It sucks to have to re-sharpen, but you've probably got a good idea. It should make it clear to you if that is a bad arrow, or if the broadhead you shot today has some kind of defect. I hope you get it figured out. Let us know.

[Skillet]

Before you try all 3 broadheads, why don't you try the broadhead from today, on all 3 shafts. If it's the shaft, you'll be able to tell without having to dull the rest of your heads.

[Doewhacker]

  On 9/30/2012 at 12:27 AM, beachpeaz said:

You mean to the right and DOWN correct?

No the up and down movements are opposite of what you think. Do not worry where your sights are just make sure your field points and broad heads are grouping together. It goes quick with a minor adjustment.

[Doewhacker]

And obviously move the sights when the groups are the same.

[beachpeaz]

  On 9/30/2012 at 12:32 AM, Skillet said:

Before you try all 3 broadheads, why don't you try the broadhead from today, on all 3 shafts. If it's the shaft, you'll be able to tell without having to dull the rest of your heads.

I will try that too!! Good call.

[beachpeaz]

  On 9/30/2012 at 12:34 AM, Doewhacker said:

No the up and down movements are opposite of what you think. Do not worry where your sights are just make sure your field points and broad heads are grouping together. It goes quick with a minor adjustment.

Not on the rest they aren't. That is just for the sights.

[jr.deerslayer]

You did make sure that the real broad head didn't open in flight. Are they mechanical? If one opened it will fly like complete crap and the practice one is always closed, if I'm not mistaken.

[Doewhacker]

  On 9/30/2012 at 12:37 AM, beachpeaz said:

Not on the rest they aren't. That is just for the sights.

Haha wanna bet?

[jr.deerslayer]

You need to "follow the arrow" Shooting high and to the left... move sights up and to the left.

Edit- thought you were talking about sights not rest.

Edited September 30, 2012 by jr.deerslayer

[beachpeaz]

  On 9/30/2012 at 12:40 AM, jr.deerslayer said:

You did make sure that the real broad head didn't open in flight. Are they mechanical? If one opened it will fly like complete crap and the practice one is always closed, if I'm not mistaken.

That was my initial thought. How would you know???

[beachpeaz]

  On 9/30/2012 at 12:51 AM, jr.deerslayer said:

You need to "follow the arrow" Shooting high and to the left... move sights up and to the left.

Edit- thought you were talking about sights not rest.

Correct. We were talking about moving the rest though, not the sights.

[Doewhacker]

  On 9/30/2012 at 12:53 AM, beachpeaz said:

That was my initial thought. How would you know???

Ooo that could be a problem. I thought you used fixed blade.

[beachpeaz]

  On 9/30/2012 at 12:44 AM, Doewhacker said:

Haha wanna bet?

If I don't move my pins or my peep, then my line of sight stays exactly the same. Moving my rest in any direction would then cause the arrow to move in the SAME direction I moved the rest. Down would make my shot move down.

[beachpeaz]

  On 9/30/2012 at 12:56 AM, Doewhacker said:

Ooo that could be a problem. I thought you used fixed blade.

No, grim reapers are mechanical. The entry hole doesn't look like they are opening. They could be slightly though causing a weird flight.

Praying for nice weather tomorrow so I can spend some time getting this figured out.

[jr.deerslayer]

I'm not sure as they don't contain o-rings, I would hang a piece of paper in front of the target a few feet and see what the hole looks like. I've been reading reviews though and the advantage to them is they almost never open in flight. Its still probably worth a try.

[Doewhacker]

  On 9/30/2012 at 12:57 AM, beachpeaz said:

If I don't move my pins or my peep, then my line of sight stays exactly the same. Moving my rest in any direction would then cause the arrow to move in the SAME direction I moved the rest. Down would make my shot move down.

Never mind I'm thinking of movements for nocking points. Lol

Edited September 30, 2012 by Doewhacker