NeverSeenNorHeard Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I haven't read the entire act and apologize if this has been covered but here's my question. If I go to shoot some clays and bring a friend (non gun owner), can that friend shoot my shotgun as well, or am I in violation of the law? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 He can shoot. Under a proposed Federal law, that failed, that would have been a Felony. Common sense laws..LOL> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSeenNorHeard Posted August 30, 2014 Author Share Posted August 30, 2014 Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingNut Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Ants! What was the proposed law? Never ever heard of anything so redonculous! What does being a Gun Owner have anything to do with shooting sporting clays, sheet or using someone else's legal firearm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr VJP Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 The law would have made any firearm "transfer" without an FFL and a NICS check a felony. Giving your gun to anyone else would've been considered a "transfer" not matter what the situation involved. Give it time. It will become law sooner or later. The anti's never give up on any gun law. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingNut Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 As described, there would be no "transfer". Both parties would be sharing the same firearm one being the owner. That is the case in NY correct? How would it be possible to teach the younger generation how to shoot. Tell me if I am missing something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr VJP Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Unfortunately, only a lawyer well versed in the SAFE Act should be trusted to tell you for sure. Too much of it is subject to interpretation. Fortunately, most county Sheriffs have said they won't enforce it. The State Police seem to be going after people though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HectorBuckBuster Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 If all parts of the NY Safe Act ever get up and running you have not seen anything yet. Just wait till the background check for ammo goes into effect and there is up to a $10 background check fee on a box of ammo.So if you lose ammo or it get stolen you have to file a police report. All I can say is every hunter needs to get out and vote in Nov and vote Cuomo out. If he gets re-elected I bet the back ground check for Ammo mysteriously gets up and running, and more anti-gun laws will be passed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 If all parts of the NY Safe Act ever get up and running you have not seen anything yet. Just wait till the background check for ammo goes into effect and there is up to a $10 background check fee on a box of ammo.So if you lose ammo or it get stolen you have to file a police report. All I can say is every hunter needs to get out and vote in Nov and vote Cuomo out. If he gets re-elected I bet the back ground check for Ammo mysteriously gets up and running, and more anti-gun laws will be passed. police report? how would they know that you just didn't go to the range and shoot it? I don't believe there are any provisions for serial numbered rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HectorBuckBuster Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Culvercreek, I am not joking, there is no serial number of rounds, but if they back ground check goes into effect, they will have a list of type,caliber and amount of ammo you have bought.I have printed and read the NY Safe Act over a lot. Go to this link and then to S51 1a & 1b. http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/s2230-2013 1. (a) Any owner or other person lawfully in possession of: (I) afirearm, rifle or, shotgun who suffers the loss or theft of said weapon;(II) AMMUNITION AS WELL AS A FIREARM, RIFLE OR SHOTGUN WHO SUFFERS THELOSS OR THEFT OF SUCH AMMUNITION AS WELL AS A FIREARM, RIFLE OR SHOTGUN;OR (III) AMMUNITION AND IS A DEALER IN FIREARMS OR SELLER OF AMMUNITIONWHO SUFFERS THE LOSS OR THEFT OF SUCH AMMUNITION shall within twenty-four hours of the discovery of the loss or theft report the facts andcircumstances of the loss or theft to a police department or sheriff'soffice. ( Whenever a person reports the theft or loss of a firearm, rifle[or], shotgun OR AMMUNITION to any police department or sheriff'soffice, the officer or department receiving such report shall forwardnotice of such theft or loss to the division of state police via the NewYork Statewide Police Information Network. The notice shall containinformation in compliance with the New York Statewide Police InformationNetwork Operating Manual, including the caliber, make, model, manufac-turer's name and serial number, if any, and any other distinguishingnumber or identification mark on the weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) I understand. But do you think they believe it is like a refrigerator? That you will have it and never use it? Without an identifiable serial number they could never trace ammo back to you. Edited September 12, 2014 by Culvercreek hunt club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaeger Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Quick note. Don't know how good a friend yours is but keep in the back of your mind a person with a Felony on his record can't legally own or even possess (hold) a firearm unless they obtained a relief from disabilities certificate from the Judge. Sounds like a silly concern, but you put yourself at risk if you don't know and let someone use your guns. And a Felony on a record can come from a few non violent convictions, dwi, other driving offenses that you may not know about. Just something I run into occasionally when people ask to see or use my guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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